Sick passengers
 

As much as I like driving by myself, my wife won’t ride passenger in either of my cars. My brother gets sick when I go for spirited drives with him. A couple of my other friends won’t go either.

Is this common for most everyone?

Not "sick" but I've taken my parents or sister (one at a time of course) on errands and stuff and they absolutely hate it.

But that's because they don't drive sports cars so they're just used to the floating sofa feeling of the Camry or w/e.

Of course my dad absolutely loathes being a passenger anytime/in any car, so he's constantly reaching for the ceiling handle that our cars don't have even when I'm going the speed limit :lol:.

LOL Down here they are Soft cocks or Pussies but motion sickness:barf: is a bitch. I`m old and my mrs and I love it:thumbup:

It's your driving.

When I went through flight training years ago my pilot instructor said something that stuck with me. I was making hard banks into maneuvers. My instructor said, "It's a lot more fun to fly the way you're doing it, but on your next one try leading into the turn a little to make the transition smoother. If you ever talk a girlfriend into flying with you, she'll enjoy the ride a lot more if you smooth it out." (He was right.)

Ever since then I also make a conscious effort to drive smoothly whenever I have a passenger. Don't sling 'em around. Contrary to lessons learned from titty drifting videos, most people aren't entertained by your automotive masturbation.

^This. Put three young pups in the back, two who get motion sickness, and you learn to drive smooth real fast.



Being a passenger sucks if you're being tossed all over the place.

There are many reasons to drive smoothly rather than making dramatic moves, obviously your passenger(s) will appreciate it but radical weight transitions make it more likely that the vehicle will become unsettled and lose traction. IMO the fastest and safest way through any maneuver is to maintain traction so you can stay on the power for as long as possible. While it might be fun to slide around it's certainly not efficient and it's definitely uncomfortable for most people when they're not driving.

Not to be totally contrarian here but it also depends on your passenger...some people just get physically uncomfortable with spirited driving quicker than others.

I drive smoothly, sometimes the issue is the passenger. My wife weighs 106lbs and is 5'1". She cannot sit in the seat well, and additionally, she has a propensity towards leaning forward. Her trying to lean forward all the time through bumps and during acceleration/'braking contributes to her feeling nauseous significantly. This happens in any vehicle she rides in, and if available, she condemns herself to the back seats.

Maybe adjust the passenger seat to be more upright to stop your passengers from subconsciously trying to lean forwards (if they are). Also, be smooth if you're not being smooth, they will notice it and thank you.

Even at 20MPH on the rare occasions my wife will even get into my car:


"It's too low I am scared"
"It's too loud I am getting a headache"
"Slow down that is too fast" (remember it is 20MPH)
"That truck doesn't see us he is going to run right over the car"
"Don't turn that fast"
"Watch out for that car" (somebody is turning 6 blocks ahead of us)
"Everybody is staring at ME"


All of this is accompanied by frantic door grabs and stomps on an imaginary brake pedal every single time another car is in sight.


Mind you she has also become that little old lady driver from hell that will not do anything beyond 5 MPH under the limit, hammers on the brakes and stops if she even thinks the light may change to caution, stays at least 10 car lengths back from anybody in front of her, comes to a complete stop before turning right into a lot and will rip your head off and shit down your neck if you point out any of these actually dangerous actions to her!

My wife gets car sick and has puked in every single car I have ever owned. I've found that taking everything a bit slower and really paying attention to reducing both peak acceleration and jerk (derivative of acceleration) usually helps. Sometimes all it takes is a single mistake or somebody pulling out in front of you to set it off. Also turn up the fan or crack a window, cool airflow helps too.

This is easily the best sentence I will read all week. Thank you for that. :lol:

:lol: I don't even want to drive with my girlfriend anymore for reasons you stated @Tcoat
Mainly me getting yelled at if I mention anything.

She isn't that had, but she's a notorious late braker and signals as/after braking. She's also hard on her clutch between shifts. Giving lots of throttle and riding it more than nessesarly.
We recently bought a 2020 Impreza 5spd to replace her dying focus and I think it'll force her to smooth out her shifting due to the rev hang.

She did get nauseous once the first drive after I installed springs. It hasn't been an issue since.

My wife loves the car and brisk drives in it. In days gone by we rode all over Texas on a variety of motorcycles ranging from single cam Honda 750s, to a Norton 850 to a VFR800. She loved the bikes, but reasonably, drew the line if her toes touched the asphalt in a corner. A few years ago I had to pull into a turnout on the Tail of the Dragon to keep her from redecorating the dashboard of my BRZ.

My driving moto is in my sig, but despite that on roads like the tail of the dragon, or the "twisted sisters" in central Texas she is prone to motion sickness. I've been in small airplanes flying unusual attitudes/modest aerobatics. If I was at the controls it was never an issue, but when I was just along for the ride, I'd be green after a bit. Winding, "swoopy," roads in a car like the BRZ can have a similar effect on people, even those who have no qualms about the speed.

All this reminds me that I need to hug my wife when I get home.

She drives her Mustang like a bat out of hell, although thankfully not like a asshat leaving a Cars and Coffee. She giggled like a schoolgirl the whole time we were on the Tail of the Dragon, then insisted she get to drive it in the opposite direction when we came back a couple of days later.

Mine used to!
Give it time.

So far, no change, but she is 5 years younger than me so I suppose all things are possible.

My wife is a better driver than rider. When in my car I drive it like a Prius. It’s a lot easier that way.

And the woman is a fearless snowmobile driver. We did a tour of Yellowstone and she was something else

Every time I have a passenger I flip the MPG gauge on and try to keep it as high as I can. Helps me drive waaay more smoothly. Haven't had any complaints yet.

The first and only time I drove my mom in my car, we went over a speedbump less than 200 feet from my house. I got one wheel over and she immediately asked me to turn around and take her back. Stock suspension. Sports cars are not for everyone lol

I've never had an issue but am usually pretty mellow with passengers. It is already a pretty unpleasant ride in my car as is. I had to go pickup my brother when he was drunk once at 2 am and bombed the car through these "S" turns hard enough he hit his head on the window. He deserved it :D

My 80 year old mother loves riding in my car. She want me to go fast.

lol my 69 y/o mom hates driving with me and she's 100% jdm! too loud, too low, too harsh for her..she drives a sc430 so you can imagine the difference for her..dad puts up with it.

most importantly though my son and my gf love tagging along and they giggle every time i slide around a corner :wub: i couldnt be with someone who despised spirited driving or my 86

You gotta be careful with little kids. Their inner ears have short fuses and no alarms. My grandkids love being tossed around and hung upside down and flown around the room/yard. They'll be cackling up a storm and in an instant they'll look at you with a smile and toss lunch onto your sweatshirt. I'm going to love when they get old enough for fun in the car, but I'm putting a towel in their laps and on the dash and floor.

Give me a passenger who'll say I love this but I'm not feeling so good any day. None of this, "I'm going to be a badass and tough this out" - then :barf:.

She doesn’t mind me driving her Mazda 3, but of course the suspension is meant for people like her. So even if it is my driving, that pedestrian suspension variable reduces effects of it.

Glad to be in the company of the no company drivers.

If you know someone who is particularly susceptible to motion sickness, get him/her a Reliefband. It's better than pills because it starts working immediately. You can turn it on when you need it without having to wait to ingest a pill.

https://www.reliefband.com/

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That whole list describes my dad to a T. He'll begrudgingly ride shotgun, but is only truly comfortable when he's the one who gets to drive.

I just crush up some Dramamine tablets and mix them into the pancake batter that I make for breakfast before a trip. She just "...loves it when [I] cook for a change....".

Kind of like Morning After Pancakes but with Dramamine instead of the Plan B pill. Made with love!

3 seconds faster than fast on a 1:15 race track may not feel smooth to some, even though it is smooth. My wife does not like getting in the car with me on the track because:barf: even though I rarely have a moment

These cars are designed for driving experience. Just like space mountain in disneyworld, you're going pretty slow but it feels pretty fast.

My wife made it through a 3,000 mile road trip to Key West in my car last February without getting nauseous at all. She got nervous a few times but she never bugged out like she does around home where everything is all twisty and hilly and too hard for me not to have fun. Me, I'm the worst passenger ever though and can't handle anything other than smooth and gentle, I sit there holding onto whatever handle I can reach and have to be able to see out the windshield at all times so can't sit in the back seat.

Alone = F1 driver. With passengers = limo driver.

As the driver, we have a steering wheel in our hands. That steering wheel adds tremendous support to our bodies. Passengers don’t have that extra support. Forces that feel small and unnoticeable to us can easily toss a passenger around in their seat (front/back and left/right). If your goal is to drive like a limo-driver, you must greatly reduce the amount force you feel on your body to keep your passenger comfortable. It may feel close to zero.

I had my head down fiddling with a phone app in the passenger seat. Now that made me woozy

This very common. Like others have said you need to drive like a grandma. What’s normal to me is definitely not to my family.

It's one thing when you have your hands on the wheel making the turn. It's another for someone else to do it and you're being slung around. I don't think I would want to be my passenger the way I drive alone. When my wife is in the car, I smooth things out as much as possible. She doesn't complain as much in the 86 as she did in the old Mazdaspeed3, so there's that.

You know I actually drive slower in the 86 than I do in other cars. I think it's because the 86 feels like it's going so much faster than it is, causing passengers to be anxious and get motion sickness. Regardless if the driver is operating normally. I didnt get the sense at all that the OP is driving faster than is responsible for a public road. Hop in a lambo and 130 feels glacial, boring.

One thing I love about this car is the interior door handle. If you’ve been passenger in track it’s pretty awesome. I tried communicating that to passengers but alas, I only have fun by myself.

I've known people who actually drive with things sitting on their dashboard.


Good luck with that in any of MY cars, ever, and I'm almost 74 yo.


Both curves and turns are designed for accelerating, NOT braking.


Instruct any passengers to always look out the windshield as though they are actually driving the vehicle...if this fails to work...simply kick em out of the car at the next stop.

I like your style! So Get In Sit Down and Shut Up

Get in, sit down, shut up, hold on, and don't puke!

Agreed. Braking in a corner pulls a passenger's back away from the seat and simultaneously pushes their torso sideways. That's not good for people who suffer from motion sickness. But accelerating through a corner, even light acceleration, pushes a passenger's back into their seat and stabilizes them.

If I may add, as someone who suffers from motion sickness, I prefer sport cars with tight suspensions, like one of the twins. Its soft cars like a Blubbery-Buick that can be bad for me.

For me as a passenger anything other than smooth moves with the steering wheel make me uncomfortable. I can handle throttle and brake moves as long as they're not jerky and are similar to what I would do.