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Nurburgring Video of Subaru BRZ Coupe / Subaru FR-S / Toyota FT-86 Shows off Handling
Happy to share with our members the best video yet of the Subaru Coupe / Subaru FR-S / Toyota FT-86 getting flogged during testing on the Nurburgring.
The prototype seems to be exhibiting great handling - staying flat and showing little roll or slide through the turns. It's not easy to judge speed from a video, but it certainly seems to be carrying good speed through the turns. We also get the best listen to the prototype at full throttle yet. Be sure to watch in 1080p mode. [u2b]_bhEWaQF2CM[/u2b] |
Nice, i cant wait to see more
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Thanks for sharing it, looks great :)
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Nice, though the vid does have some crazy interlacing issues
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Very nice! :thumbsup: Thanks for posting! :happy0180:
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Lol tailgating the bimmer at the end. :>
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very cool thanks hachi
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I'm not an expert but... is it understeering?
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nice, look great through the corners
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might have been covered before, so apologies, but it's left hand drive? I thought the Japs would build it right handed first, for "their" specs.
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love the sound
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Is that normal for that much positive camber on the front outside wheel under heavy cornering? But otherwise it's looking great.
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Nice Subaru <3 and Carerra White Cayman at the end :D
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I was getting dizzy from watching the stupid video. Also, it makes me wonder how relevant the video is in terms of the final production version's handling is. For all we know, their engineers are only gathering data on how different combinations of suspension components will cause the car to perform. They could just as easily decide on a softer or firmer tuning in conjunction with marketing to come up with a package that will appeal to the widest group of potential customers. I'm pretty sure that for many of us, we'd fall outside of that category. But that's where the aftermarket will pick up from... |
Love it. Can't wait until more vids are released but this should keep me entertained for a while I guess.
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Fixed the interlacing issue
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Again, thanks Hachi!!! :bow: :bow: :bow:
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Looks nice. I wonder what the times were.
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Sahweet... You did it again Hachi. Thanks you.
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It seems to have a pretty decent exhaust sound too! I can't wait!
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I dont think anybody can wait..lol
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I wonder what the tires were.
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It looked very neutral to me, and the turn in is just like the S2K. But holy crap look at that roll resistance. Its got some massive swaybars or very stiff pre-loaded coilovers. I've never seen something that resistant to roll on a street car outside of a supercar.
I predict that if the production car has this handling package, it will get bad reviews for being to "twitchy" or something, meaning it takes more skill to drive (a la LFA). I'm very excited about it. Not to hate on anyone, but I've learned that people who comment about "does it oversteer" or "does it understear" don't know about active weight balance of a street derived sports car. All cars oversteer and all cars understeer, its about how manageable it is with what type/size of tires it has. |
my lord those tires look so dinky...
and i agree, the suspension used in the vid will probably never make it to production. i just cant see a scion being this hardcore. and before people say its a subaru, im still betting that the difference between both cars will be 95% styling only... |
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Does the car look neutral to you, Aaron? Between the tire squealing and the lines that were taken, I thought it resembled some very mild understeer. For the most part, that is probably a good thing because understeer is far more predictable than oversteer, and is much easier to correct. A car with some very mild understeer is also easier to drive fast.
The really sad thing is, good body motion control and ride comfort don't really have to be mutually exclusive -- the suspension components just have to be well-engineered and well-matched -- think monotube shocks with valving that suits the chosen (and appropriately firm) spring rates. Of course, these components cost a pretty penny, and manufacturers tend to think that people who are really interested performance would turn to the aftermarket for solutions anyway. It is kind of true, but I'd much rather drive something that is well setup right out of the box than to rip out the brand new stock suspension... Quote:
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i know the real measure is how it feels, but goodness that engine sounds like it's revving strong high in the range! can't wait to drive one.
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exactly!!!! My civic FF can oversteer without handbrake because i have bad tyres on rear wheels (even if it's not drift because of front wheel drive.... :( ) The FT, even with "only" 160 or 200 hp, can drift, it depend on the traction système (autobloc or not) |
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I got the impression he wanted to give it some beans at the end but the BMW was in the way. Anyone any thoughts on how high it will rev based on this video? Didnt sound like it was hitting high RPM to me? |
from what you may hear from the video you hear a noise from the tires will stem type tank in the corners, as if there was a bit of understeer!
The strange thing is the constant hiss of tires. at some point in the video you can feel the change and I think tipaca of an automatic .. but I may be wrong. little consideration ... the tires are too narrow |
Yeah...as the car is now I'm ready to buy...they would have to eff something serious up for me to change my mind.
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Yeah, that's some understeer.
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aside from aesthetics why would you guys want a 9.5 wide wheel on a car that pushes only 200hp N/A and a whole lot less of torque? have you driven a 240sx with SR20DET with a 9inch wide wheel? Cant handle worth shit..and turns even worse if it was all 4 corners. Suddenly having a narrow tire of 7inches will offer no performance and traction..DERP
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