HELP!! Engine Swap for 2013 Scion FRS
 

Anybody knows any cheap or reliable engines that can fit my current stock automatic transmission from my 2013 scion frs. I tried to get the dealership and corporate to help me cover the damage of rod knock but they declined me 3 times im done with this fa20 engines too many problems I have read about the early fa20 so this is just me that I cant trust any fa20 anymore

So if anyone can help me suggest a good engine swap that I can afford using my stock automatic transmission. That would help me alot something to get me from A to B.

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If you're tired of the FA20, it'll be cheaper to sell the car and get into a different platform than to swap this one. I'm not saying this to be a ****, I'm serious- There are no easy engine swaps

And your right your completely right but the thing is that is my first car that I bought with my own money and I put toooooo much money into that car I fixed the rear rear end for almost 2k it has a surround system and more and just to let it go ill hurt you know? But if I cant do nothing about it then yeah ill have no choice then to do that

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If you are truly dying to get it back, and don't want to spend the crazy money on swaps, then just buy another engine that's not a 2013. As far as I am aware, there are no stock engine problems in 2014+ years at all.

Welcome to owning a 7 year old car and all the fun that goes with it!


The vast majority of us have had trouble free experiences. You only read about the failures not the good news and that skews the perception.


Engine swaps are not cheap nor easy no matter what YouTube may look like. You don't pull one out and drop the other is with just worrying about whether the tranny will bolt on and nothing else.


Just grab a later FA20 and enjoy. Even that won't be "cheap" though.

I hear you. I'm on my 4th engine right now (Recall didn't go so well for me, and never did, and I turbo'd my car so I accept responsibility for modifying my car)

As @Tcoat said, you shouldn't have issues with the engine, honestly. Get a 2014 or 2015 with the wiring harness and get it swapped in by a shop. Save up for a while and get a nice low mileage example. If you leave it stock ( No crank pulleys or air intakes!) it should last you a long time if you really love it.
I love my car to death and would never leave this platform, as much as I've wanted to in the past two years- it'll be worth it though, there are no other cars like this one.

I was looking at my car and all that you guys see is RTV silicone where they over put alot and still didn't wanna cover the damages cuz i was out of warranty....https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...aeb2388117.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...1ab6bfe1e8.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...27cb3433b0.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...48449aa27b.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...e01792ee71.jpg

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Thanks for asking the question and thanks all for the sensible responses. I'm in the same boat and dealing with this right now also.

Are u still under warranty?

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To be honest, that is not a lot of excess sealant. You are squeezing two machined flat surfaces together, where do you think it is supposed to go? There is a grove on the inside of the cover for it, but if any gets on the mating lip, it just gets pushed out. It looks to me like most of the issue is lack of care when they scrapped the old sealant off.

That isn't a lot of visible excess on the outside but if that is his oil pickup tube I would be raising hell to get them to cover the new engine, that is BS. How do they propose all that RTV got on the pickup tube if it wasn't due to the repair?

Nope, it blew 1 month and 4k past the 12 month warranty on the recall work. The dealer passed me off to SOA who told me that the car is already past its expected service life (138k miles) so they would have no interest in helping me to solve the problem.

Can i request some pictures to see if I can try to help u out!

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I think this link to the video with sound should work https://photos.app.goo.gl/fP2SP1wW4YebEyTp9

Yeah that sounds exactly like mine. Did they inspect it like did they took the oil pan and the oil tube out?

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I don't see the need to pay to have it towed to the dealer and then pay them to pull things apart only to tell me it's fucked. Then I can't even start it to put it on a trailer and have to pay to have it towed home. Covid induced lack of work has left me a little short of funds to throw at it so I'm going to hold out for a good used motor and save the towing $$ for when I have it brought to a friends engine shop to replace the motor.

Ok because my situation is exactly the same but the reason they declined me was cuz of that what u said and cuz it had multiple owners like more then 5 so they don't know if they made any modifications to the engine so im fucked lol. But are u the only owner of the car?

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There was one before me, he had the car for a bit over a year and did 14k miles. I bought it CPO from the dealer, same dealer he bought it and had it maintained at. The previous owner shouldn't ever enter the discussion I'm having with them because I've done 125k with the car and been pretty good about the maintenance.

Is the car salvage??? Well they shouldn't declined u, what I would do is request a explanation on why they declined your service is not because of the warranty but because when they do the recall they scratch off the old rtv silicone off and when they put everything back together some of the old rtv silicone falls down in the oil tube and it gets cloth and it makes the engine starving for oil and causes engine damage

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No, not salvage. I told you it was purchased CPO from the original dealer. It was denied because it was 13 months and 16k miles and the recall warranty is for 12 months and 12k miles. They're being sticklers as is their right based on the terms. I can't afford to lawyer up and sue them so I'm out whatever the cost is to replace it. Pretty simple, I'm fucked. There is a small chance that I would take it to small claims court because in NY it's up to $10k in damages so if I get annoyed enough I might.