Plastic Engine Cover Question
 

Just wondering: I haven't seen any pictures to verify this, but are the newer cars with the red manifolds no longer shipping with the plastic
TOYOTA/D-4S/BOXER/SUBARU engine cover?

Nope, they have an aluminum intake manifold now. You couldn't find this? There has to be more...

Yes that's correct. They don't have the plastic covers no more.


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My 2020 didn't have one.

Yes, I saw that picture. I was just wanting to verify that the plastic cover is no longer installed in the stock engines. For all I know, someone could have removed the cover to snap that picture.

Do you own one of the newer red manifold cars and can confirm this?

Thanks everyone, appreciate the quick replies.

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2019 86. And no I did remove any plastic cover.


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I see. Nope, I have a 2015 with the plastic manifold but have seen many 2017 and newer with the red one. No plastic cover on any of them as others have stated.

Pretty sure the automatic 2017+ still comes with the plastic intake and d4s cover

You're absolutely correct. I forgot about that.

So to summarize:

N. America, AUS, JPN Models
2017 and up, manual transmission only, red aluminum intake = plastic engine cover delete
All other models = plastic engine cover

EU Models
2013 and up, all models = plastic engine cover.
(Note: No red aluminum intakes on any EU models)

It's not a secret, been that way for three years.

Never stated it was a secret. I just searched and couldn't find anywhere in this forum that verified the information I was looking for.

Now it is, and now I know.

Didn't mean to be rude, sorry.

It did sound a bit rude, but I'm no snowflake so I let it slide. Your apology, although not entirely necessary, is accepted.

If you want more detail, you are right for the US models.
For EU , the manifold change did not happen even in manual models.

The manifold change ( not the plastic cover on top) plus some other internal changes led to an increase of 5BHP and 5NM on the new manuals (17 onwards).
Google up changes to 2017 MY, you will find a load more changes made.

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Thank you. I have added that bit of information to the summary list.

BRZ but 99% of the info applies to the 86 as well.
Shows what is and is not different between the pre and post facelift cars and where what is available.

Good reference but the marking hype is strong with this one.

I love the "the underlying shape is the same, but it's lower, wider because we made the front look like its lower wider even though its the same" portion.

To be honest all I ever read of it was the technical parts so never really caught the marketing parts. It is really just crib notes for sales guys to sound knowledgeable but at least the data is sound.

I had a blue one that was loose (they are all pretty loose) and fell off onto the header heat shield and melted. Luckily I smelled it before it caught fire. What a mess.

So I read through the file that Tcoat posted and edited the summary one more time and added a picture. It's nice to know the reasons behind the changes that the engineers make. We now have an easily referenced post that explains what I was wanting to know without having to search through an entire PDF document. Thanks Tcoat.

I've seen pictures of the blue ones. Are they OEM or aftermarket?

Did it show blue ones in the info?

Sir, I saw no blue ones in the information that YOU provided, which included ONLY a transition from model year 2016 to model year 2017.

Perhaps there were blue engine covers made by the manufacturer in a PREVIOUS model year, or for that matter a model year from 2018 and up. That is the reason why I asked. No need for the sarcasm (If that's what your question to answer my question was). I'm just here to learn from you guys that have owned these cars for much longer than I have, as well as to share the knowledge that I have accumulated during my lifetime on other automobile-related issues.

So, again, I ask (and just to be MORE SPECIFIC): Were there any OEM blue plastic engine covers ever produced for the FA20/4U-GSE engines, or are they manufactured only by aftermarket companies?

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Everybody get's one answer to an easily searched question before sarcasm mode kicks in. So you tell US. Is the blue is OEM or aftermarket?

Not OP:

Quick search shows me a claim that a blue engine cover was available for the BRZ in Japan only as part of the accessories line-up.

So yes, OEM upgrade, but my first quick source is less than reputable ;)

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And see how easy that was!

Fair enough. But my intent here is to get all of this information packed into one easily searchable result so that the next guy that wants this information can easily find it without having to search everywhere else or ask around and waste their time. And in being the best reporter that I can be, I'd like to have actual verification from real owners, or in part of this case, engineers before I make my final written statement.

If I can get the answer I need by asking others here who may have already purchased one of these or had one already installed on their engine from the factory, it's still doing the same amount of research, just in a different way. But it has the additional advantage of being backed up by actual owners.

For instance, I know that some of the Scion tC cars had blue, lighted LED badges, but I never knew if they were OEM or aftermarket until I did some research myself. That information I was able to find without asking in any forum because at the time, I wasn't a forum member of any enthusiast car site. But now that I am, I can simply ask a question and hope that others with more knowledge may be able to answer.

Is it that difficult for people now to answer questions that they may possess accurate knowledge about, instead of referring the seeker to a search engine? I mean, this is a FORUM, right? We're here to help each other, right?

It was OEM, Japan only I believe. Here's the sad evidence.

https://i.imgur.com/BLuezUm.jpg

I've searched for a while and found those in red also. But I can't find evidence that they are OEM. Does your cover have a Subaru stamp and part number on it on the back side? Like this:

And as for the red ones that I have seen in pictures, The one I found available for sale seen in the picture below, does not have a Subaru part number associated with it in the ad. Also, if you'll notice as indicated by the green arrows, there is overspray of the red paint, indicating to me that someone is taking the black OEM plastic covers, spraypainting the top-side and trying to sell them as "JDM" parts.

If these different color engine covers were truly OEM, they would have a different part number than the one I posted in the picture above. The fact that actual blue plastic was used in the part that MJones_RB posted in his picture is leading me to believe it is indeed an actual OEM part. However, I'd like to see concrete evidence with a Subaru part number on it backing this up. The part number of the blue cover will differ slightly from the part number of the black cover and will be on the side that did NOT get melted.

Yes it had a Subaru part # SAA3240210. Sadly I threw it away in disgust after I pried it from my header. Luckily the smell of melted plastic dissipated quickly.

Here are a few links: ebay and other

https://cdn1.bigcommerce.com/n-63unu....1280.1280.jpg

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/f20AA...Rf/s-l1600.jpg

The red piece is under Toyota's JDM Modellista brand, part number D2110-37010:

https://auctions.c.yimg.jp/images.au...9f4i431629.jpg
https://auctions.c.yimg.jp/images.au...zjuf293377.jpg


If you really want to buy it, it's available from Black Hawk Japan:

https://www.blackhawkjapan.com/produ...ta-d2110-37010

Thank you sir. I wish I could see the actual numbers stamped on the plastic, as it's hard to read completely in that picture. I can only make out the first four numbers on the top row but I'll search for the number that you provided to see if I can find a better picture.

Again, thank you for being so helpful on this.

Thank you sir. I will look into that further as well.

I'm looking at buying some VHT Burnt Copper Metallic Engine spray paint. Would that be feasible to paint all the plastic coverings in the engine bay (engine cover, water pump, alternator)?

Would I also then need to buy any specific plastic primer or clear coat for a finish? Id rather leave it semi-flat like the original finish of the plastic, just changing up the color to be metallic orange to match my H8R life. Any input would be fantastic, thanks in advance if anyone ever comes back to this!

That will be fine on it's own without any other coating.
Just make sure the surfaces are clean, clean, clean, Wash down with a good grease cutting solvent and then wipe down with alcohol before coating them.