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ShackAttack 08-12-2020 11:58 PM

Best way to carry a bike
 
I'm looking for a good way to carry my bike. Its getting to be a real pain taking it apart and putting it in the trunk. Not to mention the scratches. Initially I thought a tow hitch was the way to go and had uhaul install one. It turns out the one they use on the 86 contacts the muffler and reverberates throughout the cabin. Now I have to deal with getting them to remove and return it. I'll probably be out the labor cost but the hitch itself should be returnable.

I'm not totally sure what plan B is. I could try the Curt hitch, but I'm still not comfortable with that much weight on the back and Curt's hitch has to be drilled out.

I think I may end up with Seasucker. I'm also not comfortable with it, but it doesn't add so much weight or affect anything underneath.

Any other solution people have come up with?

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A2TREJO 08-13-2020 12:06 AM

http://www.slambertperformance.com/shop/twin-hitch
Also "bought the wrong car" or "sell and get a truck" comments incoming as plan B

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ShackAttack 08-13-2020 12:19 AM

I looked at that. Between it and the Seasucker Talon, I'm thinking Seasucker may be the better option for a bike.

I think I will end up with a truck eventually. I wasn't riding much when I bought the car. With the pandemic making gyms unsafe I've started riding most days.

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NoHaveMSG 08-13-2020 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ShackAttack (Post 3357497)
I'm looking for a good way to carry my bike. Its getting to be a real pain taking it apart and putting it in the trunk. Not to mention the scratches. Initially I thought a tow hitch was the way to go and had uhaul install one. It turns out the one they use on the 86 contacts the muffler and reverberates throughout the cabin. Now I have to deal with getting them to remove and return it. I'll probably be out the labor cost but the hitch itself should be returnable.

I'm not totally sure what plan B is. I could try the Curt hitch, but I'm still not comfortable with that much weight on the back and Curt's hitch has to be drilled out.

I think I may end up with Seasucker. I'm also not comfortable with it, but it doesn't add so much weight or affect anything underneath.

Any other solution people have come up with?

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Slambert Performance twin hitch. Mounts to the tow hook positions.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...c60d4d2193.jpg

ShackAttack 08-13-2020 12:33 AM

Maybe I will go for the Slambert. Do you leave it setup or only when you move your bike?

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NoHaveMSG 08-13-2020 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by ShackAttack (Post 3357510)
Maybe I will go for the Slambert. Do you leave it setup or only when you move your bike?

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I’ve been leaving it setup as I have been riding regularly. It’s a simple install/removal though.

soundman98 08-13-2020 12:47 AM

something coming off the rear tow hook mounts is the best way.

https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29963

https://live.staticflickr.com/8795/1...b4f845c9_o.jpg

dpfarr 08-13-2020 01:34 AM

Roofrack will deform the thin light weight roof correct?

My wife saw my helmet come in the mail the other day and I told her “safety?”. She asked if I was getting a rollcage next. Roofrack mounted to rollcage points?

ShackAttack 08-13-2020 06:43 AM

I've seen some pictures of BRZs and other sports cars using Seaksucker Talons. My fear is that the roof will get dented either by the weight or by the bike falling over. I think Yakima stopped selling their rack due to denting. If you use a Talon, I'd concentrate the bulk of the weight over the auto glass. Seems like it would be stronger than the thin metal on the body.

I'm kicking myself for not realizing the tow hook was an alternative. As it stands, the exhaust note is loud below 2000 RPM and becomes an unbearable whine above 60 MPH. Plus I've added a good 50 lbs to the rear, but I knew that part going in. My mechanic took one look at it and said it can't stay. Aside from the contact on the muffler, he said it's off balance. The hitch should be directly under the red arrow, but it sits slightly left.

It would seem like really bad customer service if uhaul doesn't at least refund the cost of the part.

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dragoontwo 08-13-2020 08:50 AM

Slambert with a 1up rack here. I just remove the rack and leave the hitch on, as it's just a twist of the allen wrench on and off.


If I'm going to take a long trip I could just remove the hitch if I feel like it and pop the bumper covers back on.

ShackAttack 08-13-2020 09:32 AM

I'm pretty much sold on the Slambert. Just need to deal with the current hitch.

For the rack, 1up looks nice, but they're sold out (and expensive). I bought a platform rack at ****'s, but it's been sitting in the box for at least two weeks. I may have to return it and start over when I get the hitch sorted out.

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ShackAttack 08-13-2020 12:53 PM

Just wanted to provide an update for the sake of fairness. Uhaul corporate said this is a known issue with some hitches on some models. They offered either a refund or said they could try to get a different hitch. I'm not completely sure the refund includes labor, but I think the Slambert is a better solution for this car.

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gravitylover 08-18-2020 07:39 PM

I've been running the Curt for 7 years. While it does hang a little low and I bang it on the ground occasionally it has been bombproof and has never rattled against anything. The weight is actually a good thing, this car needs a few pounds in the rear. Having to drill out a couple of the holes was annoying at first but, whatever. I've carried bikes for probably 50k miles and never had a problem and one of my bikes is a 46 pound e-brick.

JesseG 08-19-2020 12:59 PM

Best way to carry a bike
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NoHaveMSG (Post 3357503)
Slambert Performance twin hitch. Mounts to the tow hook positions.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...c60d4d2193.jpg


It’s probably the angle of the photo, but the bike looks bigger than the FRS! [emoji38]
The twins are not an easy vehicle to transport bikes with that’s for sure

*BRZ

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JD001 08-19-2020 02:15 PM

Why do you want to carry your bike?? Try riding it, it's much more fun...

JesseG 08-19-2020 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by JD001 (Post 3359881)
Why do you want to carry your bike?? Try riding it, it's much more fun...


Oh that’s what bikes are for?!!

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soundman98 08-20-2020 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by JD001 (Post 3359881)
Why do you want to carry your bike?? Try riding it, it's much more fun...

it's like a salt life sticker!

https://i.imgur.com/n9mGeij_d.webp?m...fidelity=grand

ShackAttack 08-20-2020 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by gravitylover (Post 3359620)
I've been running the Curt for 7 years. While it does hang a little low and I bang it on the ground occasionally it has been bombproof and has never rattled against anything. The weight is actually a good thing, this car needs a few pounds in the rear. Having to drill out a couple of the holes was annoying at first but, whatever. I've carried bikes for probably 50k miles and never had a problem and one of my bikes is a 46 pound e-brick.

So the hitch they put on was the Curt, rebranded for uhaul. Based on the hardware they left on the car, they installed one of the spacers under the frame rather inside. This shifted the whole assembly down about 1/8 inch so there was no clearance.

Now they left a rattle in my exhaust and refused to fix it. Told me to file a claim against their insurance.

I have my mechanic working on the exhaust now. Trying to decide whether to try the Curt again with a competent installer or get the Slambert. I'm leaning towards the latter, but am worried about the strength of the tow hook.

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gravitylover 08-20-2020 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ShackAttack (Post 3360151)
So the hitch they put on was the Curt, rebranded for uhaul. Based on the hardware they left on the car, they installed one of the spacers under the frame rather inside. This shifted the whole assembly down about 1/8 inch so there was no clearance.

Now they left a rattle in my exhaust and refused to fix it. Told me to file a claim against their insurance.

I have my mechanic working on the exhaust now. Trying to decide whether to try the Curt again with a competent installer or get the Slambert. I'm leaning towards the latter, but am worried about the strength of the tow hook.

Sorry you're having a hard time with all of this. I could see where a mistake could leave that stupid large and heavy muffler rattling against something. The thing about using the tow hook style is you really are limited to one lightweight bike, I could never use it for 2 heavy(ish) mt bikes and certainly not for my 46 pound e-mtb. Well, maybe if I could drive on perfect pavement all the time and the bike would never need to bounce around. The problem is that "moment" when that long lever, with the weight up high, hanging off the tightly sprung rear end needs to move up/down/sideways all at the same time will likely overload those two 1/2" diameter bolts. I guess if I only had to transport a 20 pound road bike I wouldn't be as concerned especially if the rack was something really light also or maybe if you use a stabilizing strap or two to the leading edge of the trunk lid so the bike can't wobble as much to reduce the stress on those bolts it might be more feasible.

ShackAttack 08-20-2020 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gravitylover (Post 3360156)
Sorry you're having a hard time with all of this. I could see where a mistake could leave that stupid large and heavy muffler rattling against something. The thing about using the tow hook style is you really are limited to one lightweight bike, I could never use it for 2 heavy(ish) mt bikes and certainly not for my 46 pound e-mtb. Well, maybe if I could drive on perfect pavement all the time and the bike would never need to bounce around. The problem is that "moment" when that long lever, with the weight up high, hanging off the tightly sprung rear end needs to move up/down/sideways all at the same time will likely overload those two 1/2" diameter bolts. I guess if I only had to transport a 20 pound road bike I wouldn't be as concerned especially if the rack was something really light also or maybe if you use a stabilizing strap or two to the leading edge of the trunk lid so the bike can't wobble as much to reduce the stress on those bolts it might be more feasible.

Thanks for relaying this. I have a 30 lb double bike rack, but don't anticipate taking a second bike. I may exchange it for a single rack, but it's not going to weigh much less. My mountain bike is also 30 lbs. Do you think this will be too much weight for it?

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dragoontwo 08-20-2020 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gravitylover (Post 3360156)
Sorry you're having a hard time with all of this. I could see where a mistake could leave that stupid large and heavy muffler rattling against something. The thing about using the tow hook style is you really are limited to one lightweight bike, I could never use it for 2 heavy(ish) mt bikes and certainly not for my 46 pound e-mtb. Well, maybe if I could drive on perfect pavement all the time and the bike would never need to bounce around. The problem is that "moment" when that long lever, with the weight up high, hanging off the tightly sprung rear end needs to move up/down/sideways all at the same time will likely overload those two 1/2" diameter bolts. I guess if I only had to transport a 20 pound road bike I wouldn't be as concerned especially if the rack was something really light also or maybe if you use a stabilizing strap or two to the leading edge of the trunk lid so the bike can't wobble as much to reduce the stress on those bolts it might be more feasible.



I carry my 30 lb mtb on the 23 lb rack over the KY insterstate and have yet to have any problem. With that being said, I am looking to modify my rack so I can move the bike closer to the car to shrink that lever arm.

gravitylover 08-20-2020 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by ShackAttack (Post 3360159)
Thanks for relaying this. I have a 30 lb double bike rack, but don't anticipate taking a second bike. I may exchange it for a single rack, but it's not going to weigh much less. My mountain bike is also 30 lbs. Do you think this will be too much weight for it?

Like dragoon said above, you'll probably be fine. I think if you add two stabilizing straps to reduce the bounce and sway it will make all the difference but you'd still be limited to one bike. Sometimes you just have to move two and that limit might be a problem.

ShackAttack 08-20-2020 11:06 AM

So, my mechanic called. He says uhaul probably dropped a bolt inside the frame when they installed the hardware. Now I have to get a body shop to fish it out.

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RWDWeekend 08-20-2020 03:03 PM

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Seasucker Talon has my vote. I went with their Monkey Bars option (more typical cross bar style rack) so I could outfit it for a board, bike, anything really. Just more versatile. I've had it for a month now, and left the rack & board on the car for 5 days straight as a sort of test. I've had to give the cups a few extra pumps twice, and everything remained buttoned down when I tested it at 80mph for 30 mins or so on two occasions. I think it looks halfway decent as far as racks are concerned! Photo for reference.

dragoontwo 08-20-2020 08:52 PM

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Shameless post ride picture.

Aluma007 08-20-2020 11:15 PM

I had the 1.25"curt hidden hitch that mounts to the rear bumper's inner support with a saris super clamp for 3 years. no problems, no funny business. Regularly took two MTBs to trails and long trips too. And for less than $150 too. :D

ShackAttack 08-20-2020 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by dragoontwo (Post 3360407)
Shameless post ride picture.

What bike rack is that? Looks nice!

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dragoontwo 08-21-2020 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ShackAttack (Post 3360465)
What bike rack is that? Looks nice!

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That's a 1Up rack.

JD001 08-21-2020 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by dragoontwo (Post 3360407)
Shameless post ride picture.

"Post ride", where did you ride it? A velodrome? UK riding, the bike would be filthy..

dragoontwo 08-21-2020 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by JD001 (Post 3360551)
"Post ride", where did you ride it? A velodrome? UK riding, the bike would be filthy..



Here in Tennessee. The trail has been fairly dry, and soaks up rain pretty well. Normally my bike is dirty after a ride though.

wil5bart 09-16-2020 04:40 AM

I have a Seasucker and it is pretty stable.

Bobharp 10-09-2021 08:29 PM

GT86 & SeaSucker Talon
 
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Many thanks to all for their posts on this topic.


I decided to go with the SeaSucker Talon to shuttle my son's bike back and forth to college.

This was our first go at this. I of course was nervous for my car and my son was nervous about his bike. Kids these days! He really needs some priority adjustment.
It was a 350 mile trip (in the USA) from Maryland to Ohio. I stuck mostly to the interstate highways. These were twisty enough! Plenty of semi trucks, wind and curves. I did not hold back (too much). We also encountered a bit of rain (nothing extreme). We arrived safe with no indication of loss of the suction with the mounts or shift in the bike's position. No indication of any paint damage as well. Though I'll inspect the mount area closer during my 86's next bath.

There were some disturbing noises from the roof panel where front mount was placed (see photos below). This mainly occurred at low speeds while driving on local roads.

I had not seen any photos of the SeaSucker Talon in the forum so I thought I'd post them here.

NARFALICIOUS 04-16-2022 03:59 PM

How would the Slambert (plus a bike rack and 2 bikes without front tires or seats) hold up on a long road trip?

soundman98 04-16-2022 04:16 PM

are we talking 20 pound carbon fiber onroad bikes, or 200 pound DH bikes?

NARFALICIOUS 04-16-2022 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by soundman98 (Post 3517475)
are we talking 20 pound carbon fiber onroad bikes, or 200 pound DH bikes?


1 is a road bike, 1 is a comfort bike.
Just checked and they were each around 35lbs.

soundman98 04-16-2022 11:08 PM

so 70-ish pounds.

per slambert, you're good. the tongue weight is the part you'll want to look at.

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The hitch is built to SAE J684 standards, and is rated it at 1000lb max trailer weight, 100lb max tongue weight

NoHaveMSG 04-18-2022 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by NARFALICIOUS (Post 3517472)
How would the Slambert (plus a bike rack and 2 bikes without front tires or seats) hold up on a long road trip?

I would just stay under the recommended tongue weight and you should be fine. I have ran my over the tongue weight a few times and it wasn't bad. I think the main thing is my rack was bouncing a lot with my DH bike and my buddies trail bike on it since it was only 1 1/4 receiver.

CockpitCruiser 05-05-2022 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobharp (Post 3472112)
Many thanks to all for their posts on this topic.


I decided to go with the SeaSucker Talon to shuttle my son's bike back and forth to college.

This was our first go at this. I of course was nervous for my car and my son was nervous about his bike. Kids these days! He really needs some priority adjustment.
It was a 350 mile trip (in the USA) from Maryland to Ohio. I stuck mostly to the interstate highways. These were twisty enough! Plenty of semi trucks, wind and curves. I did not hold back (too much). We also encountered a bit of rain (nothing extreme). We arrived safe with no indication of loss of the suction with the mounts or shift in the bike's position. No indication of any paint damage as well. Though I'll inspect the mount area closer during my 86's next bath.

There were some disturbing noises from the roof panel where front mount was placed (see photos below). This mainly occurred at low speeds while driving on local roads.

I had not seen any photos of the SeaSucker Talon in the forum so I thought I'd post them here.




Thank you for this post and for the pics. I recently found out about the SeaSucker, and purchased a used SeaSucker "mini-bomber" because I wanted to tote 2 bikes.



Just for the record, the mini-bomber is too big for the GT86. I tried it in several locations and it doesn't work.


https://i.ibb.co/bF342wv/Sea-Sucker-Mini-Bomber.jpg

Through this I learned I need to buy two SeaSucker Talons, and for my bike, it's called a Boost Kit. For about $300 I get the single SeaSucker kit and the correct size inserts for the front forks, and it's not a major pain to add or remove.



I thought about getting a rear rack, but that's so much more involved and would take so much more time to install and remove than the SeaSucker kit


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