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Mach V Dan 08-08-2012 02:29 PM

Mach V muffler delete prototype
 
We built our own muffler delete pipe, and I took some video of our BRZ with the pipe installed.




[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzzoFM6_o1w"]Mach V Subaru BRZ / Scion FR-S prototype muffler delete - YouTube[/ame]

Updated: This part is now in production and you can order it. See our web site.

--Dan
Mach V

Bruninho8 08-08-2012 02:35 PM

sounds nice!

ultra 08-08-2012 04:58 PM

That sounds better than most of the full on exhausts I've seen (heard?).

In for pics & price. :)

stanm 08-08-2012 07:03 PM

Take my money please.

I'm serious!

stat1 08-08-2012 10:49 PM

Nice!!! Give me one now (or in two weeks when I get my car) :bellyroll:

Superhatch 08-08-2012 11:25 PM

Oddly this is the most "boxer" like exhaust I've heard so far.

bimmerboy 08-08-2012 11:34 PM

Sounds very boxer-ish, i like...

Take a look at this thread regarding high temps from muffler deletes (see the youtube clip too). http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14112

Curious if you are experiencing the same issue?

mashal 08-08-2012 11:37 PM

I think I just found the sound I wanted my exhaust to make . Definitely interested .

zAnSh1n 08-09-2012 01:49 AM

that's cool and sounds really nice... i wouldn't want to mess with heat issues, though...

Mach V Dan 08-09-2012 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bimmerboy (Post 368274)
Take a look at this thread regarding high temps from muffler deletes (see the youtube clip too). http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14112

Curious if you are experiencing the same issue?

Ours is of 2.25" pipe, which I think is slightly smaller than twincamRob's. Ours is stainless steel, too, although I'm not sure that's going to make a difference in how much heat it radiates. But in any case, we had no issues with heat on the bumper.

--Dan
Mach V

ultra 08-09-2012 12:43 PM

Curious to see how you did it.

phenom86 08-09-2012 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ultra (Post 369256)
Curious to see how you did it.

yeah do you have pics of the unit? on and off the car

MannyO 08-09-2012 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ultra (Post 367477)
That sounds better than most of the full on exhausts I've seen (heard?).

In for pics & price. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superhatch (Post 368253)
Oddly this is the most "boxer" like exhaust I've heard so far.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mashal (Post 368281)
I think I just found the sound I wanted my exhaust to make . Definitely interested .

+1 to all of the above. Subscribed.

ABQautoxer 08-09-2012 02:16 PM

I'm hoping for a dual tip muffler delete. I know it's extra weight but I hate single exit on a dual exit bumper.

Mach V Dan 08-09-2012 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phenom86 (Post 369453)
yeah do you have pics of the unit? on and off the car

The idea was a very simple, light part, something that would be suitable for use at the track for weight savings. Turns out the sound is very pleasant, and I found it easy to live with. But we didn't have appearance in mind when we put it together, so it's form-follows-function.

On the car:

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y24...s/BRZ/1106.jpg

Off:

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y24...eleteproto.jpg

(This is after I drove around with it for several weeks, so it's showing some signs of use...)

--Dan
Mach V

Mach V Dan 08-09-2012 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ABQautoxer (Post 369501)
I'm hoping for a dual tip muffler delete. I know it's extra weight but I hate single exit on a dual exit bumper.

Again, this setup was not for appearance, just for maximum weight reduction. If it was for appearance, I'd probably do one of these with a polished tip added on.

What if there was a matching dummy tip on the other side, that didn't go anywhere? It would be lighter than an actual Y-pipe setup...

--Dan
Mach V

ABQautoxer 08-09-2012 03:54 PM

I would dislike the fake tip more than a single personally. The thinking is the no muffler Y is still lighter than any other axle back yet has this sound (hopefully) and better visually than a single exit for daily use. I'm probably in the minority wanting such as thing as this isn't my primary autox/track car, just my daily driver I will autox at local events we don't use the WRX.

phenom86 08-09-2012 04:48 PM

Would you be able to create one like this for the car but dual.. this is what i used to run on my evo when i first bought it but changed it out to an HKS

http://www.mellonracing.com/images/SDmufflerRear.JPG

DarkSunrise 08-09-2012 10:43 PM

Wow who knew there was such a good sounding exhaust note hiding in there? For a 4 cylinder engine, that sounds nice and sporty.

pinoyplaya 08-09-2012 10:52 PM

I dont know anything about cars but I do want this sound... is it easy to install? Why cant you guys make something that you just put on the tip of the existing exhaust, then I dont have to go under the car. :(

Mach V Dan 08-10-2012 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pinoyplaya (Post 370593)
I dont know anything about cars but I do want this sound... is it easy to install?

It's very easy. You could do it in your driveway using ramps or jack stands.

Quote:

Why cant you guys make something that you just put on the tip of the existing exhaust, then I dont have to go under the car. :(
I'm not sure if you're kidding, but really, this is a pretty easy swap.

--Dan
Mach V

Chad 08-10-2012 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pinoyplaya (Post 370593)
I dont know anything about cars but I do want this sound... is it easy to install? Why cant you guys make something that you just put on the tip of the existing exhaust, then I dont have to go under the car. :(

Because adding something on the tip of the existing exhaust wouldn't do anything but add weight lol...

Chad 08-10-2012 05:40 PM

By the way love the sound of this, best growly note i've heard so far out of the 86. What would be the best way to get as close to this sound with dual functional pipes out the back as i'm using it as a daily and care about the looks somewhat. Also i'm thinking for the weight just something that would be lighter than stock? And price isn't an issue. Any advice?

Thobjo 08-10-2012 07:20 PM

Love the sound, want something like this but dual for estethics.

Mach V Dan 08-10-2012 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 372125)
By the way love the sound of this, best growly note i've heard so far out of the 86. What would be the best way to get as close to this sound with dual functional pipes out the back as i'm using it as a daily and care about the looks somewhat. Also i'm thinking for the weight just something that would be lighter than stock? And price isn't an issue. Any advice?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thobjo (Post 372308)
Love the sound, want something like this but dual for estethics.

We're going to mock up a dual-tip version next. Stay tuned.

--Dan
Mach V

Wheelsoffracing 08-19-2012 08:56 PM

Sounds Great! Any DB measurements vs. stock?

Mach V Dan 08-21-2012 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wheelsoffracing (Post 389670)
Sounds Great! Any DB measurements vs. stock?

Sorry, haven't used a DB meter on 'em yet.

--Dan
Mach V

Thobjo 09-20-2012 09:57 AM

Any news?

M1K3 09-20-2012 10:55 AM

I just got one, I'm lucky Mach V is close to home. Here is the link to it on their site: Mach V BRZ/FRS Muffler Delete

ABQautoxer 09-20-2012 11:01 AM

We were waiting to hear on a dual exit delete option, not the regular delete.

M1K3 09-20-2012 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ABQautoxer (Post 451027)
We were waiting to hear on a dual exit delete option, not the regular delete.

Ooops, my bad:bonk:

Thobjo 09-25-2012 06:35 AM

Maybe it would be an idea to make these so that you can attach the stock "big" jdm/edm tips?

Would look the same as stock + awesome sound.

diirk 09-25-2012 10:15 AM

Sounds good and I'd also be interested in a dual exit option.

Mach V Dan 09-27-2012 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thobjo (Post 458981)
Maybe it would be an idea to make these so that you can attach the stock "big" jdm/edm tips?

Would look the same as stock + awesome sound.

I think that would be price prohibitive. The dual-outlet delete will come with tips.

--Dan
Mach V

fmsida 09-27-2012 03:23 PM

any pictures on the dual outlet delete? release dates? price range? Thanks.

Silp3 09-27-2012 03:54 PM

I don't think the person who had the heat issue on the bumper installed an outlet beyond the bumper. Instead, I believe they just disassembled the muffler, leaving the outlet behind the bumper. At a 12.5:1 compression engine, that sucker gets hot.

d1ck 09-27-2012 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silp3 (Post 463917)
I don't think the person who had the heat issue on the bumper installed an outlet beyond the bumper. Instead, I believe they just disassembled the muffler, leaving the outlet behind the bumper. At a 12.5:1 compression engine, that sucker gets hot.

The exhaust from a higher compression engine should be cooler due to the fact that increased compression increases the engine's thermal efficiency and there is more of the fuels energy turned into "go", and less turned into thermal energy.

Mach V Dan 09-27-2012 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fmsida (Post 463854)
any pictures on the dual outlet delete? release dates? price range? Thanks.

When the prototype is ready, we will have photos. When the production ones are underway, we will have pricing. As for dates, if I don't promise anything, I cannot fail to fulfill my promise.

--Dan
Mach V

Silp3 09-27-2012 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d1ck (Post 464108)
The exhaust from a higher compression engine should be cooler due to the fact that increased compression increases the engine's thermal efficiency and there is more of the fuels energy turned into "go", and less turned into thermal energy.


Learns something new daily!

Nonetheless, to some degree there is a higher than usual amount of heat coming out that the bumper's material was never designed to handle the heat

Mach V Dan 10-08-2012 10:17 PM

TIG welding on the dual-tip prototype.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y24...0pics/7929.jpg

--Dan
Mach V


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