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Sur_vey17 06-07-2020 02:28 PM

GT86 Manual Shifter Knob Construction
 
Hi All,


New here.


Hoping someone knows the answer about the construction of the stock gear shifter knob.


I want to get the stock one re-wrapped in new leather, and the plastic silver disk around the gear indicator face, and the base of the gear shifter, i wamt to make some replacement aluminium replacements.


So 2 questions:


  • How is the gear face and plastic disk mounted to the gear knob itself? Just glued or riveted in or?
  • Is the plastic disc (originally silver) around the gear indicator face removable from the indicator face?
Thanks guys!

soundman98 06-07-2020 02:30 PM

sure seems like a lot of work:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Manual-Shif...wAAOSwLyVZ27Z5

Sur_vey17 06-07-2020 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soundman98 (Post 3339182)


It is but it's a project.


I've looked at at aftermarket, the one linked has the TRD tag punched into it which i dont psrsonally want.

norcalpb 06-07-2020 02:43 PM

It’s all glued together.

Sur_vey17 06-07-2020 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by norcalpb (Post 3339186)
It’s all glued together.


Interesting... thanks for that.


Do you know if the disk around the gear face is a separate piece?

norcalpb 06-07-2020 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sur_vey17 (Post 3339188)
Interesting... thanks for that.


Do you know if the disk around the gear face is a separate piece?

Yes, the bottom ring and top disk can be pried off. I had Sweidit do my shift knob, he’d probably have a better idea of what was involved.

sweidit86@gmail.com

Sur_vey17 06-07-2020 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by norcalpb (Post 3339191)
Yes, the bottom ring and top disk can be pried off. I had Sweidit do my shift knob, he’d probably have a better idea of what was involved.

sweidit86@gmail.com


Many thanks!



Made contact.

norcalpb 06-07-2020 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sur_vey17 (Post 3339193)
Many thanks!



Made contact.

Just reread your post and I don’t believe the upper silver ring is removable from the plauque with the gear numbers on it. You may have to buy a gear indicator plaque that’s the same size as OEM to cleanly remove the upper silver ring.

Sur_vey17 06-10-2020 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by norcalpb (Post 3339253)
Just reread your post and I don’t believe the upper silver ring is removable from the plauque with the gear numbers on it. You may have to buy a gear indicator plaque that’s the same size as OEM to cleanly remove the upper silver ring.


just in case you were mildly interested. Gear number plaque is removable from teh silver disk around it:


https://i.ibb.co/QFkCzzX/image.png


Back side of Gear indicator disk + Silver Ring:
https://i.ibb.co/yRrpxyw/image.png


So the Silver ring is actually just a round holder with the gear indicator plate nestled in it.


The gear indicator disk is just taped / glued in place. So it is removable.

norcalpb 06-10-2020 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sur_vey17 (Post 3339985)
just in case you were mildly interested. Gear number plaque is removable from teh silver disk around it:


https://i.ibb.co/QFkCzzX/image.png


Back side of Gear indicator disk + Silver Ring:
https://i.ibb.co/yRrpxyw/image.png


So the Silver ring is actually just a round holder with the gear indicator plate nestled in it.


The gear indicator disk is just taped / glued in place. So it is removable.

Good stuff!

Sur_vey17 07-13-2020 12:37 PM

So just an update on this project so far.
Got the shifter re-wraped in calve leather, with red stitching to match, the stock one results below:

Got a skilled leather craftsman to re-wrap it in calves leather, he did a great job:

https://i.ibb.co/jDKnrCC/0a37ea6e-21...d31e55eb93.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/VN79Mvf/801dc6a5-76...bd759356eb.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/mbhfF3K/5bad2491-ec...0c893f00-2.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/1n6Dp1Q/14bc0312-60...d54da66449.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/mRsfkBv/a19437fc-57...5ec87f8225.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/gw6H52W/f046c875-55...c289bc433b.jpg

Then got another guy who makes metal parts for a living:
https://i.ibb.co/fXn9R5t/a0041ebd-7a...c85f68c6a4.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/tqJyWn7/4872746f-f4...121ccd0a27.jpg

Then he put the pieces together:
https://i.ibb.co/Bn8PkfW/semi-final.jpg

Now i just need to get it shipped back to me, and ill take a few more glamour shots. Think it came out well!

Sur_vey17 07-19-2020 04:42 PM

Couple more updates to come. Had the bottom piece made too!
https://i.ibb.co/MNwD7bt/IMG-20200716-WA0000.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/NLqq1hv/IMG-20200716-WA0001.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/pP5WLtf/IMG-20200717-WA0000.jpg


Above is the bottom cap being formed from the Aluminium.





Below is it finished ready for fitting:

https://i.ibb.co/v3JccyY/IMG-20200717-WA0001.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/SKW9bjD/IMG-20200717-WA0002.jpg


I will be getting the bottom cap anodized so it can match the existing faux metal bits in the car already but I will leave the top cap in its raw finished state as per the above post.


Then Ill install it for the final shots.

Yoshoobaroo 07-19-2020 06:14 PM

GT86 Manual Shifter Knob Construction
 
That looks fantastic!

Any chance your guy is willing to make more sets of those aluminum parts? I’d totally pay for a set!

Sur_vey17 07-20-2020 06:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoshoobaroo (Post 3350539)
That looks fantastic!

Any chance your guy is willing to make more sets of those aluminum parts? I’d totally pay for a set!


Without a doubt he would be. I've absorbed the cost of paying for the 3d design already so now it would just be a case of plugging the design in and clicking start. Im not based in the states but if that's not a deterrent then you can DM me and we can discuss.

Yoshoobaroo 07-20-2020 11:16 AM

Awesome! I took my old knob apart yesterday. Do you know if you can separate the rubber ball from the metal threaded housing? I would like to do this but only if I can take the weight out of the knob. I don’t like how heavy the stock knob is.

Sur_vey17 07-20-2020 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoshoobaroo (Post 3350668)
Awesome! I took my old knob apart yesterday. Do you know if you can separate the rubber ball from the metal threaded housing? I would like to do this but only if I can take the weight out of the knob. I don’t like how heavy the stock knob is.


It doesnt appear so. Looks pretty solid. Your only option might be to cut it out and remove the pieces.

Yoshoobaroo 07-20-2020 11:28 AM

Yea that is what it looks like to me

daviddgaf21 07-21-2020 11:31 PM

Dude this is freaking cool! How’s the weight compared to stock? So you were able to separate the clear enamel number portion from the silver trim?

Sur_vey17 07-22-2020 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daviddgaf21 (Post 3351087)
Dude this is freaking cool! How’s the weight compared to stock? So you were able to separate the clear enamel number portion from the silver trim?


The weight is about the same, +- a few grams but absolutely nothing you would notice, because its aluminum its super lightweight.


Yes, the enamel disc can come off, but its not just a simple pop it out from the back, its properly stuck there, like... good and proper. So you will need to use some sort of a solvent to get at the glue at the back like I did.


For this project, I ended up buying a 2nd hand spare gear shifter, so I didnt have to sacrifice my original, and got the 2nd hand one for dirt cheap as it was pretty worn, and just got the refurb done on that one,so if it did go wrong, I didnt lose anything.

Sur_vey17 07-22-2020 07:28 AM

Final shots:


https://i.ibb.co/74mZ30B/20200722-114932.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/6Bs1xTF/20200722-114818.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/Q8yBwJN/20200722-114853.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/QbYzmDf/20200722-114917.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/rFVJnJv/20200722-120658.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/5cQqSkS/20200722-120751.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/dcPvYs7/20200722-120743.jpg


It was 99% press fit/ torque fit, so only a tiny dab of hot glue was used to hold the enamel in place. and make the bottom cap fit a bit more snug, so its all removable too if you wanted to try different finishes.



Really happy with the way it came out, and the pictures dont do it enough justice.
If anyone else is interested in getting the 2 parts, happy to get more made.

norcalpb 07-22-2020 01:28 PM

Is there a chance for any stainless steel or titanium options?

Sur_vey17 07-22-2020 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by norcalpb (Post 3351199)
Is there a chance for any stainless steel or titanium options?


Not sure about titanium, but definitely stainless.

norcalpb 07-22-2020 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sur_vey17 (Post 3351248)
Not sure about titanium, but definitely stainless.

Well then, I am very interested in a stainless set. It could be the weighted OEM shift knob that a lot of people are looking for.

Yoshoobaroo 07-22-2020 08:44 PM

Ti is a pain in the ass to cut. Probably not worth the extra cost.

Yoshoobaroo 07-22-2020 09:21 PM

GT86 Manual Shifter Knob Construction
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by norcalpb (Post 3351288)
Well then, I am very interested in a stainless set. It could be the weighted OEM shift knob that a lot of people are looking for.


The stock knob is weighted already though. Heavier knobs cause accelerated selector fork wear.

norcalpb 07-22-2020 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoshoobaroo (Post 3351305)
The stock knob is weighted already though. Heavier knobs cause accelerated selector fork wear.

Factory is 200 grams but the JDM TRD and STi knobs are around 270 grams. If I could get the factory to 270-300 grams I would be very happy.

This should still be light enough not to increase wear. It would be nice to hear from someone that has had say a Raceseng shift knob for a long time and get a report on how their shifting feels now.

Yoshoobaroo 07-22-2020 10:43 PM

GT86 Manual Shifter Knob Construction
 
And here I am trying to remove the weight inside the stock knob! [emoji1787]

My Tomei plastic knob weighs 70g and I love the extra feedback that provides.

Sur_vey17 07-23-2020 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by norcalpb (Post 3351288)
Well then, I am very interested in a stainless set. It could be the weighted OEM shift knob that a lot of people are looking for.


Well whenever you ready to take the plunge - happy to help!

norcalpb 07-23-2020 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sur_vey17 (Post 3351428)
Well whenever you ready to take the plunge - happy to help!

How much would stainless be + shipping to California?

stevehad123 07-24-2020 07:19 AM

That's slick. Do you happen to know the diameter of that bottom piece? Of the narrower circumference where it tapers? (the very bottom)?

Sur_vey17 07-24-2020 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevehad123 (Post 3351624)
That's slick. Do you happen to know the diameter of that bottom piece? Of the narrower circumference where it tapers? (the very bottom)?


I dont I'm afraid, as someone far far more intelligent than I, took the plastic piece and fabricated the metal part. So any dimensions etc I dont have :(

Decep 07-27-2020 03:59 PM

Looks great, interested too.

Sur_vey17 07-29-2020 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by norcalpb (Post 3351582)
How much would stainless be + shipping to California?


Spoke to the guy that made mine, while it can be done in stainless, he cant really offering at this point. He does a lot of work with magnesium alloys - so does not fabricate any ferrous metals - due to obvious saftey issues.
So if you interested in the aluminium - then he can help.
Shipping to Cali from my country is about

$23 - $35 - more leaning towards the lesser side, even less once I know exact dimensions.



Quote:

Originally Posted by Decep (Post 3352421)
Looks great, interested too.

Yeah can absolutely help you out.




Would like to get an idea of how many people would like these, as the more I make, the cheaper they become.

Sur_vey17 07-29-2020 11:39 AM

Finally got pricing. Looking at +-40$ (depending on exchange rate at the time) excl. Shipping for a set in aluminium.

Yoshoobaroo 07-29-2020 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sur_vey17 (Post 3353028)
Finally got pricing. Looking at +-40$ (depending on exchange rate at the time) excl. Shipping for a set in aluminium.


That’s is a good deal! Very interested. Any chance you could source the leather piece?

Sur_vey17 07-29-2020 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoshoobaroo (Post 3353033)
That’s is a good deal! Very interested. Any chance you could source the leather piece?


Hey,


Sadly not - the leather itself needs to be wet-fitted - so the saturate and warm up the leather, and fit it to get a tight fit... and sort for mould it in place, and then stitch it shut - and that might be a bit expensive to do - I cant say refurbishing was done CHEAPER than buying a new one, but I certainly got it done to a much higher standard.


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