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hpanju 05-25-2020 01:17 AM

VLAND Headlights
 
Hi guys, looking to purchase some VLANDS for my 2016 pre facelift BRZ. Im very new to the whole lighting and electrical aspect of things, can I buy the headlights (they dont come with bulbs), and then buy just a set of bulbs separately, or do I need a full HID kit (whatever that is). I understand they only take h7, d2s, and d2h bulbs.

Guest 05-25-2020 08:56 AM

You'll need a full HID kit. So bulbs, ballasts, wiring.

Yoshoobaroo 05-25-2020 09:21 AM

Just be prepared, the Vlands’ light output is a lot worse than the stock BRZ lights.

Bowflex 05-25-2020 12:36 PM

These are the same as VLands and come with a HID kit. I finally pulled the trigger on them today. 10% off with the MDS10 promo code that expires today. They are backordered again but hopefully they get a new shipment next month.

https://www.ft86speedfactory.com/olm...2013-ft86.html

hpanju 05-25-2020 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowflex (Post 3334618)
These are the same as VLands and come with a HID kit. I finally pulled the trigger on them today. 10% off with the MDS10 promo code that expires today. They are backordered again but hopefully they get a new shipment next month.

https://www.ft86speedfactory.com/olm...2013-ft86.html

I talked to my guy and he said they’re on backorder until late August :cry:

Irace86.2.0 05-25-2020 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by hpanju (Post 3334535)
Hi guys, looking to purchase some VLANDS for my 2016 pre facelift BRZ. Im very new to the whole lighting and electrical aspect of things, can I buy the headlights (they dont come with bulbs), and then buy just a set of bulbs separately, or do I need a full HID kit (whatever that is). I understand they only take h7, d2s, and d2h bulbs.

H7 can be used, but the housings are made for D2H, so the H7 bulb doesn't fit well. No OEM DxS bulb will fit because of the bulk to the bulbs and the housing.

Buy a HID kit for D2H with an H7 power adapter and a standard relay kit (not a canbus adapter).

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Originally Posted by Yoshoobaroo (Post 3334579)
Just be prepared, the Vlands’ light output is a lot worse than the stock BRZ lights.

Not at all.

This is running a 6500k bulb. I since have changed to a 5500k, but I doubt there is much difference between my output and the OEM setup.

Here are some bad pictures (iPhone 6). These headlights allow for better output than many OEM HID headlights.

https://i.imgur.com/paJijFh.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/dLRTd0e.jpg

hpanju 05-25-2020 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0 (Post 3334736)
H7 can be used, but the housings are made for D2H, so the H7 bulb doesn't fit well. No OEM DxS bulb will fit because of the bulk to the bulbs and the housing.

Buy a HID kit for D2H with an H7 power adapter and a standard relay kit (not a canbus adapter).



Not at all.

This is running a 6500k bulb. I since have changed to a 5500k, but I doubt there is much difference between my output and the OEM setup.

Here are some bad pictures (iPhone 6). These headlights allow for better output than many OEM HID headlights.

https://i.imgur.com/paJijFh.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/dLRTd0e.jpg

I’m assuming those pictures are vlands with an HID kit installed cause I’ve heard halogens in VLANDs sucks

sharpsicle 05-25-2020 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0 (Post 3334736)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoshoobaroo
Just be prepared, the Vlands’ light output is a lot worse than the stock BRZ lights.

Not at all.

This is running a 6500k bulb. I since have changed to a 5500k, but I doubt there is much difference between my output and the OEM setup.

Absolutely they are a lot worse out of the box with the standard halogen bulb. Obviously if you put a new HID kit on it will increase output, just like any other housing.

Irace86.2.0 05-25-2020 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by hpanju (Post 3334744)
I’m assuming those pictures are vlands with an HID kit installed cause I’ve heard halogens in VLANDs sucks

I actually ran a Sylvania Ultra White bulb for a while before my HID kit came in, and it isn't as bright or white, but the cutoff is the same. In order for it to fit I had to file down a tab. Maybe others don't file it down, so the bulb sits crooked, and it doesn't project well.

The problem with filing down the tab is that the D2H bulbs use the tab to orient the bulb correctly in the housing, so it takes more effort to align them later. I suggest just getting the D2H kit. Check out my build for pictures of where I mounted them.

https://www.sylvania-automotive.com/...erstar_zxe.jsp

Irace86.2.0 05-25-2020 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by sharpsicle (Post 3334747)
Absolutely they are a lot worse out of the box with the standard halogen bulb. Obviously if you put a new HID kit on it will increase output, just like any other housing.

My kit didn't even come with a bulb. I think some vendors throw in a bulb, but saying the headlights are worse is like saying aftermarket wheels are worse than the stock rims because the aftermarket rims come with no tires or because some vendors includes the rims with some crapped tires.

We are talking about the headlights--not the bulbs. The headlights are good.

sharpsicle 05-25-2020 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0 (Post 3334754)
...saying the headlights are worse is like saying aftermarket wheels are worse than the stock rims because the aftermarket rims come with no tires or because some vendors includes the rims with some crapped tires.

I would stand by that as well. Wheel is only as good as the tire that's on it. Aesthetics without proper function is good only if the car never moves. If you have to make an additional investment to get the advertised function, it's worth bringing up.

Irace86.2.0 05-25-2020 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by sharpsicle (Post 3334781)
I would stand by that as well. Wheel is only as good as the tire that's on it. Aesthetics without proper function is good only if the car never moves. If you have to make an additional investment to get the advertised function, it's worth bringing up.

All aftermarket headlights are pretty much the same--SpecD, Winjet, etc--H7 or HID. For some reason these headlights get a lot of negative comments from people who don't own them.

Bowflex 05-25-2020 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by hpanju (Post 3334734)
I talked to my guy and he said they’re on backorder until late August :cry:

That's unfortunate. Thanks for the heads up. I knew I should've bought them a few weeks ago when they came back in stock.

gpvecchi 05-26-2020 04:31 AM

Any options for those who come from 2017+ bi-led setup?

Yoshoobaroo 05-26-2020 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by gpvecchi (Post 3334896)
Any options for those who come from 2017+ bi-led setup?

https://www.theretrofitsource.com/scion-frs-morimoto-xb-heads-B-LF470?quantity=1


Expensive, but probably the best optics available for our platform.

gpvecchi 05-26-2020 04:51 PM

Thanks, but I don't like the design...

Yoshoobaroo 05-26-2020 05:25 PM

It'd be cool if one of the aftermarket parts houses would do a controlled comparison between the different options. Take one headlight each, strap them all to a bench and hook them up to 12V, and take detailed pics of the light patterns with all of them on (at the same time so WB and exposure don't change between shots).

I'd love to see the relative intensity, cutoff, and most importantly the hotspot pattern on a whole lineup (Stock Halogen, Stock HID/LED, VLAND halogen, VLAND HID, OLM, MORIMOTO, etc.)

@FT-86 SpeedFactory maybe? Got some time to kill for a new video for the community?

Sam86 05-27-2020 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0 (Post 3334736)
H7 can be used, but the housings are made for D2H, so the H7 bulb doesn't fit well. No OEM DxS bulb will fit because of the bulk to the bulbs and the housing.

Buy a HID kit for D2H with an H7 power adapter and a standard relay kit (not a canbus adapter).



Not at all.

This is running a 6500k bulb. I since have changed to a 5500k, but I doubt there is much difference between my output and the OEM setup.

Here are some bad pictures (iPhone 6). These headlights allow for better output than many OEM HID headlights.

https://i.imgur.com/paJijFh.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/dLRTd0e.jpg

What do you do with the ballast? I have my D2H HID kit with ballast and am still waiting for the VLAND housing to arrive. Doing the install myself and am not sure where people attach the ballasts. Do people just use double side tape? screw it into the side? just leave it hanging?
Was looking around my engine bay and there doesn't seem to be many flat surfaces large enough to attach it to besides on my driver side with that plastic electrical box

Yoshoobaroo 05-27-2020 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Sam86 (Post 3335317)
What do you do with the ballast? I have my D2H HID kit with ballast and am still waiting for the VLAND housing to arrive. Doing the install myself and am not sure where people attach the ballasts. Do people just use double side tape? screw it into the side? just leave it hanging?
Was looking around my engine bay and there doesn't seem to be many flat surfaces large enough to attach it to besides on my driver side with that plastic electrical box

I usually tape them to the underside of the headlight housing if there is room. If not I've seen them mounted anywhere near the headlight that doesn't really get wet. the 3M automotive mounting tape works well, but screws are easier to remove.

Sam86 05-27-2020 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Yoshoobaroo (Post 3335343)
I usually tape them to the underside of the headlight housing if there is room. If not I've seen them mounted anywhere near the headlight that doesn't really get wet. the 3M automotive mounting tape works well, but screws are easier to remove.

Thanks i'll try your method when it arrives

Irace86.2.0 05-27-2020 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam86 (Post 3335317)
What do you do with the ballast? I have my D2H HID kit with ballast and am still waiting for the VLAND housing to arrive. Doing the install myself and am not sure where people attach the ballasts. Do people just use double side tape? screw it into the side? just leave it hanging?
Was looking around my engine bay and there doesn't seem to be many flat surfaces large enough to attach it to besides on my driver side with that plastic electrical box

I have pictures on my build page. I double sided taped them and screwed them into the spot on the headlights where the OEM headlights mount them. The ignitors are mounted there too.

The relay I mounted vertically as instructed to a hole I drilled by the fuse box and mounted with a rivet.

Yoshoobaroo 05-27-2020 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0 (Post 3335393)
I double sided taped them and screwed them into the spot on the headlights where the OEM headlights mount them.

That’s usually my favorite spot for them.

Quote:

The ignitors are mounted there too.
Separate ignitors are still a thing?

Irace86.2.0 05-27-2020 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Yoshoobaroo (Post 3335399)
Separate ignitors are still a thing?

They are for the Morimoto TRS kit.

Will BRZ 12-03-2020 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0 (Post 3334736)
H7 can be used, but the housings are made for D2H, so the H7 bulb doesn't fit well. No OEM DxS bulb will fit because of the bulk to the bulbs and the housing.

Buy a HID kit for D2H with an H7 power adapter and a standard relay kit (not a canbus adapter).

Which one of these two would you recommend?

https://www.vland-official.com/produ...-12v-55w-6000k

https://www.diodedynamics.com/d2h-hi...rsion-kit.html

Or is there another kit you think works best? Looking for a kit that comes with everything I need and bulbs would be preferred, but I can also get my own. Only have the Vland headlights installed so far.

Thanks!

Irace86.2.0 12-03-2020 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Will BRZ (Post 3390017)
Which one of these two would you recommend?

https://www.vland-official.com/produ...-12v-55w-6000k

https://www.diodedynamics.com/d2h-hi...rsion-kit.html

Or is there another kit you think works best? Looking for a kit that comes with everything I need and bulbs would be preferred, but I can also get my own. Only have the Vland headlights installed so far.

Thanks!

Some people find the cheap ones just as good as the expensive ones. It is really up to you. I bought a Morimoto kit from theretrofitsource.

Will BRZ 12-03-2020 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0 (Post 3390043)
Some people find the cheap ones just as good as the expensive ones. It is really up to you. I bought a Morimoto kit from theretrofitsource.

Got it. Assuming this one?

https://www.theretrofitsource.com/d2...D2H?quantity=1

Big price difference than the Diode Dynamics one lol may just go with Vland one.

Irace86.2.0 12-03-2020 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Will BRZ (Post 3390076)
Got it. Assuming this one?

https://www.theretrofitsource.com/d2...D2H?quantity=1

Big price difference than the Diode Dynamics one lol may just go with Vland one.


That link was just the bulbs. This is the full ballasts n bulbs n harness:


https://www.theretrofitsource.com/d2...D2H?quantity=1


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