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jflogerzi 05-20-2020 08:42 PM

Recall harbor freight jackstands
 
I am posting in the main thread to get more visabilty. Please see the link for details but I figure alot of us wrench on cars and good number probably have these stands

https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-cul...of-collapsing/

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DarkPira7e 05-20-2020 09:02 PM

Thank you for this! Glad I don't have these

AKITA 05-21-2020 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkPira7e (Post 3333212)
Thank you for this! Glad I don't have these

Thank you .. I knew I should never have trusted those.. glad they didn't kill me

Celica00 05-21-2020 02:23 PM

That's one of my worst fears. Thanks for the PSA

jflogerzi 05-21-2020 02:30 PM

Yea it caught me off guard. I need to check to see if mine are affected. Not sure what brand to trust now. Wish I had the money for those fancy quick jacks [emoji1787]

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PetrolioBenzina 05-21-2020 02:45 PM

China! No thanks.

alphasaur 05-21-2020 02:47 PM

My car is jacked up on these right now.

Cool.

MJones_RB 05-21-2020 03:59 PM

Jack stands are the one thing you don't want to skimp out on. Ever try to push a car off the top of you?

https://i.imgur.com/qYG2Jdg.jpg

soundman98 05-22-2020 12:02 AM

people genuinely only leave 1 failure point, purchased at the lowest cost, by a company well known to produce with the lowest bidder between them and 3,000 pounds of metal?

HF should really change their name to Darwin Tools..

alphasaur 05-22-2020 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by MJones_RB (Post 3333440)
Jack stands are the one thing you don't want to skimp out on. Ever try to push a car off the top of you?

https://i.imgur.com/qYG2Jdg.jpg

Story time :popcorn:

jflogerzi 05-22-2020 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by alphasaur (Post 3333612)
Story time :popcorn:

Agreed

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Th3rdSun 05-22-2020 01:08 PM

I can't fuck with Harbor Freight. I know some of their stuff is ok,but just as a general rule,I can't cheap out on tools. I bought a set of socket from them once,it while the sockets themselves were decent,the packaging was pure trash.

Also,the nearest one to me is kind of out of the way,so it would be one thing if it were close.

WNDSRFR 05-22-2020 03:41 PM

I have these jack stands but I'm not really worried about them. The chassis on this car is so stiff that if one jack collapsed, you probably wouldn't even notice.
To this day it freaks me out when I jack up one corner of the car and practically the whole car rises.

PetrolioBenzina 05-22-2020 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by WNDSRFR (Post 3333750)
I have these jack stands but I'm not really worried about them. The chassis on this car is so stiff that if one jack collapsed, you probably wouldn't even notice.
To this day it freaks me out when I jack up one corner of the car and practically the whole car rises.

Seems soundman is right about "Darwin Tools".

FRSBRZGT86FAN 05-22-2020 09:40 PM

Thats absurd a full 8+ years of sales to realize something is amok with the stands, HF better start qcing production batches better imo.

AKITA 05-22-2020 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by FRSBRZGT86FAN (Post 3333862)
Thats absurd a full 8+ years of sales to realize something is amok with the stands, HF better start qcing production batches better imo.

Ain't the first time I've been bit by em.. just glad I'm not dead, but I did check my serial # 69597 and it's not on the list I believe. But gonna have to be a little more selective in the future on certain things like that..especially safety weight bearing items

extrashaky 05-22-2020 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by FRSBRZGT86FAN (Post 3333862)
Thats absurd a full 8+ years of sales to realize something is amok with the stands, HF better start qcing production batches better imo.

QC should have caught the problem. However, notice that all the articles talk about potential failure, not an actual failure. It may have gone that long without being detected because the stands didn't actually fail for that long. Or at all.

Impureclient 05-22-2020 10:31 PM

Just a reminder for us all that we shouldn't be relying on any 1 item to hold thousands of lbs from dropping on us. I always leave the floor jack there and use the stands in tandem.
Since it came up I wasn't aware that we could buy ANYTHING like this any more that wasn't made in China or other place that gets manufactured for the lowest bid.

soundman98 05-23-2020 12:16 AM

i saw in my newsfeed somewhere that HF released a statement that they've had 11
minor injuries reported, with zero fatalities attributed to these jack stands.

https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-cul...d-jack-stands/

notice that the statement specifies that because of those 11 injuries, HF has chosen to play it safe and recall ALL jack stands produced by a specific factory, despite the fact that only a small percentage actually have the problem.

and AvE did a quick video last night about this as well. as usual, i think he brought up some fair points, first of which is that HF, despite their cheapness has still chosen to recall these jacks--many other companies would call 11 injuries a low margin of error...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mBsNd9PMh0

jflogerzi 05-23-2020 12:25 AM

Checked my 3tons and they are not aprt of the recall. Need to do some work soon

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NARFALICIOUS 05-23-2020 05:10 PM

Thanks for posting this, i have the 3-ton part number. I wonder if anyone knows if they already have the replacement available?

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Originally Posted by soundman98 (Post 3333593)
people genuinely only leave 1 failure point, purchased at the lowest cost, by a company well known to produce with the lowest bidder between them and 3,000 pounds of metal?

HF should really change their name to Darwin Tools..

another reason to weight reduction :D

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Originally Posted by extrashaky (Post 3333871)
QC should have caught the problem. However, notice that all the articles talk about potential failure, not an actual failure. It may have gone that long without being detected because the stands didn't actually fail for that long. Or at all.

the Harbor freight notice says "...while under load and with a shift in weight..."


People put down Harbor Freight but not everyone can afford all tool truck prices, even as a professional technician, spending 10-20k on tools is absurd for a profession with average salary below 40k.

no one will know how the 11 injured people got it to occur, but how does the weight shift ? using all your might on a big prybar to some pain-in-the-asz suspension ? banging on a brake drum? friend messing around and shaking the vehicle?

after putting the weight on stands, I always position the floor jack under something, tight and in place to support the weight. I also use tires or other large/strong objects as back ups in case the jack stand fails---why...because It doesn't matter how much you paid for something, it can still fail. Just because you don't hear about a recall on some more high end jack stands, doesn't mean they have never failed.

soundman98 05-23-2020 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by NARFALICIOUS (Post 3334089)
...no one will know how the 11 injured people got it to occur, but how does the weight shift ? using all your might on a big prybar to some pain-in-the-asz suspension ? banging on a brake drum? friend messing around and shaking the vehicle?


in the rust belt, sledge hammers and grinders are part of the routine maintenance tool package. along with that one buddy that believes if a 5 pound sledge is good, a 10 pound sledge will remove that plastic clip even faster...

Atmo 05-25-2020 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by NARFALICIOUS (Post 3334089)
Thanks for posting this, i have the 3-ton part number. I wonder if anyone knows if they already have the replacement available?


I called the closest one today. They had the replacements but ran out exchanging for the recall part. They offered a choice of a HF gift card that can be used for the replacements whatever the price.

FRSapex 05-26-2020 03:09 PM

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YamahaR86 05-26-2020 05:02 PM

I'm one to cheap out on tools and if it breaks it means I used it more often than I thought and need a better one so I'll get a quality one.



I also don't cheap on on stuff that will inflict a lot of injury to me. Had a cheap drill bit snap on me and almost injured my already ugly face.



That said, I agree with Impureclient and use multiple devices when I'm under the car. Using the Jack Stand, Lift, and if I took a wheel off I'm putting it under the car and using wheel chocks.

Atmo 07-07-2020 06:52 PM

Some of the replacements were recalled:


https://www.autoblog.com/2020/07/07/...usaolp00000618

nashcarr 07-07-2020 08:17 PM

Mine are not on the recall list, but I am taking them back this week for a refund anyway

Atmo 07-07-2020 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by nashcarr (Post 3347342)
Mine are not on the recall list, but I am taking them back this week for a refund anyway

Me too.

I always use a floor jack extended and touching as close to the center of mass as possible wishfully thinking that if one of the stands breaks, the car/truck might stay balanced long enough to slide out on my creeper.

Except that I just realized that my floor jack is the same Pittsburgh brand as the crap jack stands. Time to go shopping.

soundman98 07-07-2020 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Atmo (Post 3347353)
Me too.

I always use a floor jack extended and touching as close to the center of mass as possible wishfully thinking that if one of the stands breaks, the car/truck might stay balanced long enough to slide out on my creeper.

Except that I just realized that my floor jack is the same Pittsburgh brand as the crap jack stands. Time to go shopping.

but if you really dig into where all jackstands/jacks are made, it's really only a few factories that just slap different paint/stickers on the exact same thing.

Spuds 07-08-2020 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Atmo (Post 3347353)
Me too.

I always use a floor jack extended and touching as close to the center of mass as possible wishfully thinking that if one of the stands breaks, the car/truck might stay balanced long enough to slide out on my creeper.

Except that I just realized that my floor jack is the same Pittsburgh brand as the crap jack stands. Time to go shopping.

The jacks are fine. If they fail (which I haven't ever heard of them failing), they fail well before you get under the car. Probably even before you get it in the air. I have one and will continue to use it.

NoHaveMSG 07-08-2020 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Spuds (Post 3347559)
The jacks are fine. If they fail (which I haven't ever heard of them failing), they fail well before you get under the car. Probably even before you get it in the air. I have one and will continue to use it.

I have 4 I am still using.

humfrz 07-08-2020 04:36 PM

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Didn't used to have problems with that store bought stuff back in the day - :iono:

Spuds 07-08-2020 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 3347568)
Didn't used to have problems with that store bought stuff back in the day - :iono:

Lol that looks like just the body lifted off the frame. Still heavy AF, but not quite a whole car.

humfrz 07-08-2020 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Spuds (Post 3347581)
Lol that looks like just the body lifted off the frame. Still heavy AF, but not quite a whole car.

Hell, ya could build a house on top of that structure. The foundation for the house my father was born in had stacked up limestone rocks for a foundation.

:D


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