Mighty Car Mods new Project
 

My favourite youtube channel has a new project.
Beside Moog being overly dramatic about the lack of power, this could be an interesting series to watch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11BwtR83vMI

Coyoda turbo kit? (turbo Yoda designed it)

I was so excited to see (not an 86) roll in their garage. Huge fan of this channel. The way they made fun of it is funny cuz its all true.

They were exaggerating. They purposely stayed in the torque dip when they did their on street pulls. The only revved it to 7000 twice, and never actually went to redline. Not once did they downshift up to ~5000RPM to do a pull.

I love the satire with this channel, huge fan of the spirit in this channel ( same with Speed Academy). I do agree that they do their best to highlight a specific characteristic and do their best to avoid the workarounds, but that's what makes things interesting.

Just like if you're trying to take a beautiful photo of your car, you wouldn't take photos of it from ugly angles and post those; this is no different. Excited to see where they get with it.

First thought: It was the cheapest 2013 in Sydney despite meticulous service records and no obvious flaws. This could get interesting.

I'm a long time fan but I felt is was more 'staged and acted' than usual. A bit like how the old Top Gear used to set up a test; first burn a car to the ground and than conclude that it's actually not that bad after all.

The whole 'I hate these cars' 'They have no power' It doesn't accelerate at all' 'The engine sounds like a shit' was a bit over the top imo.
Also the acting during 'accelerating' (while low rev shifting) had me cringing.

disclaimer: I am biased and feel unreasonably defensive when someone disses a twin.

TBF, stock, the engine DOES sound like shit....

Meh, I wouldn't say they sound like shit. I've had cars that sound way worse than a stock twin. I've also had cars that sound much better stock.
There is room for improvement for sure but I think that was the whole point of this platform when they designed it.

I'll put my vote in the "OEM exhaust is pants" category.

That said, the obvious short shifting under WOT and then claiming it was slow had me like WTF?! Why do you feel the need to tilt the scales for sake of confirmation bias? It doesn't need any help being slow! lol

I had a Celica GT (with the pedestrian 1ZZ-FE) before my BRZ and that sounded far better than the stock BRZ. It didn't take me long to start looking for aftermarket exhausts and intakes (the latter of which created its own issues).

For a NA car meant to evoke nostalgic memories of pure, revvy NA goodness, the stock engine just doesn't sound pleasing (the rest of the package is great though, don't get me wrong).

I don't get why everyone makes a big deal of it not being fast.
No it's not fast compared to... What, a Corvette, Supra, GolfR? But I can probably find a lot more slower cars than faster cars on the road. Impreza, Corolla, Civic, Pilot, Accent, Santa Fe, and the list goes on.

Maybe they think it "looks" fast because it vaguely resembles other cars that are faster? The fact that it's small, proportioned properly for an F-R, designed for low drag and roll moment, and looks pleasing to the eye means it's actually a very good car for the purpose of having fun while driving, slipped into (or in many cases under) a market normally reserved for "fast" versions of slower cars.

Compared to cars in it's price range, I would say it's faster than average, slower than a few. Compared to all the other purpose-built sports cars, yes it's slow. But it's also the cheapest modern one you can get less a Miata by my reckoning, which is also not fast.

It should smoke the stock Superturbo unless they cheat.

you know they are going to boost it and explode the engine

Specifically they will supercharge it. Which kit will they use...

Orrrrrrrr TurboYoda’s Coyoda turbo kit...

LOL

I love this show

These guys are funny, and say what they think, which is refreshing.

And yes, these things sound shit when stock and as slow as a glacier getting up to speed.

Tuned they are better

Turboed, they are awesomeballs

Yeah, I can see a turbo

There's plenty of crashed turbo twins at the local wreckers and auctions

That's were my 17 went after backing it onto a wall at speed

LOL

I bet a bag of donuts the Super turbo wins a drag race

I'll pay up when they open WSID to the gen-pop after the apocalypse

The March Super Turbo does 7.7s and 15.5s in 0-60 and 1/4 mile. The BRZ does 6.3s and 14.9s. Top speed is 112 vs 143 mph.

They would have to cheat.

I like how mine sounds stock......

1/8 mile maybe

The twins are as slow as a snail to get going

We shall see

Either way, if your not their to claim your prize, the donuts will go in my belly

Harrop is local to them, that makes the most sense to me if they went S/C

I feel like this topic has been hashed to death. No doubt the Twins are "slow" cars stock, but there are plenty of other slow cars I'd happily drive and/or track. Miata, RX-8, S2000, Integra Type-R, RSX-S, 987.1 Cayman, 986 Boxster...they all run 14 or 15 second 1/4 miles and guess what else... they are all sub-3000 lbs and great to drive.

I've had the chance to track a few 400-500whp cars and sure it's fun powering out of corners and accelerating down the straight, but it's equally fun to me chucking a lightweight car into corners or carving up back roads in a small chassis.

Who knows maybe this is their grand epiphany in the final episode (or not), but regardless there's such a misplaced emphasis on horsepower and 60/quarter mile times these days you'd think the only fun you could have in a car is flooring it in a straight line.

This is where I get confused, more power is always better, whilst a car can handle well around a corner there are alot of straight sections In between them, you need to get to the corner quicker than everyone else.

Unless you are in a one make series or racing against yourself, constantly being passed on the straight bits gets tiresome.

This is why a little turbo and around 250 - 300hp in one is awesomeballs, and stock cars are moving traffic cones that get in the way.

Opinions may vary

Yeah on a track 100 percent agree you can never have too much power.

The problem is at the price point we're discussing, you have to sacrifice weight and size to get power. Under $30k (or even $60k) there are no sub-3000 lbs cars with 300+ hp. You have to step up to something like a cayman/boxster s to get there, and those are $60k+ cars.

My issue is the video made it seem like "slow cars" can't be fun, and I would absolutely disagree. I actually think some of the slow cars I listed are among the most fun I've driven, not because they lacked power but in spite of it.

Yeah agree. Also the S15 that they talk about in the video, stock to stock has about the same straight line performance as a twin. You can probably get more power out of an S15 tuning it being a turbo though. If the 86/BRZ was around in the late 90’s early 2000s it would’ve been a direct competitor to an S15 and considered “quickish”. But nowadays with so much power in hot hatches and the like it’s considered slow. It’s definitely quick enough for the street and backroads etc. and yeah tired of defending their straight line performance too. If you don’t like it, don’t buy the f*cking car and complain about it.

I love when popular Youtubers do this kinda thing with our car.

EverydayDriver did the same thing going uphill in the mountains for one of their videos. Like, you could even see they were in 5th gear going 45-ish mph (give or take) at like 2k rpm or whatever (it was obviously in the torque dip), and I remember asking about it on the channel comments and their producer/editor kept defending them saying they were just trying to show the dip to prove how slow it is. *eyeroll*

They were spot on. After owning much faster cars and directly stepping in to this it probably does feel quite horrible. The "dip" is definitely noticeable from a rolling 1st or 2nd gear acceleration and there is no way to really "just downshift" like so many people say in those situations.

Great episode of MCM. Hopefully there is some boost coming soon and they skip NA stuff altogether.

They do a lot of engine swaps I can see them doing a 6 cylinder swap or something. Turbo and Superchargers are over done,they will be just like every other channel that did a turbo or SC kit, they even made fun of those channels so I don't see them doing Forced Induction.

Hopefully they do something interesting

Where are you guys getting info on this Coyoda turbo kit? I can't find a website for them or anything.

Type "coyoda frs" in to the google search bar. First link is to a thread on this forum. That link is followed by others with more info.

Obviously, I know about the thread on the forum. It doesn't seem to have a single link to the manufacturer website or really anything other than some pics of the kit installed on one guy's car.

I am really trying to find the Coyoda website with details on pricing and ordering the kit. Maybe they don't have one.

It seems like this is a very small company and the kit is still in preproduction.

It looks like the kit may have died before making it to production. I can't find anything from Coyoda or Turbo Yoda regarding the kit post 2016. It's an amazing design, though. I'm certain from looking at the design it would have significantly less lag than any other turbo kit on the market.

https://www.facebook.com/51871207163...1954149973292/

https://www.facebook.com/51871207163...9096296592410/

There is a ton of info on the FB page. Multiple kits look to have been developed and sold. The Facebook page from "turbo yoda" in the original comment suggesting to search "coyoda frs" leads right to their site with a link.

it is an amazingly well packaged design, thought out by someone who truly understands how a turbocharger works (Mechanically AND thermally). If they can bring it to market it would be the best turbo kit for the platform, period.

Well when you are in a city with a lot of other people, your daily driving thrills come in 1/8th mile increments if you are lucky, and not a lot of that is particularly curvy/fast.

The page says "contact us now to get yours." That post was made in 2017 though..

This is the FB page you are talking about?
https://www.facebook.com/theturboyod...1740281935935/

I must not be seeing the link you are referring to on that FB page.

Yeah it's just different cars for different roads. I can appreciate a Hellcat or Demon if you only lived where roads were straight or you visited the drag strip often.

Conversely I could appreciate a Miata or Lotus Exige if you lived close to a lot of windy roads or routinely visited the track.

Or a jeep wrangler if you had good off-road trails nearby.

Or a GSXR-1000 or etc.

I would hope any car journalist/enthusiast could find things to appreciate about any vehicle that was built with fun in mind, as opposed to just harping on things they're bad at. But maybe that's expecting too much, I dunno.