2022 Nissan Z Coupe
 

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May 26, 2021
2022 Nissan Z Spied Testing On The Street In Colorado
https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/at.../0001-jpg.775/

May 14, 2021
Nissan Z spotted testing in Arizona
https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/at...955_n-jpg.737/

Apr 1, 2021
The Nissan Z Proto Spotted on Public Streets while heading to Nashville Cars & Coffee!
https://youtu.be/zZAHXL1GYeM

Apr 6, 2021
2022 Nissan Z Spied in Silver Again (@ Arizona)
https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/at..._9001-jpg.747/

Apr 6, 2021
Next Nissan Z Will Have Blue Interior Option Like the Original 240Z
https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/at...3-jpg-jpg.752/

Mar 25, 2021
2022 Nissan Z - inside scoop details: MSRP pricing, packages, power (hp), weight, transmission + more
https://www.supramkv.com/attachments/zspecs-jpg.42850/

Mar 22, 2021
Production 400Z Spotted in Gray and Silver! – Pics & Videos
https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/at...532-3-jpg.746/

Sep 15, 2020
Nissan Z Proto (400Z) Official Specs, Wallpapers, Photos, Videos
https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/at...oto-1-jpg.137/

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a3...z-future-2021/

It's (probably) happening!

Something to be excited about, though a base price that's $40k instead of $30k seems like a really bad idea. If it does end up having a 400 hp V6 I get the case for a price increase - kinda. But it would not help sales at all IMO.

I'd rather they keep the power similar and make the car lighter/simpler/smaller (or same size).

Why does that render look like a Hyundai front end grafted onto an Audi TT?

Don’t get excited just yet. For years various Nissan execs and media outlets have hinted at a new Z, but nothing has happened. Rumour is the Z35 project has been spun up, stalled, canned and spun up again multiple times. But the Nissan board keep chickening out, because of the risk and poor ROI.

I’m waiting for a) official concept cars at motor shows, b) multiple verified prototypes seen testing, and c) official press releases from Nissan confirming the Z35 is coming.

Without that, all the speculative articles are just more hype and noise. Been happening for years and still no new Z yet.

If you've been paying attention to the news at all, Nissan is in a world of hurt right now financially so I would not be surprised if they put on hold or cancel non-essential projects like low-volume sports cars...

The converse to what you said is that Nissan won’t change in light of their situation. They may stay on path not knowing what else to do. The next Z could be seen as a necessary risk that is needed to refresh the model and the brand. They could see what Toyota and Honda have done with the 86, Type R and Supra and realize they are behind the ball. The Z and GTR are old. New design language usually trickles down from sports cars and flagships, so a new Z might be necessary.

Toyota has played it safe with the 86 and Supra by collaborating with Subaru and BMW, respectively, to keep costs down. Honda has modified their 2.0T in the Civic Type R to be used in the Accord and built that sports car on a platform that sells in high volumes, so their costs aren’t too high. Nissan will likely do the same with their Z by using an existing engine, but their costs will likely still be higher because the Z isn’t a collaboration, nor is its body shared across platforms like the Civics.

The fact that they are testing a new car with an old Z shell is evidence enough that a new sports car is likely coming.

Then again that sort of death by austerity is exactly how Nissan ended up in this place. They’ve been cost cutting and cost cutting for a decade, and it’s deeply hurt them

Agreed. I don’t know if Mitsubishi is the best analogy, but they seemed to cut themselves into obscurity (even before Nissan owned them). The strategy doesn’t appear to be improving their sales. Just for comparison: they sold 121k vehicles in the US in 2019; Tesla sold 540k, which is more than Mitsubishi has ever sold in a single year in the US, and Teslas are luxury cars.

Nissan needs reinvigorate the brand. They have the history and capacity.

If Nissan still exists 5 years from now I will be really, REALLY surprised.


Just their leadership issues alone could be the end of the brand.

Nissan lost it's way. They used to make relatively decent Toyota alternatives. Now just garbage

2022 Nissan Z Coupe
 

Artist render: I hope it looks better than this!
https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/Jr...c254c13eb8cd14

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a3...z-future-2021/

Is this a thing, or just another render full of hopes and dreams?

I'm still trying to find my next purchase, I'm holding off for another year though because there's "apparently" a few new cars close to release.

I love Z's. They have the best hips.

True, I've almost grabbed one a few times over the years, BUT, the convertible versions, roof up or down, are as ugly as 10 ugly things.

Right from the link
" Our sneak preview of the most exciting cars coming in the next few years draws on knowledge from leaked product-development plans, spy photos, and loose-lipped insiders mixed in with information that has already been officially released."

Translated - "We made this shit up YO"

would love to see some elements of design from these renders!

Way to 13 year old "speed racer" for me.

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and after this pandemic Nissan might just be forced into bankruptcy, never mind launching a new sports car.

The prediction even before all this started was bankruptcy by 2022 so the forecast is grim for them.
The car "news" sites are scrambling for content so articles such as this need to be taken with a massive block of salt.
I haven't looked but I bet if you dig back a couple of months C&D were writing about Nissans impending doom and now they say a new car is coming out?

Yeah but did you get the inferred typo of yours I was referring to? It was the best I could do.

As much as I'd love to see a new 400Z, in the new coronavirus economy, it's hard to see how Nissan would be able to afford the expense of developing a niche car that would have negligible impact on sales. The company has been in progressively worsening financial trouble for years. They have had to implement desperate measures such as eliminating employee travel. When a company is down to scratching for nickels and dimes, I can't imagine they're going to have the money for a new small-volume sports car. The very survival of the company is in question, and they have to focus their limited resources on maximizing revenues and profits on potential big sellers. As much as enthusiasts would love a 400Z, that won't do it.

It's a shame. The Z is an iconic sports car with a storied reputation and history. I looked seriously at the 370Z vs the BRZ, and came very close to buying one. People diss it for being 'old', but it's like buying a brand-new 15 year old sports car - very analog feeling, visceral, great power, and just plain fun. The downsides are terrible visibility and almost no cargo space at all (it's a hatchback, but the space is barely 6 inches deep). Plus most of the Nissan dealers I visited were complete sleaze, which was the final turn off.

And those god awful, over sized, poorly place, ugly as hell door handles!
I also cross shopped them and every time I walked up to one I shuddered at those door handles. Petty complaint yes but still a deal breaker for me.

2021 400Z
 

You forgot its biggest problem. At 8/10ths it feels great and super capable, but if you drive it at the limit it feels like a mess. Suddenly it’s all over the place and you have no idea what the wheels are doing. The twins on the other hand inspire confidence even at 11/10ths.

Oh and the interior. Jesus. The steering wheel is lifted straight from my mom’s 2009 Maxima. The whole interior makes the BRZ feel like a Porsche inside.

It is the drag from those door handles!

I work near, and drive by at least twice a day, Z1 Motorsports so I get to see a lot of modded late model Zs, including two dozen or more in their parking lot.

I just can't bring myself to like them. I loved the 240Z and 280Z. and sort of liked the 300Z. They lost me at the 300ZX though.

right, we haven't even see any camo prototypes driving around. :bellyroll:

350 and 370 z cars are meh at best. Nissan as a company is meh at best. 400z that probably wont happen, meh.

I'll go with the meh for the 350-370 line as well. Never cared for the styling. I had a 91 Z32,, bought it used with 17K on it for $15K. Loved the car. Hatch was great,, I could put a 4x8 sheet of plywood in it. Drove it to 120K miles and maintenance became an issue so sold it.

These ones are my favorite renderings of the 400Z: https://www.motor1.com/news/418986/2...00z-rendering/

There is no way this thing is coming out next year, though. I always liked the 350Z, but I think they went wrong with the 370Z.

It would be great if this does actually come out eventually. It would be awesome to see some real competition in the affordable sports car market (Supra, Z, 86, etc.) There are rumors of a new Mazda sport coupe, too.

???? There was never any 300Z... There was the Z31 300ZX, which was still kinda light (at least not obscenely overweight) but ugly as sin, and the Z32 300ZX, which was drop-dead gorgeous but also way overweight.

240Z is the only Z, for me...
400Z is another step in the wrong direction. Z needs to lose about 500 lb. WAY more than it needs turbos and 400hp...

Nobody cares about lightweight anymore. They just look at the brochure for power figures and 0-60 times.


I briefly looked at a 370z when shopping for the 86. Intially it was tempting, as the base car was the same price. I then I decided against it as it wasn't as practical, and I wanted to check to many boxes which would have inflated the cost.

Rebirth the S chassis with the Z name. Share the car with Mercedes for the SLK (like the X class/Frontier, Z4/Supra, 86/BRZ, Miata/124). It's the only way to make an affordable new sports car these days. A light turbo4 Z would fit with the times.

Alas Nissan hasn't made any good decisions in 15 years. Not gonna magically start happening now.

Well, technically you are correct. I was thinking of the Z31 First gen ZX) which still looked a little like the 240/280 before it overdid the steroids and morphed into whatever the Z32 was supposed to be. I personally consider the Z31 the last "Z" because you could still see the lineage a little bit.

Z31 wasn't the "first gen ZX"! The S130 280ZX replaced the S30 280Z in 1979.

While the 280ZX did look somewhat like the S30 Zs, the Z31 300ZX doesn't look anything at all like them! The much shorter V6 engine eliminate the need for an extremely long hoo and way set-forward front wheels. Not necessarily a bad thing, but the 80s squaretastic styling was bad when new and has not aged well at all... The Z32 was a MUCH better-looking car, but weight jacked up to 3400-3600 lb., yikes...

Yeah that Skyline GT-R, what a meh vehicle [emoji848]
Nissan has lost their way due to a lot of factors, extreme mismanagement one of them. But they have over the years produced some of the very best sports cars from Japan. I mean Toyota has never had a real answer to the Skyline GT-R. The Supra used to be in that class, but not any more. [emoji853]
I for one hope Nissan can get back to their roots.


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I'm not a Z historian nor a really true fan, it was just my personal opinion, so I'll defer to your greater knowledge and leave it at "I know what I like when I see it, and that's where it stopped"

Nissan basically became dead to me when they decided to tease but never produce the MID-4.

Nissan overall as a company, ESPECIALLY TODAY, meh.

Have they put out some good cars, undoubtedly... but the 70s and 90s are a long time ago. Even the R35 is a great car but... it's not the same.

That blue render is gorgeous.


Having owned a 350z, I can't really disagree with you. On paper, the 350z (and especially the 370z) should be pretty amazing cars. RWD, V6, 280-333 hp, 3200-3400 lbs, double-wishbone suspension F/R, V-LSD, 53/47 weight distribution. In reality, they somehow don't drive as well as they should. Interior is dated, engine feels rough, the driving position is not great, big blind spots, car feels heavy, etc. They're not bad cars, just not as good as they should be.

Exactly how I feel. On paper they both sound like a slam dunk.

I never drove the 350Z when it came out but I always really liked it. When I was looking for a sports car in 2016 I found a low mileage 2005 Performance. It looked perfect, well maintained, only 30K on the clock, and the exact spec I wanted.

I drove it and lost all interest in the car. Drove a 370 to see if it was better but it was mostly the same. Very capable but not very confidence inspiring, not as exciting as it should be.

I drove a BRZ and after 2 hard turns I turned back to the dealership and said I'll take it.