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timurrrr 04-24-2020 03:24 PM

Kenwood DDX920WDABS
 
Now that it's 2020 (yuck!..), I was wondering if Kenwood continued their DDX9{YY}WS series of 200mm head units, and indeed there's some info on DDX920WS online:
http://www.albanycarstereo.com.au/sh...t/kw-ddx920ws/
Highlights:
  • 200mm Perfect Fit for most toyota’s 2003+ (and BRZ with trim pieces like this)
  • Wireless Apple CarPlay (Supported devices)
  • [strike]Wireless Android Auto (Supported devices)[/strike]

I personally love my DDX918WS, and a lot of folks enjoy their DDX917WS and DDX919WS.

The downsides are that these only seem to be available in/from Australia (I got mine from Amazon in the US though) and they are pricey (but work so well I think it's worth it).

timurrrr 04-25-2020 05:51 PM

Looks like the correct product name is DDX920WDABS
https://www.kenwood.com/au/car/visua...n/ddx920wdabs/
... and it doesn't have wireless Android Auto :(

deku 04-25-2020 07:08 PM

i think they have the ddx920wdabs for this year

solidONE 04-25-2020 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timurrrr (Post 3323663)
Now that it's 2020 (yuck!..), I was wondering if Kenwood continued their DDX9{YY}WS series of 200mm head units, and indeed there's some info on DDX920WS online:
http://www.albanycarstereo.com.au/sh...t/kw-ddx920ws/
Highlights:
  • 200mm Perfect Fit for most toyota’s 2003+ (and BRZ with trim pieces like this)
  • Wireless Apple CarPlay (Supported devices)
  • [strike]Wireless Android Auto (Supported devices)[/strike]

I personally love my DDX918WS, and a lot of folks enjoy their DDX917WS and DDX919WS.

The downsides are that these only seem to be available in/from Australia (I got mine from Amazon in the US though) and they are pricey (but work so well I think it's worth it).

Damn that price... curse it to hell

gpvecchi 04-26-2020 04:59 AM

Mine is on its way, but it seems stuck because of Covid...

gpvecchi 04-28-2020 05:03 AM

If someone finds a DVD region hack, please post it...

Irace86.2.0 05-01-2020 09:20 PM

I have the 19'.

What's new? Not looking to upgrade, but if it is the same then maybe last year's models would be worth searching for to save some $$$ for anyone who is in the market.

Irace86.2.0 05-01-2020 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by solidONE (Post 3324143)
Damn that price... curse it to hell

It is $769 USD. That was AUD, in case you didn't know.

solidONE 05-01-2020 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0 (Post 3326237)
It is $769 USD. That was AUD, in case you didn't know.

Bless thee and ye family my son. Did not realize that. Much more reasonable, but still on the high side.

Irace86.2.0 05-01-2020 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by solidONE (Post 3326281)
Bless thee and ye family my son. Did not realize that. Much more reasonable, but still on the high side.

Like I said, there might be old models with identical features that are discounted.

gpvecchi 05-02-2020 04:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0 (Post 3326235)
I have the 19'.

What's new? Not looking to upgrade, but if it is the same then maybe last year's models would be worth searching for to save some $$$ for anyone who is in the market.

DAB in example...

Irace86.2.0 05-02-2020 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gpvecchi (Post 3326346)
DAB in example...

https://automotivesuperstore.com.au/kenwood-ddx919ws

gpvecchi 05-03-2020 05:06 AM

DDX919WS looks doesn't have DAB...

Artalos 05-14-2020 10:19 AM

Where to buy? All Aussie shops only deliver within Australia... has somebody an idea?

gpvecchi 06-04-2020 06:45 PM

Guys, I have issues with Pixel 4: Android auto, wired and wireless, works fine, but Display Mirroring works just wired; I don't have the mirroring option in device bluetooth settings, just handsfree and ad2p.
Any hint?

timurrrr 06-04-2020 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gpvecchi (Post 3338436)
Guys, I have issues with Pixel 4: Android auto, wired and wireless, works fine, but Display Mirroring works just wired; I don't have the mirroring option in device bluetooth settings, just handsfree and ad2p.
Any hint?

I vaguely remember that "Display Mirroring" requires the phone to support a certain protocol that most Android phones don't support.

sharpsicle 06-04-2020 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gpvecchi (Post 3338436)
Guys, I have issues with Pixel 4: Android auto, wired and wireless, works fine, but Display Mirroring works just wired; I don't have the mirroring option in device bluetooth settings, just handsfree and ad2p.
Any hint?

IIRC Screen Mirroring is not done via Bluetooth but through casting. To mirror to car systems, all the documentation I'm finding says to plug it in via USB.

You could probably get around this by hooking up a Chromecast to the HDMI input, and mirroring to that device.

https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel..._incapability/

https://www.t-mobile.com/support/dev...able%20devices.

https://support.google.com/chromecas...17945559?hl=en

gpvecchi 06-05-2020 04:34 AM

DDX920WDABS has wireless mirroring, but it doesn't have an HDMI port...

sharpsicle 06-05-2020 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gpvecchi (Post 3338563)
DDX920WDABS has wireless mirroring, but it doesn't have an HDMI port...

Read the support articles I linked. Pixel 4 looks for Cast devices for mirroring. Just because the headunit claims to be wireless mirror capable doesn't mean the phone works with it.

The Kenwood's spec sheet even says
Quote:

Wireless Mirroring for Android
Wireless Mirroring is a groundbreaking solution for seamlessly displaying and controlling your smartphone apps on a 9 series screen without cables or a network connection on selected Android devices.

gpvecchi 06-06-2020 04:09 AM

I read it, this doesn't help, they are just general infos took from manuals. As wireless Android auto works, cast had to work too.
For those who own this unit, wireless AP has different name for Android Auto and Mirroring, do you agree? I can't access to the one for casting, it says wrong password...

sharpsicle 06-06-2020 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gpvecchi (Post 3338826)
I read it, this doesn't help, they are just general infos took from manuals. As wireless Android auto works, cast had to work too.

What those should be telling you is that Android Auto is a different protocol from Screen Mirroring. They don't operate the same way, and the Pixel phones do not support the protocol type that allows them to screen mirror to all capable devices. Timurrr was pretty spot-on with his reply earlier as well
Quote:

Originally Posted by timurrrr (Post 3338437)
I vaguely remember that "Display Mirroring" requires the phone to support a certain protocol that most Android phones don't support.

Phones like LG and Samsung have shown fewer compatibility issues with screen mirroring than the Pixel line. Why? Well the idea behind this is Google dropping Miracast support on their hardware. What this means for the end user on Pixel phones is that if it's not a true Google Cast device that you're trying to mirror to, it probably isn't going to work. This is why many posts across the web suggest using a Chromecast on an HDMI port to get around the issue, and why Google's own support staff in one of those links (basically) says it's Chromecast or bust with the Pixel line. The Kenwood unit isn't a Google device, so likely it's using a variant of the Miracast protocol, not Google Cast. You need that type of connection for Pixel to work with it. Unfortunately like you said, this headunit doesn't have an HDMI input, so adding a Chromecast with a local hotspot isn't an option here.

Android Auto isn't a cast protocol, it's independent of that. This is because Android Auto is run through a specific Google app that allows the communication to work. Mirroring doesn't. Because of this, they can ensure Android Auto works across virtually any device. They have much better control over the connection and protocols, which means a stable, uniform experience across virtually any device. That's the true selling point of it, and where the bulk of Google's development and support sits. Screen mirroring is significantly less important to them, and as such is just a root system service that doesn't get much attention, and is limited.

From a personal perspective, I as the driver of the car can't see why I'd want my phone to wirelessly mirror to a headunit automatically at startup. Passenger, ok perhaps. But 9 times out of 10 I want the optimized Android Auto interface to be the one booting up over wireless. If someone in the passenger seat needs to do more, they can just plug in and off they go. I personally don't tailor my car to the experience of the passengers, I tailor it to mine as the driver. They can deal with those things. Having said all that, if there's a specific thing or app you want to be able to do that Android Auto doesn't do for you, there could be workarounds tailored to that specifically.

I am genuinely trying to help here. I hope I'm not coming across rudely in all this. As with all tech, things could change, but as of now this is a common question for Pixel users, and it always seems to have the same answer: Chromecast.

timurrrr 06-09-2020 04:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sharpsicle (Post 3338883)
From a personal perspective, I as the driver of the car can't see why I'd want my phone to wirelessly mirror to a headunit automatically at startup.

Until Harry's Lap Timer and/or RaceChrono have proper Android Auto support, it would be cool to be able to cast the screen of a native app on the head unit at the track. Alas, we're not there either...

e30cabrio 06-18-2020 04:33 PM

I just ordered the DDX919WS from Malaysia. Could not find anyone that would sell me the 920.

Anyone find a DVD region hack?

Found this, it's for home units but maybe?

http://www.dvddemystifiziert.de/code...n/kenwood.html

e30cabrio 06-20-2020 09:53 AM

3 Attachment(s)
Looking at videos about the DDX919 it seems the connector we use for XM radios is different and in one the Australian guy says they don't use it. I have a Kenwood DVD/NAV/media museum in my garage (5 units going back 10 years) So I disassembled the oldest (DNX891HD) & the first thing I see is it's optical drive which is the solution to the DVD region issue (the one I got is 3)

If this fits, I'm done, even if it doesn't I can get an optical drive from a current US unit that I'm sure will work.

Unfortunately, the XM socket is soldered on the PCB on the 891 so that's a no go BUT I found a 64gb Sony sd card I forgot abut that's been in there forever so that's cool!








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e30cabrio 06-23-2020 10:19 AM

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My 919 came yesterday, I tried to flash the Maestro and it does not have the model & won't accept the serial number in a similar 2019 US Kenwood.

Per iDatalink it's not compatible with Kenwood DDX919WS

Carbon in Australia makes a harness and will sell it.

How did you guys integrate it to your cars?

timurrrr 06-23-2020 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by e30cabrio (Post 3343284)
How did you guys integrate it to your cars?

https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3264936


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