Forza 4 - Scion FR-S Spec Series
 

Hello Everyone,

I would like to invite all of you guys who are interested in Forza 4 to join our small group of friends and start racing the new Scion FR-S. We are planning on hosting a Spec series which right now consists of about 3 events. Everyone is welcome to join us including those who are new to Forza. We plan on making the car Spec for everyone, that way the beginners get a great starting point and everything is fair for everyone.

For those who have not added me to their friends list, please do so using "bneale" for my gamertag.

Let's get to the details

When:

Races are typically held at 9pm EST time / 6PM PST time during the middle of the week. We ask that you join us on Xbox live ahead of time so that we can work out the best schedule for everyone. But this is the best time for both west coast and east coast.

Who we are:

AERL aka Apex Endurance Racing League. The following people have shown interest so far:

bneale
Dragonjet
BigHairyApe
Rocket Hampsters
FearoftheFiat
Allch Chhar
636


The Series:

Right now I would like to try and race 3 tracks. Twin Ring Motegi, Silverstone Grand Prix, and Nurburgring GP. I raced each one of these tracks this morning with the FR-S I built and it was really fast. Quite good for only 15 minutes worth of tuning. The races will end up being about 1 hour in total length. We typically shoot for 1 hour race time or less. Just depends on the track itself.

EDIT: This is the series standings after race number 1. There is still 4 events left in the series.

Pole position: me aka bneale
Best finishing Amateur: Allch

1st place - me aka bneale - Leading the over all series with 11 points.
2nd place - Dragonjet - 8 points total
3rd place - Nihilation - 6 points
4th place - Allch - 6 points
5th place - Jackie Chan - 4 points
6th place - Dr.Vodka - 3 points



The Car - Current Build:

PI: 500 - B Class
Speed: 5.1
Handling: 6.4
Accel: 6.5
Launch: 5.2
Braking: 6.7

206HP
156 ft/lbs of tourque
2588 lbs

Sport Weight Reduction
Race Tires, 255 by 17's all around
Street Ignition
Race Brakes
Race Springs
Race Swaybars front and rear
Race Transmission
Race Differential
Race Rollcage
Street flywheel
Street driveline
Street clutch
Full C-West body kit plus Forza Rear Wing
Enkei RFP1 wheels

The body kit and wheels can be swapped with other kits and wheels of the same weight if you prefer a different look.

Those of you who are interested should join us tonight. We will be testing and tuning the FR-S to find the best setup overall. I think the setup I have right now is pretty stout but I've only had an hour or so to test it.

If you guys have any questions or are interested in joining (beginners are totally welcome) please feel free to post on here or ask me on Xbox live.

I will be online tonight from 9pm EST onward testing this car.

EDIT: I almost forgot to post this. We do have a few racing rules which we will be enforcing for this series. All of the rules have been established over years of Forza playing and seem to work well. I will be explaining the rules over xbox live in person. But if anyone feels they are unfair or just want to ask questions about them, I'm more then willing to listen to suggestions.

bneale

I'm definitely in, my gamertag is STiEX. Only problem, I made the car exact to your specifications, but mine is coming out weighing 2,511 lbs, and is stuck at a PI of 501..any ideas? If I put the stock rear bumper on it lowers it to 500, but my weight drops to 2,508lbs.

So I just slapped some Enkei's on there to bring my weight up to 2,017lbs. I hope that one pound doesn't matter. If it bugs you that much, we can figure out what's going on tonight.

Quick little thing to add, if you want to change the wheels but keep the same weight, the only wheels with the same weight as the Volk TE37's are:

Compmotive CXR
Cragar Bonneville Series 391
Fikse Profil 5
Fikse Profil 5s
Konig Britelite
Mickey Thompson ET Drag
Rota J.SPL
Team Dynamics Pro Race 2
Wedsport SA-70
Weld Alumastar 2.0
Work XD9

Thanks for posting the wheel list. That will be helpful for others. Also, if you have not done so already, make sure you send me a friend request. I will accept it when I get home.

Can you check and see what clutch you put onto the car? I had the stock clutch to shave that 1 point of PI. Also maybe check your flywheel and driveline. Those should be stock also.

I posted my setup from memory (I'm at work right now). But Dragonjet should be around on Xbox live if you want help.

As you mentioned, the stock body parts will allow us to ditch about 4 more lbs. So we may switch this in the future. Right now we just need to test the car though.

bneale

I've got the clutch and flywheel stock, I'm still searching around for it, if worse comes to worse when you get on tonight, let's just run through the mods part by part and make sure we're equal! If you don't mind.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8290/7...5b3db395_z.jpg

Would be interested, but need to troubleshoot a hotel internet connection. lol.

Will you be at the Hotel long? We will probably target next week for the offical race date.

Hopefully your situation is only temporary. Add me to your flist though.

bneale

Could it be wheel width? Are you 255's all around?

I'm looking forward to driving the snot out of the FR-S tonight. I've already warned the girlfriend!

bneale

Yup, I'm 255's all around. :(

I'll go through the setup with you when I get home. For now just enjoy driving the car and work on setups for Nurburgring GP, Motegi Full, and Silverstone Grand Prix.

My setup works well for all 3 tracks but probably can use a bit of fine tuning. I can also help you if you're having a hard time adjusting the car.

bneale

Definitely in for this.

Mind you I'm most likely going to be a novice compared to most of you. But this should be fun regardless if I don't ever come in 1st, 2nd, 3rd, or 5th. :lol:

I appreciate it man, let's run through the stuff tonight. :)


Don't worry, I'm not much of a racer myself, more-so a drifter, so I'm sure I'll be bringing up the back of the pack with ya. :)

Meanwhile, I've been working on a vinyl-copy, just tweaked to my own liking of colors. I'm sure most of you can recognize this design scheme. ;)
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7114/7...9e66da8a_z.jpg

Yep, I'll be there till late December...

Saw your other post, and I did not know that. I'll see if I can work something out, but if I can't, I won't join you guys for the races; I don't want to compromise it, haha. If anything, I'd just use live to get downloadable content and keep my games current

:iono:

This is exactly why I want to get lots of people to join. The hope is we will have players of all skill levels.

Spec Racing is the most fair way to race in Forza and also allows for new players to learn from the regular players. I personally will help anyone who feels they need it. I can tell you now, some of us will be really fast. But I promise to show my race craft to anyone who wants to learn.

Spec racing is also the most fair racing method because it rewards the people who practice and actually try.

bneale

Ha, good to know I won't be alone. And your pic just makes me want to skip the gym tonight and work on the FRS design only. :happy0180:

Good to know, I never thought I would need driving lessons in Forza, but I'm open to it. :thumbsup:

Well, my basic livery is done, just no sponsors added on yet. What do y'all think?

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8291/7...d3c36206_c.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8422/7...a8e7d534_c.jpg

When is someone going to crash it so we know what a wrecked one looks like? :bellyroll:

Can someone post the reduced curb weight for each weight reduction stage? I'm interested.

Thanks

This is just roughly what I remember from this morning.

Stock weight is 2738 lbs

Street weight reduction is about 2660 lbs.

Sport weight reduction is about 2500 lbs

Race weight reduction is just above 2200 lbs.


I really wanted to keep the race weight when I built the spec car, but then you have to sacrafice race tires for sports as well as the wider tires. You'll be on 225 max if you have race weight reduction.

Since the sport tire and race weight combo made the car 6.1 handling, I decided to keep it sport weight and race tires. That gave me the 6.3 handling number.

bneale

You probably don't need a lesson as much as you just need to know a few tricks. For example, if you're racing with manual and clutch, I have a perfect controller setup to make it easy and simple. No silly A -> B or A -> X for me!

You probably just need to work on your line more then anything. I've pretty much mastered all of the tracks already so I can really help with this.

Don't worry about being competitive. It's more important that everyone simply have fun. We want our core group to grow so we can continue with more racing in the future.

bneale

I've been racing on the B-Class circuit online, this car just doesn't have enough horsepower to compete. But around 230HP, the car makes top lap times. I love this car though.

I take that back, just managed 2nd place on Sunset Peninsula vs 240+HP cars, this thing is AMAZING!

Wheels don't get any damages?

I might have to get in on this. Too bad they didnt include the BRZ also.

Are you using my build?

If so, it was not exactly designed for Speed tracks. It was designed around being pure grip.

So yeah, you're not going to win everywhere with just my grip build. But you should do well at all the handling tracks.

bneale

If you want in, add me via xbox live. My gamertag is "bneale".

We will be practicing tonight into the wee hours of the morning!

bneale

Yeah I'm using your build, and even though I don't win on speed tracks, this thing is SO MUCH FUN.

I think thats more of the nature of the car then anything. I found that in Forza, the FR-S handles very much like its real world counter-part. I should know because I've been autocrossing the crap out of my car.

The turn in is AMAZING and sharp. Turn out is also very similar with it being slightly biased towards overstear. Again, this is exactly what the FR-S is like in reality which is what I like best. Sometimes Forza fails on the reality part. But this time it seems pretty accurate.

I'm glad your having fun though. I'll be home in a few hours to join you. At some point, I'll need to break for dinner though. (The girl friend is going to have to pry the controller from my hands!!) :lol:

bneale

@636 You online now? I was just racing with a scion that looks just like yours.

My gamer tag is sunny 360K

Make sure you send me a friend request! I'll ad you to the list of interested people if you like.

bneale

request sent!

Yep still on

Throw me a friend request, I'll most likely hop back in within the hour, just letting it cool down, been playing all day! Those little battles we had on the Nordschleife were freakin' awesome.

No, wheels don't take any damage.

Whats the gamer tag?

STiEX

Guys, please try and keep this thread on topic.

I know your all excited to race the FR-S. But let's keep this thread focused on the series!

Thanks.

bneale

My apologies! One hour-ish left!

I'm logging on now.. this sounds like fun.

Yeah, I get 501 w/ full body kit and Forza rear wing. You running stock diff?

Okay you forgot the race diff, @bneale. Add the race diff and it's 500 with all the aero parts except the rear forza wing. I thought that was missing.

I think a really good way to get good at racing games is (1) choose a car slightly faster than an AI, (2) drive behind the AI as close as you can w/o hitting, (3) try to mimic the path of the AI as much as you can, (4) and don't pass the AI.

Following the AI shouldn't be a problem since your car is faster. This way, you learn racing lines, brake points, etc from the AI. You also learn to restrain your aggression and wait for the right chance to pass, which is a skill you need to pass without hitting.

And just progress from there by trying to pass when you see the chance, choosing a car just as fast as your AI's, etc.

This works for pretty much any racing game. This is actually very difficult to do, but it's fun and you'll get used to it quickly.