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scottryan 04-08-2020 10:43 PM

Catch Can recommendations?
 
I feel like for a catch can there isn't like a crazy front runner to go with, so what would you folks recommend? Thanks in advance!

Mr.ac 04-08-2020 11:59 PM

Are you turbo/super charged? If yes go ahead
If not, send me $100 and I'll getto rig a Coke can with any cool manufacture logo you want.

Clutch Dog 04-09-2020 01:21 AM

Send me 100 bucks and ill sell you my racer X catch can not even joking.


but yeah a coke can with some wire scrubbies works just fine

falcon_wizard 04-09-2020 07:51 AM

I have been very pleased with the Verus Engineering AOS, in a drain back configuration so there is no need to drain it. It acts as a dual aos setup, and can be heated as well. A bit pricier, but very well designed. As indicated above, unless you track your car, I would not expect it to be needed for stock NA setup but definitely recommend for FI and a must for built engine. For high HP setup, (say above 250whp) I would recommend an adjustable pcv (wagner) valve with a positive (not passive) ventilation setup as well, to ensure the block is well ventilated and does not build pressure in the crankcase.

scottryan 04-11-2020 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.ac (Post 3317534)
Are you turbo/super charged? If yes go ahead
If not, send me $100 and I'll getto rig a Coke can with any cool manufacture logo you want.

$120 and you slap on a ferrari logo????????

scottryan 04-11-2020 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by falcon_wizard (Post 3317576)
I have been very pleased with the Verus Engineering AOS, in a drain back configuration so there is no need to drain it. It acts as a dual aos setup, and can be heated as well. A bit pricier, but very well designed. As indicated above, unless you track your car, I would not expect it to be needed for stock NA setup but definitely recommend for FI and a must for built engine. For high HP setup, (say above 250whp) I would recommend an adjustable pcv (wagner) valve with a positive (not passive) ventilation setup as well, to ensure the block is well ventilated and does not build pressure in the crankcase.

Thanks for the recommendation man, yeah so I am tracking the car often in the summers and there are plans for FI in the coming future, so I decided to order an air/oil separator instead so I can cross that off the supporting mods list. Overkill no doubt considering I'm only on Stage 2+ E85 but still works nonetheless..... might still go for the coke can special tho.

Capt Spaulding 04-11-2020 02:20 PM

Hard to pass up that Ferrari logo.

radroach 04-11-2020 03:14 PM

Avoid the cheaper ones. I bought an older unbaffled mishimoto catch can and realized it would be useless, never installed it. No way was I was going to put up with nasty rusting catch-can media / steel wool.

Car consumes only 1/2 quart in 3000 miles unmodified at 120k miles. So I have no need for it.

BigTuna 04-11-2020 06:38 PM

$10 in parts from Harbor Freight

https://www.ft86club.com/forums/show...45&postcount=1

DarkPira7e 04-11-2020 07:42 PM

I love the fitment of the Radium catch cans. I have the pcv side and it catches some stuff

Mr.ac 04-12-2020 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottryan (Post 3318311)
$120 and you slap on a ferrari logo????????

Hell yeah! I'll even slap a Lambo logo too.
Hell. I'll even leave the Coke logo on as well.

:thanks::bonk:

Infinity 04-12-2020 01:55 AM

The Verus AOS is the best, but it comes in at $550 with the drain kit, cam cover, and coolant add on.

The Radium is probably considered the next best, coming in at $250 with the drain kit.

The Racer X is a solid budget option which includes a drain valve for $180.

86MLR 04-12-2020 04:09 AM

Catch can or AOS

Vented or recirculating

Drain back or catch.

Street car or track car.

Motorsport regulations required.

Size....from my old CAMS manual

15. if fitted with any crankcase breather discharging to the atmosphere, each breather be vented into a catch tank
of minimum capacity of two litres for engines up to 2000cc or three litres for over 2000cc. Regulations for
competitions on unsealed surfaces may waive this requirement;"

Most of the "shiny brand name" items are rubbish.

I've seen $500 brand name "AOS" that were pretty clean on the inside, but, the intercooler was full of oil.

Meh, I'm bored

falcon_wizard 04-12-2020 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottryan (Post 3318313)
Thanks for the recommendation man, yeah so I am tracking the car often in the summers and there are plans for FI in the coming future, so I decided to order an air/oil separator instead so I can cross that off the supporting mods list. Overkill no doubt considering I'm only on Stage 2+ E85 but still works nonetheless..... might still go for the coke can special tho.

It you set it up properly the first time, you won’t regret it. With the added power of E85, it may be worth putting the wagner adjustable pcv valve on your list as well. People talk a lot about catch cans/aos for handling blow by, but few people talk about managing crank case pressure, which robs power but can also cause reliability issues. Particularly if go plan to go FI, it will protect your engine but also give you better performance/throttle response.

Had I known what I know now, I would have done this a lot time ago.

See an example on my post here: https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=139784

solidONE 04-12-2020 01:30 PM

I've been using this off brand baffled catch can since the before they had other versions. I put a bit of brillo pad in the baffle compartment and teflon tape on the dipstick and main body threads to ensure no vacuum leaks for the past... 5-6 years? Pretty happy with it.

https://www.addw1.com/collections/all-oil-catch-can

I'm pretty certain you can find them much cheaper than on the website. Possibly amazon. Minor flaw in the seal, but easily remedied.

86MLR 04-12-2020 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by solidONE (Post 3318717)
I've been using this off brand baffled catch can since the before they had other versions. I put a bit of brillo pad in the baffle compartment and teflon tape on the dipstick and main body threads to ensure no vacuum leaks for the past... 5-6 years? Pretty happy with it.

https://www.addw1.com/collections/all-oil-catch-can

I'm pretty certain you can find them much cheaper than on the website. Possibly amazon. Minor flaw in the seal, but easily remedied.

Fuel foam works a treat, I've never been confident that little bits of steel won't pass through when using steel wool.

86MLR 04-12-2020 09:42 PM

3 Attachment(s)
This, plus this, plus some 12 an fittings and fuel foam.

Use a big holesaw on the top to install the "fuel cell lid" (access for putting in fuel foam and servicing the AOS i.e. cleaning).

Replace the surge tank small fittings with 12an for the breather feeds.

Drains, fit a valve on one for draining and block the other.

Once fabricated paint with VHT krinkle paint.

Shouldn't cost more than around $200, lots of volume, lots of direction changes.

I've never seen a real racecar, apart from shop cars, with these brand name AOS/catch cans, they all use custom made items with volume, baffles and other internal forms of media for stripping oil.

Opinions may vary

Like the performance of some AOS/catch cans.

scottryan 04-12-2020 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.ac (Post 3318538)
Hell yeah! I'll even slap a Lambo logo too.
Hell. I'll even leave the Coke logo on as well.

:thanks::bonk:

Astounding customer service

scottryan 04-12-2020 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by falcon_wizard (Post 3318653)
It you set it up properly the first time, you won’t regret it. With the added power of E85, it may be worth putting the wagner adjustable pcv valve on your list as well. People talk a lot about catch cans/aos for handling blow by, but few people talk about managing crank case pressure, which robs power but can also cause reliability issues. Particularly if go plan to go FI, it will protect your engine but also give you better performance/throttle response.

Had I known what I know now, I would have done this a lot time ago.

See an example on my post here: https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=139784

Appreciated my man, I'll look into that 100%

Sapphireho 04-12-2020 11:42 PM

Nothing. You do not need one with This platform unless you have a MAJOR turbo setup.

Save your money.

solidONE 04-13-2020 06:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 86MLR (Post 3318867)
Fuel foam works a treat, I've never been confident that little bits of steel won't pass through when using steel wool.

dont use steel wool.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...KkF5i&usqp=CAU

Brillo is a brand I think, but this is the stuff:

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...zLLDP&usqp=CAc

Fuel foam even better you can make it the exact shape of the baffle chamber. But, I dont have that stuff laying around.

airrick 06-01-2020 01:34 AM

:cheers:
Quote:

Originally Posted by falcon_wizard (Post 3318653)
It you set it up properly the first time, you won’t regret it. With the added power of E85, it may be worth putting the wagner adjustable pcv valve on your list as well. People talk a lot about catch cans/aos for handling blow by, but few people talk about managing crank case pressure, which robs power but can also cause reliability issues. Particularly if go plan to go FI, it will protect your engine but also give you better performance/throttle response.

Had I known what I know now, I would have done this a lot time ago.

See an example on my post here: https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=139784

I read all of that. And your thread, yea i think most people dont have the know-how to do stuff like this. If only my tuner does. I will try it regardless :cheers:
Why is this the first thread im learning of this?

Thefalls 01-05-2021 05:32 AM

Would this be considered a good item?
Laile Beatrush oil catch can with drain back via the oil cap.

https://www.japanparts.com/parts/detail/50405

Thanks.


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