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Akinaspeedstar86 03-28-2020 05:35 PM

CARB legal 2017 forced induction
 
Good Afternoon Everyone,

Cant seem to find an answer so what kits seem to be carb legal for 2017 and newer. Depending on the sites I've seen maybe the edelbrock kit? Is that the only choice for California?

Thanks,
Jake

weederr33 03-28-2020 05:50 PM

Works says they have a kit. And I think Jackson Racing has a CARB kit out now for 2017+. Though is Tennessee a CARB state? If not, but you want to still be emissions conscious, you could install whatever kit you want and just leave the factory exhaust.

Akinaspeedstar86 03-28-2020 09:46 PM

I am moving to california most likely in the next year and dont want to have to remove it just to pass smog

weederr33 03-28-2020 09:52 PM

Ah. Yeah, Edelbrock, Jackson Racing, or Works are really your only options. :/

Sapphireho 03-28-2020 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Akinaspeedstar86 (Post 3314136)
I am moving to california most likely in the next year and dont want to have to remove it just to pass smog

Get the JRSC with CARB tune to get the magic CARB sticker. Keep the stock exhaust. Without all stock cats, you will fail no matter what you do.

I have been told (but cannot verify) they cannot tell what tune you are running, so you get a better tune, but you have to buy the CARB tune to get the CARB sticker. Very expensive sticker.

Irace86.2.0 03-28-2020 10:41 PM

You can do a catback that is sub 95db. Smog guys won't measure the decibels.

finch1750 03-28-2020 11:17 PM

@The Racers Line can confirm but I believe Harrop is good for my17+ as well

Irace86.2.0 03-29-2020 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by finch1750 (Post 3314181)
@The Racers Line can confirm but I believe Harrop is good for my17+ as well

It’s not CARB legal, but yes, it works on MY17+.

mrg666 04-02-2020 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sapphireho (Post 3314140)
Get the JRSC with CARB tune to get the magic CARB sticker. Keep the stock exhaust. Without all stock cats, you will fail no matter what you do.

I have been told (but cannot verify) they cannot tell what tune you are running, so you get a better tune, but you have to buy the CARB tune to get the CARB sticker. Very expensive sticker.

JRSC CARB tune is excellent. I wasted money with another tune (supposedly best place but I will not tell) and went back to JRSC CARB tune.

Sapphireho 04-02-2020 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by mrg666 (Post 3315521)
JRSC CARB tune is excellent. I wasted money with another tune (supposedly best place but I will not tell) and went back to JRSC CARB tune.

CARB tune put me at 189 whp. Next tune with new MAF put me at 235, but was terrible at low speeds, parking lots. Then I had it dyno tuned by Bill of Delicious. Now at 240, and very user-friendly at all speeds.

mrg666 04-02-2020 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sapphireho (Post 3315529)
CARB tune put me at 189 whp. Next tune with new MAF put me at 235, but was terrible at low speeds, parking lots. Then I had it dyno tuned by Bill of Delicious. Now at 240, and very user-friendly at all speeds.

189 whp with carb tune indicates a problem with your engine. I don't believe you got 240 just because of new tune

Sapphireho 04-02-2020 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrg666 (Post 3315536)
189 whp with carb tune indicates a problem with your engine. I don't believe you got 240 just because of new tune

Nothing wrong with my engine. Tune was very dissapointing. I added new MAF with second tune to 235, and added injectors and fuel pump for final tune to 240.

I also added flex fuel kit(that is why injectors and pump) I'm 310 on e85.

I'm glad the CARB tune is working for you.

If you search you will find all my dyno sheets.

mrg666 04-02-2020 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sapphireho (Post 3315540)
Nothing wrong with my engine. Tune was very dissapointing. I added new MAF with second tune to 235, and added injectors and fuel pump for final tune to 240.

I also added flex fuel kit(that is why injectors and pump) I'm 310 on e85.

I'm glad the CARB tune is working for you.

If you search you will find all my dyno sheets.

^^^^ I bet that was the reason. But both of us are happy with what we have, so ... :cheers:

Sapphireho 04-02-2020 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by mrg666 (Post 3315558)
^^^^ I bet that was the reason. But both of us are happy with what we have, so ... :cheers:

Absolutely!

tfp 04-02-2020 04:57 PM

For the 17+ the jackson c38 is their only option. Which is not carb compliant despite the way their website advertises.

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Akinaspeedstar86 04-13-2020 12:15 PM

So i found this,


Which spells out CARB for the 2017 86 and BRZ, but i was hoping for more options.


https://ww3.arb.ca.gov/msprog/afterm...o/d-215-93.pdf

tfp 04-14-2020 12:55 AM

Edelbrock is definitely carb legal for the 17+ brz/gt86.

But technically, it's only legal on the carb tune (license) I believe.

Believe me... I'm anxiously awaiting on jackson to get their C38 carb certified.


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NaturallyAspirated 04-14-2020 02:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tfp (Post 3319534)
Edelbrock is definitely carb legal for the 17+ brz/gt86.

But technically, it's only legal on the carb tune (license) I believe.

Believe me... I'm anxiously awaiting on jackson to get their C38 carb certified.


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Any updates from JR on the CARB certification? I emailed them last October and they said they were working on it. I should probably follow up.

tfp 04-14-2020 11:53 PM

Still waiting here too...

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WORKS 04-24-2020 09:39 PM

We’re nearing the final stages of the exemption process for our 2017+ turbo kit!

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Stay healthy, everyone!

- WORKS Team.


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