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TylerLieberman 03-20-2020 10:53 PM

Round 2: GR Inspired Hakone 86
 
Welp.... I finally caved.

I've been on this forum for years now, since around the beginning. Had a 2013 FRS that had some decent stuff to it. Still N/A, but Todoroki fenders, 18" Mag Blue TEs, Leg Sport duckbill, Tomei stuff etc etc.
https://live.staticflickr.com/7502/1...37d105c4_b.jpg

Opted to get rid of that and move to a 2016 STI. The car was obviously quicker, more practical, and it was a lot of fun for very little money, with regards to modifying. Got to drive events at Willow Springs, Autoclub, Laguna Seca, and more.
https://live.staticflickr.com/4440/3...b8caf33e_b.jpg

After that, I moved back to AZ for a career change and wanted to focus on that. So I sold the STI and got a 2019 Crosstrek. Didn't do anything with it. Just drove from A to B every day. Good little car.

But I've been sitting for a while wanting something else. I got a 240sx in August of last year that I started working on and after a couple months, I quickly remember why I always said I never wanted another one. Constantly spending time and money on the thing, I just got burnt out. So I sold it a little over a month ago.

Then I was continuing the debate in my head between an ND, a CTR, or another 86/BRZ. Kind of an odd cross comparison, I know, but I liked them all for different things. The lack of practicality was the big negative for the ND. The markup people are STILL asking for on CTRs was a turn off. The only thing about the 86 was that I already owned one and kind of wanted a change.

Nobody is making anything right now though, and I don't see anything promising coming in the near future. So I decided to finally cave in.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...6f4da95b_b.jpg


2020 Hakone 86. I fell in love with the color when I saw the press release. Wasn't a fan of the interior, but it's better in person than in photos. Still not my absolute favorite, but I can't see the tan when I'm sitting in it and driving it, so who cares? lol

Anyways, when the world finally calms back down, I'll start playing with this thing again at events and such. No drifting. Just HPDE stuff. Simple suspension, wheels/tires, and so on. Nothing crazy or that hasn't already been done. Looking forward to enjoying driving again though. It's been too long.

TylerLieberman 03-20-2020 10:55 PM

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...f4efee56_b.jpg

Engine/Drivetrain:
Nameless 2.5" Dual Axleback with 5" Mufflers
GReddy Oil Cooler
Radium PCV Catch Can
Perrin Inlet Tube w/ Drop-in Filter

Suspension:
KW x GReddy Coilovers
SPC LCAs

Wheels/Tires/Brakes:
RAYS/VOLK TE37SL Blast Bronze 18x9.5 +40
255/35 Federal RS PRO
CSG C2 Brake Pads (F/R)
Project Mu Brake Fluid

Interior:
JDM 86 GR Steering Wheel (Alcantara wrapped by SWEIDIT)
JDM 86 GR Push Start Button
Shift Boot Alcantara wrapped by SWEIDIT
EBrake Boot Alcantara wrapped by SWEIDIT

Exterior:
Verus Engineering Carbon Ducktail
JDM Clear Corner Lights
BaysonR Fromt Lip & Side Skirts

asdf 03-21-2020 12:00 AM

Welcome back!

Lantanafrs2 03-21-2020 12:02 AM

That color is awesome

weederr33 03-21-2020 01:42 AM

Welcome back! I'm looking forward to this build

Tcoat 03-21-2020 02:34 AM

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We can be Hakone brothers!

MCTeeJ 03-21-2020 10:42 AM

Welcome back!

TylerLieberman 03-21-2020 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3311214)
We can be Hakone brothers!

Ayyyyyyyy!

Did you get one too?

Kiske 03-21-2020 11:43 AM

Glad to have you back!

Tcoat 03-21-2020 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TylerLieberman (Post 3311296)
Ayyyyyyyy!

Did you get one too?

Yep. Pick up in 4 days.

mrg666 03-21-2020 01:08 PM

Welcome back! It is such a special package, I would try keeping its look as it is while modifying.

JD001 03-21-2020 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3311214)
We can be Hakone brothers!

That's not a Hakone.. the colour isn't popping....

Tcoat 03-21-2020 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JD001 (Post 3311337)
That's not a Hakone.. the colour isn't popping....

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b4/9c...d91314db64.png

JD001 03-21-2020 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3311341)

You do realise that you will only be able to sell the car during the summer months, in Florida....

Tcoat 03-21-2020 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JD001 (Post 3311344)
You do realise that you will only be able to sell the car during the summer months, in Florida....

We get 8 months of nice sun here. It isn’t the UK!

TylerLieberman 03-21-2020 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3311315)
Yep. Pick up in 4 days.

Awesome, congrats! 10/10 the best color. But now I’m a little biased lol

Tcoat 03-21-2020 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TylerLieberman (Post 3311369)
Awesome, congrats! 10/10 the best color. But now I’m a little biased lol

Can't wait to see mine in some real sun so it looks like yours! I am getting ceramic done so it should really pop. Hard to tell in your picture but are your windows tinted?

tweedbean 03-21-2020 04:20 PM

That colour is amazing, really like it. Im tempted to go some sort of green on my BRZ when I get it repainted.

TylerLieberman 03-21-2020 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3311386)
Can't wait to see mine in some real sun so it looks like yours! I am getting ceramic done so it should really pop. Hard to tell in your picture but are your windows tinted?

Yeah the window tint came on the car when I bought it. It's pretty common here in AZ given the hot summers we have.

The color pops so good in the light. I feel like Toyota had a bit of a missed opportunity with all the photos they took when they announced the car.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...c3e140d6_b.jpg
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...aa3bbc23_b.jpg

Tcoat 03-21-2020 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TylerLieberman (Post 3311450)
Yeah the window tint came on the car when I bought it. It's pretty common here in AZ given the hot summers we have.

The color pops so good in the light. I feel like Toyota had a bit of a missed opportunity with all the photos they took when they announced the car.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...c3e140d6_b.jpg
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...aa3bbc23_b.jpg

Oh that looks outstanding. Mine is getting tinted as well but I hadn't seen a picture of how they look all darked out. I am trying to decide if I want to swap the Toyota badges for a satin black or try and find some bronze ones.

TylerLieberman 03-21-2020 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3311457)
Oh that looks outstanding. Mine is getting tinted as well but I hadn't seen a picture of how they look all darked out. I am trying to decide if I want to swap the Toyota badges for a satin black or try and find some bronze ones.

For sure. All I know is this thing is getting Bronze TE37s because #TE37theworld lol

Would also really like to do a leg sport duckbill again, but it doesn’t cover the OEM wing holes, so I’d have to have paint and body work done on the trunk which idk if I really want to do.

TylerLieberman 03-30-2020 08:36 PM

Minor update but I'm so hyped right now.

So a few years back, when I first saw the GR lip for the Kouki 86, I knew that's what I wanted if I ever got another 86.
https://i.imgur.com/TaIcI7g.jpg

I'm a huge fan of the way it looks. Problem is it's soooo difficult to find somebody who can source it. Well, I went through a couple contacts I've met and known over the years who are now in Japan and they were able to put in an inquiry to see if they could get it.

Good news: THEY CAN!
Bad news: Direct from Toyota, the full lip is about $1,600 before shipping costs

LUCKILY, I was able to find a used one on Yahoo Japan. There were 24 bids, price was only at $120 when I placed my bid. My max bid was set at $700, expecting the auction to go pretty high. To my surprise, I won the action... for $286!
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...9e79e8c0_b.jpg

Shipping to the warehouse in JP then to the US will run about $300 or so, so all in all, I'm in about $600. The side pieces and hardware I already have a quote for direct from Toyota JP for $200 shipped, so it seems as though as I was able to score one of these for about $800 total, which is less than half the price of buying and shipping a brand new one.

I do have the full parts list between hardware, the lip, and side pieces though after a bunch of research. So if anybody is also looking to pick up a GR lip for their Kouki 86, I can provide those numbers.

Tcoat 03-30-2020 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TylerLieberman (Post 3314813)
I was able to score one of these for about $800 total, which is less than half the price of buying and shipping a brand new one.

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trueno86power 04-07-2020 06:13 PM

Lucky ! Can't wait to see it installed :D

drew_kar 04-16-2020 09:08 PM

Oof best color and best lip in my opinion for the Kouki front end. I have your old set of mag blue TE37SLs lol. Can't wait to see what wheels you decide to go with on this build!

Ghost of Akina 05-11-2020 04:59 PM

Having decided on the 86 - awesome color choice by the way!!! Being on this side of the decision if you could have picked up a CTR at a reasonable price do you think you would have still come back to the 86 regardless? Only wondering because I am thinking the same right now...

Thefalls 05-11-2020 05:11 PM

Rwd vs fwd. After having driven both I vote for the GT86.
The CTR will get you a lot of tickets and the 86 will be fun to drive at the limit.

WC-BRZ 05-11-2020 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3314829)

Tcoat sir, where is your build thread?

You know you want to 2JZ swap that thing and put a giant wing in the back :happyanim:

TylerLieberman 05-11-2020 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghost of Akina (Post 3329659)
Having decided on the 86 - awesome color choice by the way!!! Being on this side of the decision if you could have picked up a CTR at a reasonable price do you think you would have still come back to the 86 regardless? Only wondering because I am thinking the same right now...

Hard to say. I would only buy a Championship White CTR. If I could find one at sticker price, it would be a lot more tempting. However, quite a few people are still running into issues with keeping them cool on track. Considering I live in AZ, I'm not sure if I'd want to deal with that; or spend thousands of dollars trying to get around that issue.

However, there's no denying that the CTR would make the better *all around* car. To this date, the 2016 STI I had was definitely the best all around car I've owned, and the CTR has been universally said to have a nicer interior and ride quality, with more space.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thefalls (Post 3329663)
Rwd vs fwd. After having driven both I vote for the GT86.
The CTR will get you a lot of tickets and the 86 will be fun to drive at the limit.

I try not to get sucked into the whole "wrong wheel drive" debate. I've driven FWD cars that rotate better than AWD and RWD cars. While a FWD car will never rotate on throttle like a RWD car will, I've enjoyed some FWD cars way more than some AWD or RWD I've driven as well.

I'd say both are fun (albeit for different reasons) to drive at the limit.. And I'm pretty confident 86/BRZ owners have far more tickets than CTR owners lol

vince86 05-14-2020 04:10 AM

what are the tyre and wheel spec on your old 86? looks real nice

TylerLieberman 05-14-2020 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vince86 (Post 3330775)
what are the tyre and wheel spec on your old 86? looks real nice

The TEs were the same spec; 18x9.5. Wrapped in 265/35 all around.

jflogerzi 05-18-2020 02:44 AM

Leave the wing. Keep it stock or mods that are reverseable. I think this car might hold value a bit more. BTW how can you hate the interior. Love the tan color [emoji3]

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TylerLieberman 05-18-2020 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jflogerzi (Post 3332175)
Leave the wing. Keep it stock or mods that are reverseable. I think this car might hold value a bit more. BTW how can you hate the interior. Love the tan color [emoji3]

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I'm keeping the stock parts but am definitely changing the wing. Verus duckbill most likely, as it covers the OEM holes, meaning I don't have to do any filling/paint work.

The interior is ok, but I suppose it's an acquired test. I've never been the biggest fan of tan interiors. Then again, I'm not even a giant fan of leather. If it were up to me, the entire entire would be black/gray with cloth/alcantara.

mmmcambelsoup 05-19-2020 11:02 AM

Dang, I remember when you had your first twin. Really digged your simple but clean look.

jflogerzi 05-19-2020 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TylerLieberman (Post 3332471)
I'm keeping the stock parts but am definitely changing the wing. Verus duckbill most likely, as it covers the OEM holes, meaning I don't have to do any filling/paint work.



The interior is ok, but I suppose it's an acquired test. I've never been the biggest fan of tan interiors. Then again, I'm not even a giant fan of leather. If it were up to me, the entire entire would be black/gray with cloth/alcantara.

Hardest thing is to blend/paint match. Good thing it's still fresh. Can't wait to see what you do with it

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TylerLieberman 05-22-2020 08:15 PM

Got wheels a couple weeks ago. Naturally, they had to be TEs lol. And of course, they're Bronze.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...7f25f651_b.jpg
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...81aea6aa_b.jpg

Not a big fan of the way the red SL stickers looked on the Bronze though, so I ordered some RAYS/VOLK spoke stickers, which give the wheel a much better, more classic look I think.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...0059820b_b.jpg

Bought these now because they're limited production and I didn't want to miss out. I was going to do 17" Sagas but I just can't bring myself to like the face design the same way I like the OG face. I'd prefer 17s, but I'll take the proper looking 18s over the slightly odd looking 17" Sagas.

Waiting on GR steering wheel and shift/ebrake boot to come back from my friend at Sweidit so I can get the interior buttoned up. Next on the list is oil cooler and catch can so I can have the engine good to go for upcoming track days at the end of summer.

jflogerzi 05-22-2020 09:21 PM

Subed!

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Ghost of Akina 05-23-2020 04:26 PM

What's the plan for suspension?

TylerLieberman 05-23-2020 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghost of Akina (Post 3334081)
What's the plan for suspension?

Been looking at RCE.


Also, forgot to add the GR cluster. I like the all white tach much more than the OE unit, and it goes well with the car I think given the other GR parts I've got.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...6ff190ac_b.jpg

thedollarbill 05-23-2020 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TylerLieberman (Post 3334085)
Been looking at RCE.


Also, forgot to add the GR cluster. I like the all white tach much more than the OE unit, and it goes well with the car I think given the other GR parts I've got.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...6ff190ac_b.jpg

Holy shit!!!! I've always favored the white tac but the GR one has got to be the best of them all. Do you know if they made a pre-facelifted cluster???????


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