Engineering Explained: Ruining the Manual Transmission
 

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I really love this YouTuber content and he knocked it out of the park in this one (he often does). This guy is also a very big proponent of the FT86 concept, he has many videos praising it specifically and the concept in general. He's an excellent critic that knows what he's talking about when comes to cars.

It's a very educative video but for those who are not into such technical stuff too much the gist of it is this: The industry is heading towards long gear ratios in MT for whatever reason and this is ruining MTs (ruining everything if you ask me).

One of the best things that made me choose a 2017 BRZ is the short gear ratios in the MT. I was right about my expectations. I enjoyed the short ratios immensely and it is my standard go to fun item. It works a peach. If I'm not in the mood for shifting I just rev out 1st and shift into 4th 5th or even 6th directly and I'm done. If I want to enjoy myself, I row through the gears and it's immense fun on public roads and still within safe speeds.

I don't like the trend in the industry right now of making MTs with very long gear ratios but it seems to be getting more and more invasive.

What? Really?


Long gear ratios? In a 6 speed? For most of the MT history it had 3 gears. Those were long gears ratios.


The manufacturers have to meet emission and mileage controls. Those requirements dictate gear ratios. This is why you now have 6 or even 8 gears in a MT.


Oh and this dude is annoying as fuck and only gives you part of the story.

3 gears is ancient history by now and such technology carries no relevance today.

Engines use to be manually cranked too. I would never look forward to that in the freezing cold at least.


I won't pretend to know more than you do in these matters and I won't challenge your statement here. I just lament the end result regardless of the validity of the mandate.

This is your personal opinion and this YouTuber happens to have 2.5 million subscribers with a video reaching 15 million views and this is on explaining technical details the masses tend to fall asleep in.

So your personal opinion doesn't seem to be that popular.

You complain of this "trend" of long gearing so historical references certainly do apply.


How can you lament the passing of something you do not even understand?


There are videos of cat's falling off furniture with twice that many views so your measurement of quality is flawed.

Not this one, but I've watched many videos of this guy. And I agree.

OK. Since when is 5th gear a fun gear? Looking at track vids this gearing seems better? Keeps you in 4th on basically any track saving a shift to 5th (I looked up COTA and Thunderhill east for reference).

And with either the added power (or maybe weight?) the 2018+ runs the 1/4 quicker with a faster 0-60 as well.

Porsche Cayman has stupid tall manual gears as well which all journalists complain about.

500 extra revs and 20 added hp should change the ratios.
That is why we have quick change rear ands carefully select ratios on race cars for different tracks where performance is critical.
Do not use track type requirements for street cars. Different goals.
I hesitate to post this as many on this forum use track type preparation on there cars that never see a track. (street racing? Bar stool racing?)

I went to track just cuz the first 3 gears are so similar and get you into impound territory for street driving anyway lol.

But agree 100%, a street car is way different from a track car. And you can't build a car that is perfect for every track.

His marketing is excellent, lots of views, lots of click, lots of dollars.

He actually contradicts himself over a few engineering points.

Meh, he makes money from people believing everything he says.

Click click click

Gotta have that street cred yo. How could you possibly show your face at the parking lot with stock parts.

I do that with my fastest track car. Weird eh? :)

As for EE.. he's ok "light reading" material. I wouldn't trust him to be an expert on anything he's produced. He's an entertainer and makes good money at it so congrats to him!

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99,895,543 views.

Disclaimer: I've watched neither video.

The cat one was 1,000 times more entertaining and probably more educational as well.

Ring out first and shift to fourth? No wonder there was a valve spring recall

I'll contend that I'm thankful car content is available on YouTube. Even if I disagree with the theory, that's what the comments section is for.
I'm glad young enthusiasts are sharing their hobbies with the world through YouTube; car culture is about preferences and practices right? It's fun to be able to watch other people put their preferences into practice and not fear judgment while doing so.

I'll support the few people I really enjoy watching and appreciate the rest for being public with their endeavors.

enjoying their own car they way they choose to. Different people have different goals and different driving environments. Some people don't care how loud a car is, some people need it to be as quiet as possible.

Track type preparation on a street car is not the same as having a competitive track car. It can just make driving more fun for that individual.

I actually agree with you, that was why I hesitated. He was talking about ruining the car, I have made many mods for self enjoyment. Not what he was talking about.

Actual lol.

Agreed. I've got no problem with EE. Not something I use as a reference, and opinions are opinions, but I think it's good he's doing his thing. I've thought about doing something similar but I'm just sticking with the instagram stuff we're doing with the apex files for now. Maybe a podcast in the future. Mostly worried no one cares. :iono:

- Andrew

My issue isn't really with his content so much as his delivery. The content is sometimes way to basic though and although that is good for a base people stop there and do not learn the rest of the story.

I don't think 1st to 6th is a good idea, I haven't done. I have done shifting from 4th to 6th.

"Shifted 1st to 6th, broke a conrod, worst brake design ever"...

I'll pre-subscribe to the podcast

I would love a podcast!

You know...

I always love discussing on forums because you learn new things from others and discussing with others is always pleasurable experience in general. Except this forum and mainly because of your particular posts. They're most often wrong (like this post that I'd call general useless endless rambling) and responding to them is useless because you'll just go on forever coming up with one useless argument after another.


Posting on this forum is more of a negative experience than positive mainly because of your posts. Every time I post here you come over and sh*t all over the place with your comments.

I'm logging out of this place for good and not coming back here unless I'm looking for something technical about the FT86. There's nothing positive to ever gain in this forum with you in it. I l love driving my BRZ and learning about cars in general but people like you make these public forums stink.

Agreed. New member here - just created an account a week or so ago.
He’s an enormous jackass with some mental issues. Jumped all over me in one of my threads.
Accused me of of being some other member and creating a new account or some shit.
Dude needs to get over himself. I started reading his post history and quickly sized him up. He’s an unfortunate part of this forum. He needs to take a break.

You don't like learning you like getting support for your preconceived thoughts.

And when you look for something technical and people answer you will just argue with them anyway so...

Carry on with your 1st to 6th gear shifts and when your engine dies blame the declining quality of the auto industry.

LOL OK Granted.

Still doubling down on delusion?

Worst banned account comeback ever.

LOL - Keep thinking that. I find it amusing. Cheers to whoever ‘Granted’ was - must’ve thoroughly traumatized you!

if that's 'accused', i'm scared to think of what tiny motivation 'harassment' counts for in your world.

tcoat's having some fun. if it's not your flavor, move on. not everyone is a letterman fan.

Aww coming in here to defend your buddy. Very cute.

@ichitaka05 I think this thread has run its course.

LOL

People chose to read, or not read a post.

People chose to reply or not reply.

People chose to be opinionated (me), or not be opinionated(not me).

Forum membership should include a hello package with some Viagra and concrete.

This message is for all the all the snowflakes out there in the interwebs.

Harden up, go outside, and work on your car or something, life is to short to worry about what people post on a interwebs site.

In the end there's some classic LOLS here that makes me smile

TL;DR :popcorn:

i think you've got the wrong kind of kit there...

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I appreciate all of you lol

I do not have enough data on my phone to watch funny videos on youtube so I just read this forum

I was only gone for 1 day recovering from cold (not coronavirus)... ONE DAY!!!! and come back to this? I haven't even had a chance to make a popcorn yet. SMH

I'm all for disagreeing discussion. Not sayin' everyone should get thicker skin, BUT you don't take/read everything. Comment that you don't agree &/or think pointless, move on or ignore it. Not saying everyone need to hold hands and sing Kumbaya, just don't go yippie-ki yay on everyone.

TLDR: Warning to all

Best line EVER!