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botbs 01-27-2020 05:33 PM

HKS Complete Engine - Tokyo Auto Salon 2020
 
https://www.hks-power.co.jp/event/ta...EG_fa20_01.jpg

Do want but pretty pricey
STEP1(230万円)
STEP2(330万円)
STEP3(予価426万円)

https://www.hks-power.co.jp/event/ta...gine_fa20.html

https://clicccar.com/2020/01/10/945154/

Captain Snooze 02-02-2020 06:23 AM

Ummm... if I've entered the numbers correctly the stage 3 conversion reads AUD$61,000. Surely that can't be right?

tomm.brz 02-02-2020 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Snooze (Post 3296177)
Ummm... if I've entered the numbers correctly the stage 3 conversion reads AUD$61,000. Surely that can't be right?

it can totally be right with hks, they sell a tuned short block only for like 20k $

86TOYO2k17 02-02-2020 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomm.brz (Post 3296178)
it can totally be right with hks, they sell a tuned short block only for like 20k $

English page with more details, release dates and pricing for each stage.

https://www.hksusa.com/news/hks-comp...-rb26-and-fa20

tomm.brz 02-02-2020 12:00 PM

i guess the total count of these engine built will be: 1
for their car

86TOYO2k17 02-02-2020 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomm.brz (Post 3296196)
i guess the total count of these engine built will be: 1
for their car

Yeah idk how they got that pricing. I would consider buying a step 3 for 15k$. But 40k$ Doesn’t make any sense.

PulsarBeeerz 02-02-2020 06:09 PM

I was kind of expecting a 2.5L like their TA car for that much yen. 2.3-2.4l at least.

Irace86.2.0 02-02-2020 09:33 PM

That is Synergy money.

soundman98 02-02-2020 10:09 PM

I better be able to get 300hp on it!

PulsarBeeerz 02-02-2020 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soundman98 (Post 3296264)
I better be able to get 300hp on it!


Should be good for 600hp+

Kiske 02-03-2020 12:58 AM

It is high but, you can't get a stage 3 equivalent below 20 grand.

I've been talking with IAG for 2 months to do just that and my cheapest quote is 17.5k with me providing custom pistons, gaskets, the hks stroker kit and cams. That is not a complete drop in engine either but a long block assy. All in all the setup will hit around 26k assuming I don't use the hks rods.

And before asked, Synergy's 2.4l quote came in at 72k and just trading up to a GT4 is too costly (month to month.)

Captain Snooze 02-03-2020 01:15 AM

I have no idea how they compare in practice but I get the impression that Element Tuning know what they are talking about. Their engine "10.5:1 Turbo Engine Build with Big Valve Heads $7363", looks to me to be of similar build standard.

86TOYO2k17 02-03-2020 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Snooze (Post 3296295)
I have no idea how they compare in practice but I get the impression that Element Tuning know what they are talking about. Their engine "10.5:1 Turbo Engine Build with Big Valve Heads $7363", looks to me to be of similar build standard.

it is similar, besides not having 120cc more displacement. and i think the head comes with stock cams instead of aftermarket like hks cams.

Lantanafrs2 03-01-2020 09:28 AM

A lot of money for jdm mystique.

weederr33 03-01-2020 04:43 PM

Well guess this is something else I can put in my fantasy build spreadsheet

Calum 03-02-2020 12:46 PM

For that much money, a turn key LSx swap would be a hell of a lot more attractive to me. Yes, it would be more money still, but not a whole lot more.

why? 03-02-2020 02:14 PM

Lots of people out there with much more than that into their engine. Odds are good every car featured in any magazine had at least that spent on the engine alone, if not more.

mav1178 03-03-2020 12:10 AM

never compare a complete engine price in Japan to whatever you can do with your money elsewhere in the world.

Nismo Omori Factory regularly sells rebuilt RB26 engines for anywhere from $20-65k+ USD. The engine pricing is anywhere from a basic rebuild to about 500+WHP mods, but for the money you spend you're better off getting something from somewhere else and build your own.

However, what these shops do is provide a complete turnkey service for the customer in Japan. The engine may be orderable for an overseas customer, but 1) there is an engine deposit/core charge required, and 2) it's meant as a "drop off your car at the shop and pick it up weeks later" type of service.

Omori Factory is one of those places where if I lived in Japan and owned a GT-R, I would love to have them work on my car.
https://www.nismo.co.jp/omori_factor...ice/index.html

An example are these 3 from Jan 2017:

Left to right, the prices are JPY 4,800,000 // JPY 7,150,000 // JPY 4,300,000.

None of them are more than 500WHP as-is. All 3 still keep the stock twin turbo config with upgraded N1 units.... which still suck.
Omori Factory sells a lot of these in Japan every year.

https://scontent-lax3-2.xx.fbcdn.net...bb&oe=5E98566B

mav1178 03-03-2020 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 86TOYO2k17 (Post 3296192)
English page with more details, release dates and pricing for each stage.

https://www.hksusa.com/news/hks-comp...-rb26-and-fa20

HKS dealer pricing is anywhere from 25-40% off MSRP.

Some of the dealers out there sell the engine for cost and just charge for labor. It's not unheard of.

If you're HKS Pro Dealer you also get a marketing allowance every year, so if you use it on one complete engine you basically get a $5k discount off your cost.

botbs 03-03-2020 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mav1178 (Post 3304561)
HKS dealer pricing is anywhere from 25-40% off MSRP.

Some of the dealers out there sell the engine for cost and just charge for labor. It's not unheard of.

If you're HKS Pro Dealer you also get a marketing allowance every year, so if you use it on one complete engine you basically get a $5k discount off your cost.

PM me if you know dealers that can offer me 40% off, I am interested.

Thanks!

86TOYO2k17 03-03-2020 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by botbs (Post 3304941)
PM me if you know dealers that can offer me 40% off, I am interested.

Thanks!

Lol. Same. Stage 2 fully built stroked long block for under 20k$.


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