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ApoNono 12-11-2019 10:00 PM

Back in the club
 
Ended up having to part with my 2013 FRS back in 2015. I’m happy to say I am back in the family with a 2019 86 TRD Special Edition!

Lightened 12-11-2019 11:21 PM

Pics or it didn't happen


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congrats!

Will BRZ 12-11-2019 11:54 PM

Oh shit been waiting for this one. Was it “cheap”? :D

ApoNono 12-12-2019 06:55 AM

3300 miles on it at a Toyota dealer for 26k. Super clean, almost like new condition

I will take a pic when the sun comes up for proof

YamahaR86 12-12-2019 10:54 AM

How has the front bumper grown on you? I still prefer the FR-S bumper. The 86 looks like a weird catfish to me.

ApoNono 12-12-2019 11:00 AM

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Here she is!

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StraightOuttaCanadaEh 12-12-2019 11:03 AM

Oooff I love that spec, with the stripes!

JesseG 12-12-2019 11:42 AM

You picked an awesome version of the 86, welcome back to the family! [emoji106]
What are your impressions of the 2019 TRD compared to your 2013 FR-S?


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ApoNono 12-12-2019 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by YamahaR86 (Post 3282615)
How has the front bumper grown on you? I still prefer the FR-S bumper. The 86 looks like a weird catfish to me.

I am not sure what I would have thought about it without the TRD spec. I am loving the more aggressive look from that standpoint BUT I will no longer be able to unsee the catfish

HaXx 12-12-2019 11:54 AM

omg! i like the 86 bumper! the frs bumber reminds me too much of every other car in toyotas line. look at those big brakes!

ApoNono 12-12-2019 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by JesseG (Post 3282638)
You picked an awesome version of the 86, welcome back to the family! [emoji106]
What are your impressions of the 2019 TRD compared to your 2013 FR-S?


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I will caveat this reply with; I was driving a RAV4 since I gave up the FR-S so my point of reference for what I remember about driving it and comparing it to the 2019 TRD might be a little off.

My initial impression during the test drive, and is holding true over the last 2 days, is that the stability of the car overall feels a lot better. Gear change feels a lot smoother too after I dusted off my manual skills (which have never been great, to begin with) off.

The upgraded brakes and larger tires are pretty amazing - This thing is stopping on a dime and feels very in control of its size/speed. I was also surprised by how much meaner it sounds with the upgraded exhaust as well.

Creature comforts are way better than the 2013 FR-S. It's the small cabin things that I am loving over the FR-S. Push-button start, keyless entry, the additional acsents in the 2019 TRD... and it isn't badged as a Scion ;)

Overall I am extremely happy with the 2019 TRD. Before I found this one used with low miles on it I was about to pull the trigger on building out a 2020 86 GY TRD. The price felt right and I couldn't be happier. The dealer I purchased it from was also the original dealer that sold it to the original owner. The story I got was a couple bought it and then 2 months later got pregnant and traded it in for a used Highlander. It was sitting on their lot since July/August so it has been waiting for me ;)

jflogerzi 12-12-2019 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ApoNono (Post 3282644)
I will caveat this reply with; I was driving a RAV4 since I gave up the FR-S so my point of reference for what I remember about driving it and comparing it to the 2019 TRD might be a little off.



My initial impression during the test drive, and is holding true over the last 2 days, is that the stability of the car overall feels a lot better. Gear change feels a lot smoother too after I dusted off my manual skills (which have never been great, to begin with) off.



The upgraded brakes and larger tires are pretty amazing - This thing is stopping on a dime and feels very in control of its size/speed. I was also surprised by how much meaner it sounds with the upgraded exhaust as well.



Creature comforts are way better than the 2013 FR-S. It's the small cabin things that I am loving over the FR-S. Push-button start, keyless entry, the additional acsents in the 2019 TRD... and it isn't badged as a Scion ;)



Overall I am extremely happy with the 2019 TRD. Before I found this one used with low miles on it I was about to pull the trigger on building out a 2020 86 GY TRD. The price felt right and I couldn't be happier. The dealer I purchased it from was also the original dealer that sold it to the original owner. The story I got was a couple bought it and then 2 months later got pregnant and traded it in for a used Highlander. It was sitting on their lot since July/August so it has been waiting for me ;)

Congrats you got a good deal. Welcome back. This has the PP breaks correct? Which dampers and does it come with trd springs already?

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ApoNono 12-13-2019 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by jflogerzi (Post 3282855)
Congrats you got a good deal. Welcome back. This has the PP breaks correct? Which dampers and does it come with trd springs already?

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Thanks!
Brembo brakes and Sachs dampers. I am pretty sure it is the same stock springs and the non-special edition though.

JesseG 12-13-2019 05:03 PM

Back in the club
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ApoNono (Post 3282644)
I will caveat this reply with; I was driving a RAV4 since I gave up the FR-S so my point of reference for what I remember about driving it and comparing it to the 2019 TRD might be a little off.



My initial impression during the test drive, and is holding true over the last 2 days, is that the stability of the car overall feels a lot better. Gear change feels a lot smoother too after I dusted off my manual skills (which have never been great, to begin with) off.



The upgraded brakes and larger tires are pretty amazing - This thing is stopping on a dime and feels very in control of its size/speed. I was also surprised by how much meaner it sounds with the upgraded exhaust as well.



Creature comforts are way better than the 2013 FR-S. It's the small cabin things that I am loving over the FR-S. Push-button start, keyless entry, the additional acsents in the 2019 TRD... and it isn't badged as a Scion ;)



Overall I am extremely happy with the 2019 TRD. Before I found this one used with low miles on it I was about to pull the trigger on building out a 2020 86 GY TRD. The price felt right and I couldn't be happier. The dealer I purchased it from was also the original dealer that sold it to the original owner. The story I got was a couple bought it and then 2 months later got pregnant and traded it in for a used Highlander. It was sitting on their lot since July/August so it has been waiting for me ;)



Thank you for sharing your thoughts about the differences! I can imagine going from the RAV4 to a 86 is a big change! I would miss the pure simplicity of the FR-S, and I don’t really like the little digital screen tacked on the gauge cluster. There are so many little upgrades though I could overlook that. And ride quality should be better on a new 86.

I also think it’s very interesting the gear changes feel smoother. That is a really good sign for anyone that wants to go from a FR-S to a new 86. [emoji106]

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g e 12-13-2019 08:45 PM

Stories like this almost make we want to trade in my 2013 brz and get the latest and greatest. Almost.

But I do like the basic steering wheel and rawness if it.

I wonder if all electric is in the 86 future? Saw Tesla roadster and it has 600+ mile range and 0-60 1.9 seconds. $200k

Time to set up a GoFundMe acct!

jflogerzi 12-13-2019 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by g e (Post 3283077)
Stories like this almost make we want to trade in my 2013 brz and get the latest and greatest. Almost.

But I do like the basic steering wheel and rawness if it.

I wonder if all electric is in the 86 future? Saw Tesla roadster and it has 600+ mile range and 0-60 1.9 seconds. $200k

Time to set up a GoFundMe acct!

Nah wait for second generation. The smoothness can be fixed by a header and tune. 1500$ max. Much cheaper than a new car. [emoji1787]

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ApoNono 12-13-2019 09:31 PM

I wish I still had my original but that set aside. I am glad I found this one when I did. Feels more special than getting a 2020

humfrz 12-13-2019 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by g e (Post 3283077)
Stories like this almost make we want to trade in my 2013 brz and get the latest and greatest. Almost.

But I do like the basic steering wheel and rawness if it.

I wonder if all electric is in the 86 future? Saw Tesla roadster and it has 600+ mile range and 0-60 1.9 seconds. $200k

Time to set up a GoFundMe acct!

I'll pass - :eyebulge:


humfrz

ElijahF 12-14-2019 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ApoNono (Post 3282639)
I am not sure what I would have thought about it without the TRD spec. I am loving the more aggressive look from that standpoint BUT I will no longer be able to unsee the catfish

https://i.ibb.co/dmdbXt7/B28-D8-E53-...31-A94-FAB.jpg

Watch and learn.

beltax90 12-15-2019 01:09 AM

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FRSBRZGT86FAN 12-15-2019 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jflogerzi (Post 3283081)
Nah wait for second generation. The smoothness can be fixed by a header and tune. 1500$ max. Much cheaper than a new car. [emoji1787]

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So true, anything you don't like about this car can be fixed with a decent budget and right knowledge. A lot of cars that can't be said for.

JesseG 12-30-2019 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ApoNono (Post 3283083)
I wish I still had my original but that set aside. I am glad I found this one when I did. Feels more special than getting a 2020



I’m really torn between going for a good deal on a current TRD (or Handling Package)86, or waiting to see what the 2nd gen will be. The main thing I want to know is what motor will be in the 2nd gen.


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JD001 12-30-2019 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JesseG (Post 3286921)
I’m really torn between going for a good deal on a current TRD (or Handling Package)86, or waiting to see what the 2nd gen will be. The main thing I want to know is what motor will be in the 2nd gen.


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How much waiting are you prepared to do? Or put it another way, how long do have to live??

JesseG 12-31-2019 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by JD001 (Post 3286924)
How much waiting are you prepared to do? Or put it another way, how long do have to live??


I’m totally ok with waiting another year or so, and we might get some official news from Toyota before then. I understand what you are saying though, life is short, and the current 86 is really good. [emoji6]


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ApoNono 12-31-2019 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by JesseG (Post 3286921)
I’m really torn between going for a good deal on a current TRD (or Handling Package)86, or waiting to see what the 2nd gen will be. The main thing I want to know is what motor will be in the 2nd gen.


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I’m really glad I didn’t wait. Something about getting this thing back before the next gen comes out in 2021 feels right.

I don’t miss my 2013 any more. This thing feels so much different from the 2013 FR-S

JesseG 01-01-2020 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ApoNono (Post 3287246)
I’m really glad I didn’t wait. Something about getting this thing back before the next gen comes out in 2021 feels right.



I don’t miss my 2013 any more. This thing feels so much different from the 2013 FR-S



That’s what I hope I would feel like also. And, if the 2nd gen turns out to be incredible, they will be available to buy later. I think a 2019/2020 86 or BRZ would feel different enough from my 2016 to justify the change. Especially with the Handling Package!


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JesseG 01-01-2020 03:16 PM

I do like some elements of the FR-S styling better, specifically the front end and the fender emblems. Other than that the new 86 is better in every way, and a small bump in power.


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NWFRS 01-01-2020 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by FRSBRZGT86FAN (Post 3283320)
So true, anything you don't like about this car can be fixed with a decent budget and right knowledge. A lot of cars that can't be said for.

Absolutely. I appreciate that cars are getting "better" all the time but I've learned to embrace the 1st-gen. I just don't have the money to go pursuing every new generation. And there really is a lot to be done to the bare-bones platform to make it more comfortable, faster, and better-looking. 1st-gen cloth seats and wheels were my biggest gripes. My next phase will be a modest power bump, which will certainly be greater than that 5hp mid-cycle refresh. One "advantage" to waiting so long is that the aftermarket feels more mature now-with the best products having survived the test of time and taken market share away from all those half-baked "me too" companies.

mrg666 01-01-2020 05:52 PM

[QUOTE=ApoNono;3282644]and it isn't badged as a Scion ;)/QUOTE]

I really don't care if the car is Toyota, Subaru, or Scion.

cys19 01-03-2020 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ApoNono (Post 3282558)
3300 miles on it at a Toyota dealer for 26k. Super clean, almost like new condition

I will take a pic when the sun comes up for proof

What was it after taxes and fees?

YamahaR86 01-03-2020 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by NWFRS (Post 3287341)
Absolutely. I appreciate that cars are getting "better" all the time but I've learned to embrace the 1st-gen. I just don't have the money to go pursuing every new generation. And there really is a lot to be done to the bare-bones platform to make it more comfortable, faster, and better-looking. 1st-gen cloth seats and wheels were my biggest gripes. My next phase will be a modest power bump, which will certainly be greater than that 5hp mid-cycle refresh. One "advantage" to waiting so long is that the aftermarket feels more mature now-with the best products having survived the test of time and taken market share away from all those half-baked "me too" companies.


Same for me. I've paid off my car. Only thing I want are minor: Leather Seats, Knee Pad Cushions, Dual Climate Controls, I saw on a friend's BRZ they have a small digital screen on the gauge, Trunk Liner, red intake.


I'm happy now since I saved over the years and finally added a turbo. Also gave me time to appreciate NA power.


There will always be something newer or shinier.

JD001 01-03-2020 03:44 PM

[quote=mrg666;3287362]
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Originally Posted by ApoNono (Post 3282644)
and it isn't badged as a Scion ;)/QUOTE]

I really don't care if the car is Toyota, Subaru, or Scion.

I do. It had to be a Subaru.. And WRB!! Subaru heart, made in a Subaru factory.. Walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it must be Scion.. nah, don't think so..

Dadhawk 01-03-2020 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by YamahaR86 (Post 3287870)
Same for me. I've paid off my car. Only thing I want are minor: Leather Seats, ....

Guess it just goes to show how different folks can be (or maybe just how odd I am). I hate leather seats. In fact, in cars where there are more trim levels, I'll go down a level just to avoid them. I would definitely never "upgrade" decent cloth seats to leather.

YamahaR86 01-03-2020 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Dadhawk (Post 3287882)
Guess it just goes to show how different folks can be (or maybe just how odd I am). I hate leather seats. In fact, in cars where there are more trim levels, I'll go down a level just to avoid them. I would definitely never "upgrade" decent cloth seats to leather.


This would be my 2nd car (only rode motorcycles otherwise) and first time having cloth seats. I believe I prefer leather since it'd be a bit easier to clean as well. My 7 year old cloth seat has some weird sun damage and I use the sunshade every chance I get.



With cloth seats, I have to vacuum but I think if I had leather seats I can brush/wipe. I think I may have to rent one of those wet vacuum cleaners from the hardware store.

mrg666 01-03-2020 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dadhawk (Post 3287882)
Guess it just goes to show how different folks can be (or maybe just how odd I am). I hate leather seats. In fact, in cars where there are more trim levels, I'll go down a level just to avoid them. I would definitely never "upgrade" decent cloth seats to leather.

Leather is less durable and less comfortable. I would also prefer a good quality fabric/cloth.

Dadhawk 01-03-2020 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by mrg666 (Post 3287918)
Leather is less durable and less comfortable. I would also prefer a good quality fabric/cloth.

Agreed on both counts.

Will BRZ 01-04-2020 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dadhawk (Post 3287882)
Guess it just goes to show how different folks can be (or maybe just how odd I am). I hate leather seats. In fact, in cars where there are more trim levels, I'll go down a level just to avoid them. I would definitely never "upgrade" decent cloth seats to leather.

Yeah I always found it weird when people/salesmen count leather seats as a nice “feature” Like no they’re not nice lol I don’t know guess it’s a luxury thing :iono: I’ve had leather before and I definitely prefer cloth.

Will BRZ 01-04-2020 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by mrg666 (Post 3287362)
I really don't care if the car is Toyota, Subaru, or Scion.

I got shamed into buying a Subaru lmao I was looking at a red FR-S, but ended up with a BRZ. It was a bit more expensive, but it was everything I wanted and more. Plus I get to hang with the Subie boys haha
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Originally Posted by YamahaR86 (Post 3287870)
I'm happy now since I saved over the years and finally added a turbo. Also gave me time to appreciate NA power.


There will always be something newer or shinier.

I really like that mindset. I know there’s so many people who constantly trade-in because they can’t stand not having the latest and greatest. Just a big financial mistake from people who will never be satisfied. I know it’s nice to have the hottest new model, but why change something that doesn’t need to be.

ApoNono 01-06-2020 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by cys19 (Post 3287807)
What was it after taxes and fees?

28,000 and some change.

ApoNono 01-06-2020 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Will BRZ (Post 3287982)
I got shamed into buying a Subaru lmao I was looking at a red FR-S, but ended up with a BRZ. It was a bit more expensive, but it was everything I wanted and more. Plus I get to hang with the Subie boys haha


I really like that mindset. I know there’s so many people who constantly trade-in because they can’t stand not having the latest and greatest. Just a big financial mistake from people who will never be satisfied. I know it’s nice to have the hottest new model, but why change something that doesn’t need to be.

I wish I still had my 2013. It would be paid off and I could start looking into upgrading it. I was really proud to be a launch owner. But when I decided to get one again I initially gravitated towards the 2020 86 GT TRD until I found the 2019 86 TRD used.

The first thing I did the week after I brought it home was to upgrade the head unit with something not crappy that supports Apple CarPlay. For now I will just be happy to be in on again until it’s paid off and the figure out what’s next.

My initial thought was turbo but not sure.


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