I think I got ripped off... :(
 

Likely spam and stuff.

Oh Lord.... Bro why didnt you read the performance tuning thread on here first? No bro that performance tuning chip thing wont do anything. Get an Ecutek tune or OFT V2 (which is bs imo). I hope you didnt pay a lot for it and can get a refund.

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Welcome to the forum.

I would read through the tech sections for information on all the parts you listed.

Intakes do not add much power, if any, to these cars. Additionally, Cat backs are mainly for sound. Add one if you like, but you are not going to gain as much as with a proper tune + header



For adding power to a NA car: Look into OFT (open flash tablet + header + e85 if available) Or, depending on your total goals, look into ECUTEK + your desired mods.

If you are going to go FI, plan on this from the start.

:cheers:

Got any links? Our BS detectors are pretty good, otherwise we can't offer much advice.

What did you pay with? If it’s Paypal/VISA and seller is refusing a refund, Paypal will refund your money and VISA will do a chargeback

I'm not sure of any other way to flash the ECU without removing it, other than through the OBD2 port.

They are a scam. I am sorry to say you got ripped off.

Very short post i'll make since I only have a few minutes.

Do not bother with an intake unless you have FI. Such as the intake that comes WITH the Edelbrock supercharger kit. Just get an aftermarket air filter which has proven it moves more air than the OEM and you can save money for other parts. The OEM intake is already cold air and very optimized besides maybe a snorkel redesign which there is also an aftermarket snorkel.


Get headers. (EL provides about 5 more whp than UEL and more top end power but UEL provides more low-mid range power and is less powerful but sounds great)

Get a header back system with resonators and baffles so you dont drone or get pulled over for an obnoxious loud exhaust. OEM is fine if you are on an ultra budget. If you want to go FI then 3 inch header back systems are proven for more power.

If you have E85 near you, get that... but you will need a tune first before you fill her up. Cheap race fuel.

Lastly, Get a legit tune so your ECU can maximize all these aftermarket parts you bought.. which is what these "performance chip" companies are trying to scam off of. Two methods of tunes are OFT and ECUtek which do go into the OBD2 port but OFT has a library of tunes available for amateur DIY'rs and ECUtek is more for E-Tunes from reputable tuners such as Delicious Tuning and a local shop to you that can contact them.


Those are quick tips for maximum NA bolt on power for a FA20. You can always get lighter wheels/tires/drivetrain components for a bit better power to weight ratio but... this is how its done on the FA20. There are no "performance chips" and honestly I think on all platforms that is a scam. Modifying the code of the original ECU is always the way, from what i've learned at least. Even worse to say.. and this is the anxiety part of me.. who knows what this "performance chip" did to your ECU, odds are nothing but introducing anything that was not researched specifically for the platform is a very bad idea.

Just making use of the forum's stickies --> https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29340

That too! Wow, I learned something new. There are more than ECUtek and OFT lol. Never heard of Hydra EMS 2.7, BRZedit, or Unichip before!

First nice car you ever owned and then you want to try and mess it up?



A flash/tune isn't as simple thing as plug and play. You have to know at least the basics of what it is doing. Adjusting A/F Ratios, Timings, Throttle Response, etc. What if it runs rich? lean? throwing engine codes? that would be the next problem.



You should keep it stock, drive it around for a while then decide what you'd like to improve on.


Take it as a lesson learned to do more research on discussion forums before just buying what a friend says.

How did you buy a chip? You can't even select your car from their drop-down menu. Also, did you specify the 16-cylinder engine? https://www.performancechiptuning.co...d2-for-toyota/

To be fair.. When I took my car to my tuner to install the ecutek. I had no clue about the tech parameters and how AFRs worked, or anything. But that's what im paying them for. Later on I learned through reading but... Paid my tuner for that service.

Agreed with the rest

I think it was this:


http://www.jdmperformancechip.com/sh.../selectProduct


Which another forum links to the scam website:


https://www.scambook.com/company/vie...rmancechip.com

hmph...clearly some unedumacated folks in here...oh well, jokes on them guess i'll be the only one twin with ova 9000 newton meters of torque from a $15.99 chip from ebay


^^

I didn't know about some parameters until 2 months ago. I went turbo with an E-Tune (after 6-7 years of owning the car). I started having problems since I can feel the car having issues. Looked at my tables, did a ton of research and my numbers were off. High fuel trims, AFR wasn't as stable end result was loose hose (EVAP Hose). Learning about engine knock, timing degrees.


I wouldn't say I'm knowledgeable about cars or tuning but I knew what I was getting into and was dedicated enough to research everything. I don't want to sound like I'm gatekeeping but people who are new to the car scene love to listen to others around them or at shows. They add mods but don't know what they do. Such as sway bars, strut bars. They upgrade them but don't know how it affects the handling or changes the car.

Some people don't know a good thing when it staring at them [emoji23]

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OH GOD that site even LOOKS like a scam. Even the "reviews" are phony as hell.

TBH I wouldn't even click the link without some kind of ad blocker protection and stuff.

Might have malicious code and stuff running there, and that's before even deciding to willingly give them CC info. yikes.

Used the iPhone to check so I felt relatively safe.

Hahaha I had not looked at it. It looks like it has an STD

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It looks like it IS a STD!

Yep, I agree with @YamahaR86 as he posted up above.

Your car is just fine the way it came off the boat, for average fun driving.

The more you mess with the car, the more it will mess with you.


humfrz

Do you even know why you want a chip?

Why not learn to drive first?
Take that $200 and spend in on a racing coach at a track day.

Ahh, yes. From the drop-down lists on the site it appears I can get a "performance chip" for my 1950 Mazda Miata with a V10 engine. I wish I knew this sooner! :thanks:
https://i.ibb.co/GFQHTjN/1-FBE7376-4...-A3-AAFBAA.jpg

Typical :bs: response from Joveen. OFT is just a tool that you can use to flash a tune to the car, datalog, and view running status. The actual tuning is not done in anything made by openflash. Crying about an off the shelf tune with OFT is no different if you got a bad off the shelf tune from Ecutek.

Ya, I got one - it works great, really peps that old girl up - :burnrubber:


humfrz

OFT sucker following my comments it seems. OFT is bs. The price for that trash is a rip off. Do yourself a favor op and get ecutek.

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no, you didn't. you [mis]understood that a specific product increased your vehicles capabilities. you purchased said product from a company offering to sell it.

they delivered the product as promised.

you note of no adverse effects of using the product, but say that the information that you used to justify purchasing the product changed afterwards.

that is a mistake. that is experience. that is learning.

take this as a lesson to be more diligent in your research, move on, and enjoy life.

I agree. The OFT would be a good choice for a novice if it was like $150-ish, but $500 for a DS with one screen is just ridiculous.

And the V2 just upgraded it to a DSi with one screen instead of a DS.

It's not ideal, but for us DIY'ers it is serviceable. I'd rather not try to datalog on track with a tactrix hooked up to my laptop in the car.

It's also possible to get a bad custom tune that was simply applied with Ecutek.

Even in 1950 Mazda couldn't make a front end that didn't look ridiculous!










Before I get 100 corrections I know it is not a 1950 Miata

And how much experience do you have with tuning cars?

I mean, you get the same level of functionality as ecutek if you know what your doing, been using an OFT for a few years now with no issues and a decent power bump with safe datalogging values on e85 and 93.

A tune is only as good as it's tuner.

I'm curious what issues you had with your OFT at some point or had heard?

Could you tell any difference when you plugged it in?

Am I the only one who recognized the original post as spam?

Really?

And he got this group to talk about or around his product for three pages without even providing a link. I wonder how many clicks this has generated.

Worst spam ever then.
"My product sucks and I am not even going to link to it"?
Not spam just a guy wondering if he got ripped off and getting an answer.

No, it's spam, and pretty clever at that. There are a couple of tells:

"Well, the one I ended up buying was from JDM on some performancechiptuning website that actually looks shady now that I think of it."

Nobody except the spammer would type that run together exactly the way the website URL appears. I suspect he originally typed performancechiptuning.com, realized that people would recognize the spam and removed the .com from the end. The first thing most of us would do is search for performancechiptuning to see what the hell he's talking about and find his website at the very top of the search results.

Written that way, he doesn't have to actually link to the site. His marks (or a compatriot posting under a different name) will do it for him.

He's also using a clever substitution technique that Trump often uses for persuasion:

"Well anyways, the one I bought plugs into the OBD2 port and then I read that you can't program the ECU from the OBD2 port, so any performance chip that plugs into the ODB2 port is a scam."

That sets up an irrelevant, unrelated discussion where people who might otherwise immediately say it's a scam find themselves defending his product... against him. It's misdirection that continues to draw attention to his website while people discuss the red herring. The substitution comes when people agree that he's wrong about programming via the OBDII port, so it must also be wrong that "any performance chip that plugs into the ODB2 port is a scam." Logically that doesn't follow, but he has effectively linked them together so that doubt about one leads to doubt about the other.

Finally, he's also using a persuasion technique called "pacing and leading." That's where you identify your mark's position, agree with it to get their buy-in (pacing), then move in the direction you want the mark to follow (leading). It's an extremely effective technique.

It's pretty common for people on automotive message boards to immediately respond to posts about aftermarket chips with derision. So he paces that expected position, starting out saying he thinks the chip he bought is a scam. I strongly suspect that a subsequent poster is a compatriot (or the same guy with a different login) who picks up the leading part and steers people toward thinking some of these products actually are legit. Even if it's not, the leading is still there in the substitution mentioned above.

Yu could be over analyzing the whole thing.
It is however odd that he never said as much as "thanks guys" even though he was online just this morning.