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edrokone 11-24-2019 03:23 AM

First things first, what should i get in my new BRZ?
 
Friends! how's it going? Im finally getting my BRZ on monday. Im thinking of getting a Intake to start things off on my project. Any recommendations? I'd like to hear from some of your experiences and advice on what to get. Thanks!

Will BRZ 11-24-2019 03:38 AM

Hey man welcome! Congratulations on your new car. I think you should keep it stock for a bit. Take some time to get used to it before you start switching things up. After you do, make sure you have a vision of what you want the car to be and that of course is determined by what the primary use of the car is, your budget etc. These cars are pretty good from factory, but better tires make a huge difference in how it feels. If you want a bit more power, catless headers and tune will get you that. There is an enormous amount of aftermarket support for this platform so just do some research and see what you like. There's plenty of info here as well. Good luck :thumbsup:

Clutch Dog 11-24-2019 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Will BRZ (Post 3277953)
Hey man welcome! Congratulations on your new car. I think you should keep it stock for a bit. Take some time to get used to it before you start switching things up. After you do, make sure you have a vision of what you want the car to be and that of course is determined by what the primary use of the car is, your budget etc. These cars are pretty good from factory, but better tires make a huge difference in how it feels.up:

Second on the same sort of mods

with a word of caution.
Stickier tires ( even a 225) will make the car seem less darty and "fun" and make the lack of power more apparent.

Keep it stock for a bit and let the car tell you what it needs.

Overall there's alot of fun to be had on the car for some simple bolt ons.
OFT with e85 tune
Header
Tires
Associated brakes and brake fluid.
Diff and trans fluid
AOS
and finally a oil cooler for serious track usage.

That's about as fun as you can get with it being mostly stock
You could do shocks and springs. I think the sachs dampers with sti associated lowering springs is dynamite. The koni with eibach is a decent set up as well. and then you start looking at sway bars. 20mm front and 18mm rear is about as stiff as you wanna go with skinnier tires.
then the rabbit hole gets deeper from there.

86MLR 11-24-2019 04:31 AM

Tyres

Intake is a waste of money

Even with a big budget, for intake, a drop in filter would be as far as I go.

I would start with handling mods, but shop smart, don't buy anything that will be replaced down the road.

Alot, and I mean alot, of modifications available are not required, or, there are are other ways to achieve a certain goal, as stated above, swaybars are one way, me, I wouldn't, and didn't change my swaybars, I went with different dampers and springs to achieved my desired result, both modifications will allow you to tweek the handling characteristics, but both do it differently.

Tuning solutions, there's a few, some go OFT, I went Ecutek

Exhausts, when NA I went decatted OEM header and cat back and got great results, other went a different way and got typical results, but with a diffetent sound.

The questions you need to ask is "what do I want from my car", track, street, hard parked stupidity, from there work out a budget, your budget will dictate what mods you get, hopefully the mods you get show a reward.

The other thing to look at is your local rules and regulations, modifications and emmisions for your area can also dictate what you do.

Read every build thread, don't spend 1 cent on mods till you do.

Have fun, and stick to your budget.

Oh, and adding 8 psi makes these things awesome fun, totally screws the budget, but awesome fun.

JonaVrum 11-24-2019 09:02 AM

Hey BRZ fans. I’m purchasing a 2020 just for a fun commuter car and wondering about some of the dealership available options: kicker subwoofer, STI short throw shifter, rear diffuser.

Anyone have experience with any of these for feedback? Looking forward to my new cruise mobile!

TommyW 11-24-2019 11:25 AM

Leave it stock for awhile and learn what the car is about. After living with it for awhile you’ll have a better idea about what your needs are.

HaXx 11-24-2019 11:40 AM

intakes dont do ANYTHING, get a catback, its an easy at home install, you dont need a tune, and it adds so much to the presence of the car

Breadman 11-24-2019 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by HaXx (Post 3277983)
intakes dont do ANYTHING, get a catback, its an easy at home install, you dont need a tune, and it adds so much to the presence of the car


catbacks just reduce weight and change the sound... if you are going for more power there are only 3 things that are "cheap". drop in filter, catless headers, flex fuel tune.

mav1178 11-24-2019 02:27 PM

as always, the question you have to ask yourself is:

are you modding for the sake of modding? or are you trying to correct/improve a deficiency in the car?

If you mod for the sake of modding, just go see what's trending on Instagram or Facebook or whatever you think you like. Intakes are a waste of money to some, but to others the sound is worth the cost.

If you're trying to improve some aspect of the car, you should list out what you don't like about the car and go from there...

Vague questions bring about a wide variety of answers, someone will answer it correctly but it's a lot of chatter without real feedback.

scotto79 11-24-2019 02:44 PM

All I have done to mine so far are a drop in K&N filter and lighter 17" wheels, keeping the stock tires to keep the grip down and the low power commute more fun.

BlueWhelan 11-24-2019 03:01 PM

If handling is the emphasis (and it probably is since you bought a BR-Z and not a Challenger), a simple set of camber bolts +an alignment for the front suspension will make the single biggest difference you can hope for under $200. That would be the first thing I do. Then a better set of tires.

From there, save your money and don’t make any impulse buys until you’re sure you know what YOU want.

PS - the best money spent on these cars is on auto-x and HPDEs. Start there. [emoji1303]


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Clutch Dog 11-24-2019 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JonaVrum (Post 3277967)
Hey BRZ fans. I’m purchasing a 2020 just for a fun commuter car and wondering about some of the dealership available options: kicker subwoofer, STI short throw shifter, rear diffuser.

Anyone have experience with any of these for feedback? Looking forward to my new cruise mobile!

for cruising?
footwell lightning, premium package interior, clear bumper applique. and the subwoffer. skip the shifter. its not really worth it. and exterior stuff can be had cheaper at bayson

JD001 11-24-2019 05:24 PM

^^^^ you forgot underglow^^^^

dodj 11-24-2019 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by edrokone (Post 3277950)
Friends! how's it going? Im finally getting my BRZ on monday. Im thinking of getting a Intake to start things off on my project. Any recommendations? I'd like to hear from some of your experiences and advice on what to get. Thanks!

You should do nothing for at least a year....
That should give you time to decide what you think could be a little different/better in your car.
IMO, modding is down to personal taste.
Enjoy it as is for a while!

Grady 11-24-2019 06:59 PM

As soon as you get home remove any dealer names license plate frames installed.

First week install the perrin intake tube and throw the sound tube in the trash.

Then put around 2k on it and see what you would want next.

Dave-ROR 11-24-2019 07:42 PM

I must be doing it wrong. My latest 86 will have around $9,000-$10,000 in mods before I even start it, let alone drive it.

86MLR 11-24-2019 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave-ROR (Post 3278079)
I must be doing it wrong. My latest 86 will have around $9,000-$10,000 in mods before I even start it, let alone drive it.

Nah mate, your doing it right.

dodj 11-24-2019 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave-ROR (Post 3278079)
I must be doing it wrong. My latest 86 will have around $9,000-$10,000 in mods before I even start it, let alone drive it.

Ya, you are.

86MLR 11-24-2019 09:36 PM

Modified = Good

Standard = Bad

Opinions may vary, just like budgets

why? 11-24-2019 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonaVrum (Post 3277967)
Hey BRZ fans. I’m purchasing a 2020 just for a fun commuter car and wondering about some of the dealership available options: kicker subwoofer, STI short throw shifter, rear diffuser.

Anyone have experience with any of these for feedback? Looking forward to my new cruise mobile!

They suck. Any sub in walmart will be better and far cheaper. You can get a decent useful subwoofer for what they charge for the pile of garbage that kicker thing really is.

Some people like the STI short shifter, some people think there isn't enough of a difference for what it costs. If I ever change the shifter I will buy the CAE Ultra Shifter. https://cae-racing.de/CAE-Ultra-Shifter_2059 You can't get more over the top but it's the best thing out there.

Diffuser is all about looks. I think that's a total waste, but then again I'm an asshole that doesn't give a crap about looks. If you like the way it looks then sure go for it. But make sure you do a complete look at every aftermarket option because they will all most likely be less money.

jflogerzi 11-25-2019 12:08 AM

Don't waste your money on any mods yet... But intakes are a waste. Drive it bone stock. After that it depends on what you want to do. If you have an e85 station then OFT and run 85. Maybe next some extra grip and some springs. RCE yellows or eibach pros are may favorites. You can go down a very large rabbit hole so be careful lol

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jflogerzi 11-25-2019 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave-ROR (Post 3278079)
I must be doing it wrong. My latest 86 will have around $9,000-$10,000 in mods before I even start it, let alone drive it.

Your a second time owner this you know exactly what you want out of the car

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Breadman 11-25-2019 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Grady (Post 3278070)
As soon as you get home remove any dealer names license plate frames installed.

First week install the perrin intake tube and throw the sound tube in the trash.

Then put around 2k on it and see what you would want next.


this is exactly what i did the first time i took it across the state and realized how loud that generator is

beltax90 11-25-2019 01:28 AM

exhaust

86MLR 11-25-2019 02:54 AM

AVO turbo

Tcoat 11-25-2019 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jflogerzi (Post 3278153)
Your a second time owner this you know exactly what you want out of the car

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Actually he is about a 8 or 9 times owner now.

Dave-ROR 11-25-2019 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3278210)
Actually he is about a 8 or 9 times owner now.

hahaha I think only 5 or 6?

13 BRZ
15 BRZ
3x13 FR-S

Oh yeah another 13 FR-S gets delivered later this week too. So 6...

Wait, forgot about the 14 BRZ I owned for a couple months (technically) while building it for Aaron.. so 7 I suppose.

Dave-ROR 11-25-2019 10:51 AM

For the OP though on a serious note.. it depends on your goals.

If you plan to just enjoy the car on the street, leave it stock for now. See what you want to fix. Sticky tires are great for braking/etc but they do take some of the fun out of these cars on the street.

If you plan to track it, sticky tires, brake pads and fluid. Then learn the car for several events and then consider changing it.

JD001 11-25-2019 11:00 AM

I started changing stuff after about 6months of driving and reading/researching this Forum. The following items listed in chronological order:

Ceramic coating
Dropped height, spacers and camber bolts
UEL, OP, FP & drop in filter
Tune & CAI
Engine and transmission mounts upgraded

I am very happy with this lot.. next is the tyres... But don't have the heart to throw out the OEMs as they only have circa 12.5k miles..

KMA KiCKz 11-25-2019 03:42 PM

Congrats on the new car and welcome to the community!

I'd say keep it 100% stock for the time being, especially if you are afraid of voiding your warranty. Eh, life's too short, mod it how you like :thumbsup:

By keeping it stock, it'll make you appreciate the car as is. Through experience with the car, you'll know what mods would work for you. It would depend on your vision of your car as well(i.e. Track, Stance, DD, etc.)

I didn't mod my car until around 6 months or so. Even then, it was just minor mods.

My recommendation for a first mod would be a Catback/Axleback Exhaust. Having an exhaust wouldn't give much power gains but it’ll definitely make it sound better.

My recommendations for future mods:
- Header and tune
- Wheels
- Tires
- Suspension
- Brakes

Leonardo 11-25-2019 04:21 PM

Everyone says to keep it stock for a bit... But, that's not why I bought mine. I started modding my car as soon as I parked it in my driveway.

Anyway, I had to change a few things right away. My first mod was to unplug the relay that turns on one headlight at half power as the Day Time Running light. I feel that this was a STUPID way of adding a running light. So I deactivated it.

TINT - I tinted the windows in the first few days.
10" SUB - My car had the base stereo - adding a sub was a must.
LED interior lights. - I replaced all the interior lights with LED lights I made.
17x7.5 wheels - the stock wheels on my 13 were UGLY!
Lowered 1" on ProKit springs - I installed them myself. The wheel gap bothered me.

Then, my car was good to go for awhile... :cheers:

jochfr 12-17-2019 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Leonardo (Post 3278328)
Everyone says to keep it stock for a bit... But, that's not why I bought mine. I started modding my car as soon as I parked it in my driveway.

Anyway, I had to change a few things right away. My first mod was to unplug the relay that turns on one headlight at half power as the Day Time Running light. I feel that this was a STUPID way of adding a running light. So I deactivated it.

TINT - I tinted the windows in the first few days.
10" SUB - My car had the base stereo - adding a sub was a must.
LED interior lights. - I replaced all the interior lights with LED lights I made.
17x7.5 wheels - the stock wheels on my 13 were UGLY!
Lowered 1" on ProKit springs - I installed them myself. The wheel gap bothered me.

Then, my car was good to go for awhile... :cheers:

Which Sub did you get?

Leonardo 12-17-2019 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jochfr (Post 3283828)
Which Sub did you get?


Right now I am running a 10 in a box that's too small. It was more of an experiment. I have it powered on an amp that I took out of a TS-WX50 Pioneer powered sub. It's only 50watts...

I have had 3 different 10" woofers. (and one 6.75" woofer) I built 4 different boxes for the 10" woofers and two different for the 6.75".

I have been looking here: https://www.parts-express.com/

At dayton audio subs... Specifically these:

https://www.parts-express.com/dayton...ProductDetails

https://www.parts-express.com/dayton...-coil--295-510

I am planning on building a small box that fits inside my full size spare 18x8 wheel in my trunk. I have a prototype box built now to test the placement. I like the 10" subs I have been playing with, but am leaning towards the 8" dayton in a 0.5 cubic foot sealed box. We will see....


Thanks.

e30kawi 12-19-2019 10:53 PM

Not sure where you live but ceramic tint was the first thing I did, then arm rest and had the outside polished and ceramic coated. Did all of them within the first two weeks. Finally got some different tires at 13k miles, what a difference they made. Nothing over the top, but some uhp all seasons. Next up I think is a JRSC as my commute is about to go from 70 miles a day to 7.

extrashaky 12-20-2019 12:59 AM

I'd suggest a Tullock spike.

ben721364 12-20-2019 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by edrokone (Post 3277950)
Friends! how's it going? Im finally getting my BRZ on monday. Im thinking of getting a Intake to start things off on my project. Any recommendations? I'd like to hear from some of your experiences and advice on what to get. Thanks!

Professional high performance driver training.

Tokay444 12-20-2019 10:26 AM

Driver mod.

Lantanafrs2 12-20-2019 02:28 PM

If you're buying an intake, you haven't done enough reading here. Drive it for awhile first before doing anything

Jordanwolf 12-20-2019 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edrokone (Post 3277950)
Friends! how's it going? Im finally getting my BRZ on monday. Im thinking of getting a Intake to start things off on my project. Any recommendations? I'd like to hear from some of your experiences and advice on what to get. Thanks!

Unless you want to get absolutely shit on, do a lot more research. Especially if the car is a 17+.

Inazuma 12-22-2019 10:54 PM

I drove it for a year fully stock even on the track. Then drove it the second year on the track with stickier tires and a few handling mods (KW V3, sway bars snd strut bars). Now I added a Cosworth supercharger kit and can't wait to get it back on the track next spring.
It is really a good experience to increase the handling before you increase the power. You'd be amazed at how much you can gain from this. I gained 5 seconds on a 2:00 minutes track and 3 on a 50 seconds track just by handling. I expect to gain maybe one second on the short track and probably another 5 seconds on the long one with the power.
We'll see next year...


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