Would you wait 12 months?
 

I'm sorta disappointed with Toyota. The most hyped-up, over-marketed vehicle in years, and the best they can do is say "it's a 12-18 month wait".

Not that it's really phased my decision (deposit down). I'm just annoyed.

What's the skinny on this? Is it just to produce a more exclusive vibe or did they really underestimate the demand for these cars?

Why is it so hard for people to understand?

For the price this car has NO competition.

You cannot walk into a dealership and walk out with a 2 door RWD sports car brand new for under $43-34k...

This opens up the market to a whole lot of people who other wise would not be able to afford a $70k+ 370z or similer...

No shit they didn't expect this much, the factory cannot supply more cars to Aus it can't handle it.

Relax, man. You seem kinda pissed! Do you work at Toyota or something?

Anyway, I know a few people who were willing to fork out for one, but got turned off the waiting period and decided to get something else. Sorta doesn't make Toyota look that great, considering the amount of exposure the car is getting in advertising, media, etc. They're also losing some coin.

My dealer mentioned out of the 5 or so orders that have been placed, he expects at least 1 or 2 to bail, which means I'll move up the cue. Dunno, it all sounds a bit fabricated to me. Other dealers have confirmed with their stock controllers stock in November. Mind you, these 2 dealers are allied dealership within the same area.

Was told what the wait is and happy to wait as long as it takes. Would I like it now? Hell yes, but waiting comes with other benefits. We should get some of the UK's allotment, but it won't happen so have to be patient

Ordred in may, estimated january. Not happy to wait, but at least I know it'll be worth it. Other brands have similar waiting times, and it's not even new models. I guess it's just that the car itself is so exciting the wait seems infinitely longer.

Wow. That's an eternity. Who knows what kind of cars will come out during that period.

I am not sure as to what your budget is and I am unsure of what cars cost in Australia.

Perhaps there's a nice sports car out there waiting for you.

I put down the deposit for a white MT just before Christmas 2011. Dealer told me I was going to get it Aug/Sept, but now it has been delayed by 2 months. Of course I wasn't too happy about that, but I am sure it will be well worth the wait.

Cars are generally pricier in Oz than everywhere else. I've had my heart set on a 370Z for the longest time, then along came the 86...

Look, at the end of the day, I don't mind waiting because it is worth it. I just wanted to separate dealer bullshit from actual fact.

I have been waiting 19 months since I decided I'm getting the 86. Still another 2 months to go.

Of course its worth the wait. (Well it is for me)

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Well my dealer told me the demand for MT in Japan is far greater than estimated and I can have my car a lot sooner if I want an AT instead. Being a stubborn MT guy I declined.

I am already waiting for my lease to expire so its not a big deal! Gives me time to decide whiteout or Hot Lava :/

Are these cars really so difficult to get? I called maybe 6 dealers and found exactly what I wanted and picked it up the next week. 2 of those dealers called me back in less than a month and told me they now have the car I wanted available. Is it because of the part of the country I'm in?

I placed an order a few months back. My main concern is that a new model year is coming. If I don't get my car in October as promised......Or by Christmas, I will want the next year model.

I suspect that A/NZ is at the end of the pipeline. If you are asking if it is worth it to wait 12 months, I think it is.

Toyota/Subaru r pumping these out as fast as they can..... Until global demand slows they will not bring out a new model.... There is a wait list of atleast 12 months so they say....

The 86 is still in early days as well with not many on the streets to be seen by the public an bring even more interest...

It has not been shown on the likes of Top Gear watched by millions world wide that will no doubt bring even more sales..

If ur waiting on a new model to be released expect to wait atleast 2 yrs we dont mind...

My turbo 86 will still be faster than ur 2015 86 at the track...... Lol......

i work at toyota and asked around and this is the answer i got


we usealy build 500 cars a day per shift and 5 days a week so that means if there runnin like we are they build 50000 cars a week ... sounds like ALOT but when u brake it down to how many toyota delerships there are in the usa and all over the world it takes time to fill these spots up and stay with the demand...

Except his 2015 86 will probably not have that annoying torque dip, better interior build quality, and he can probably get the (supposed) TRD supercharger installed by the factory so he won't be plagued by Turbo lag + be covered by warranty.

Wait lists are common for cars new or even cars that are a model year behind. It varies from dealership to dealership because cars are allocated depending on the dealership's sales figures. Highly desirable products go to the best sales people because they will just fly off the lots. If your dealership is having trouble getting an 86, it's a good reflection of how that Dealership performs. While they CAN have an 86 transferred from one dealership to the other, it costs them money to do so and usually not worth it because consumers would generally not want to pay the fee if they're still on the fence.

If they say 12 months then just wait for the 2014. Get on the waiting list for it and when they accept pre-order deposits for it, go for it. Assuming the 2014 releases the same day as the 2013, you'll get your car two months earlier than waiting for the 2013.

U get what u pay for... That type of 2015 model u speak of wouldnt be cheap........

One of the difference that i see,
People, many people are buying this car.
Other cars in its class, people are buying less at this time, because theyve been on the market for a while.

This car is completely new, so the many people who followed the development, are trying to buy it, the people who never seen the car and checking it out and discovering it, are buying it. And people being influenced by all the positive media attention are buying it.

Since its new, it hasn't had its time to settle on the market enough so all the people who wanted to buy it, already have it.

Other cars, im sure had high demand when it was first introduced. But they've been around for time to help demand pan out.

I'd leave a deposit, file away the papers that say its refundable, and if something comes along in the waiting period that you like better get your money back and get what you want.

Off-topic and kind of a thread jack but since cars are more expensive in AUS, what are the prices of other things in comparison?

For instance, the FRS (base GT86 there) is $25k USD. But 92 octane here is $4/us Gallon (3.8L/Gal) = $1.05/Liter.

Insurance here varies dramatically from person to person and company to company but in WA State the sales tax on the car is 10% adding another $2500 to the price.

Just curious and sorry for the derailment.

Hell i have to wait at least 12 months so i can finish up my degree/certs, land a good job and save up a decent enough chunk of change before i can get one! It's one of many incentives for doing well at the last leg and pounding my fist on everyone's door later.

If I had to wait for 12 months, I would be upset :(
Too bad they can't just increase the production number like they did with Prius C.

I'm waiting a year or so

Why is everyone complaining about having to wait?? There are over 300 of them listed on autotrader. If you can afford to purchase the car you can afford to purchase a plane ticket to fly a state or two over to pick one up.

I love you guys but:

[ame="www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJuNgBkloFE"]Americans are NOT stupid - WITH SUBTITLES - YouTube[/ame]

Why are you calling me stupid? :iono:

Thats a small selected few to prove an point but actually that is where America seems to be going, imo. Can't even answer some of the simplest questions.

haha Whoops, please accept my sincere apology.

If you really want an FR-S, you have to be more aggressive. It is poisslbe to have one without waiting 3 or 6 months. If you go to one dealer and place one deposit, then yes, you will wait for months.

The key is to find that one person at the dealership that is willing to help you. You may have to call a few places to find someone to help you. They can search your region for one with your preference (color, transmission) available within say 300 miles. Then you can call that dealership to see if someone has already placed a deposit. Not everyone will help you, so you may have to call around to find someone that will. It takes time for them. The guy that found mine called me back after 10 min.

If there are none, then don't just call once. Check every few days or few weeks. Eventually, one will show up. Usually in the more remote areas, so you will have to be willing to drive for it.

I did it this way and got mine within 2 days wait and 300+ mile drive. It will take time and a lot of phone calls. After I picked it up, I called to get back the 2 deposits I had placed at other local dealers and they honored the refund.

This won't work for everyone, but it may work for those few people that really don't want to wait until winter to get theirs like me.

Pretty sure no one involved in this discussion wants an FR-S. It's already winter here.

If your waiting a year might as well get the 2014, most of kinks of the first year first gen will be worked out and hopefully a bigger supply by then as well.

I think the Northeast got the first few shipments once they ramped up deliveries. I put a deposit down 2/29/12, the night before the US could preorder and enter it into the system and got mine 5/30/12. Granted I was lucky being the first at that dealer and got an early shipment, but I would totally wait if I were doing it again. The only issue I had was they never gave me a tracking number VIN/VON or status update along the way. I had to keep bugging them, but ended up within the timeframe they stated I would receive it.

As others have already stated if you need to wait around a year, the next redesign (minor tweaks) will most likely be available by then. If I was waiting that long, I'd see what the news is around that time and make a more final decision then. In the meantime, try looking around a bit farther out.

Base GT here is 30k (before onroads) or 34k inclusive of all onroads (rego, compulsory third-party insurance etc)
92 octane I think is premium 98 RON here? Not 100% sure on that, but it's around $1.50/L average (ranges $1.45-$1.65)

Insurance for me (under 25 years old) is close to $2000 but not quite there.

We pay so much more than you guys haha

SO MANY MORE QUESTIONS!

I will have to start another thread. :(

yea here in aus were getting but hurt with car prices but oh well

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Guys try to be less post whorey and actually read the OP and thread before ya post! It was created by Australians a Norweigan and a Hong Kongese to discuss their long wait times on the Toyota 86. We won't wait for a 2014 model because it's 2012 and that's two years away. This website is not FRSClub.com.us. End rant. :)

This is a US forum. Was it mentioned in the post anywhere that the OP is not in the US? Are we suppose to do detective work to find out where the poster is from before we reply? Shouldn't they post in the regional forum instead if they only want people in their own region to reply? What is the big deal anyway? We are just trying to help. Who do you think you are calling us Americans stupid? :paddle:

The author is from Sydney, very clear on his profile blurb on the left. Detective work enough mate? Perhaps the ensuing discussion might have been a clue?

In any event, no need to be agro with each other. The wait list over here sucks :(