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smg1138 10-29-2019 05:16 PM

Looking For a New Daily Tire
 
So, after clocking over 30k street miles, my Continental ExtremeContact Sports are finally dead. On the hunt now for a new set of daily drivers. I live in Nashville, TN which can get pretty cold in winter, but we don't usually see much snow. And on the rare days it does snow, I just work from home. lol That being said, what are you guys liking for street tires these days? I guess the Pilot Sport 4S is the new king, but they're real pricey. Guess I'm really looking for the best bang for the buck street tire. Any recommendations would be appreciated. :thanks:

i8ur911 10-29-2019 05:32 PM

What did you think of the Conti's?

Honestly I'd just run those again unless you didn't like them. I've run them multiple times on multiple cars and haven't found anything better in the price range and in the same category (yes, there's plenty of better that are 200TW).

I've also run Sumitomo "summers" (don't recall exact name) and for the price they were great.



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spike021 10-29-2019 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by i8ur911 (Post 3270821)
What did you think of the Conti's?

Honestly I'd just run those again unless you didn't like them. I've run them multiple times on multiple cars and haven't found anything better in the price range and in the same category (yes, there's plenty of better that are 200TW).

I've also run Sumitomo "summers" (don't recall exact name) and for the price they were great.



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Yeah, was about to ask the same thing.

Those Continentals are so good that I'm about to order a new set. They can be a little tricky if the road surface is cold, but otherwise aren't bad at all.

smg1138 10-29-2019 06:11 PM

Ideally, I'd like to find something with a symmetrical tread pattern. I have to run pretty aggressive camber most of the year for AutoX, so that leads to more inside camber wear. With a symmetrical tire, I can flip them on the rim when they start to wear unevenly. It may not be possible with street tires, but that's what I'm aiming for. The General G-MAX RS looks kind of interesting.

Shizuka 10-29-2019 08:03 PM

Falken Azenis FK510 has been great for me, can get them pretty cheap too. I'm -3 in the rear but at $130 a tire I'll just get new ones when they wear out :lol:

NWFRS 10-29-2019 08:33 PM

Not exactly performance tires, but I've been very happy with my Yokohama YK580s. I just put the YK740 gtx on my wife's car. I get the same entertainment from tire reviews as I get from reading Amazon reviews. "These Pirelli suck. They won't corner or brake worth **** on my 1986 Chevy Suburban. -John Doe in Wisconsin"

Spuds 10-29-2019 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by smg1138 (Post 3270833)
Ideally, I'd like to find something with a symmetrical tread pattern. I have to run pretty aggressive camber most of the year for AutoX, so that leads to more inside camber wear. With a symmetrical tire, I can flip them on the rim when they start to wear unevenly. It may not be possible with street tires, but that's what I'm aiming for. The General G-MAX RS looks kind of interesting.

I like my bfg gforce comp2 a/s (directional tread). I run these when temperatures drop below summer tires weather. Not particularly great in snow, a bit loud on the highway, but quite responsive and predictable.

Also, define cold.

NoHaveMSG 10-29-2019 10:06 PM

How much camber to you have? I am at over -3F and they wore pretty even until the very end. The last few hundred miles the insides went quickly but the whole tire was pretty much done at that point.

I decided to go with the Hankook Evo this round. I did really like the Conti's though.

i8ur911 10-29-2019 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by NoHaveMSG (Post 3270893)
How much camber to you have? I am at over -3F and they wore pretty even until the very end. The last few hundred miles the insides went quickly but the whole tire was pretty much done at that point.

I decided to go with the Hankook Evo this round. I did really like the Conti's though.

Agree. I'm at -3.5 and my Conti's have worn great (roughly 15k miles on them).

Typically if you're seeing inside tire wear, it's due to toe, not negative camber.

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smg1138 10-29-2019 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by NoHaveMSG (Post 3270893)
How much camber to you have? I am at over -3F and they wore pretty even until the very end. The last few hundred miles the insides went quickly but the whole tire was pretty much done at that point.


I've got my crash bolts maxed out running -2.7 Front & -2.2 Rear. Sort of a compromise setup for AutoX and daily driving. I think the alignment was out of whack for a while which probably exacerbated the inside wear. The rest of the tire was down to the wear bars though.

smg1138 10-29-2019 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Shizuka (Post 3270864)
Falken Azenis FK510 has been great for me, can get them pretty cheap too. I'm -3 in the rear but at $130 a tire I'll just get new ones when they wear out :lol:

I've been reading really good things about those. Looks like they offer very good performance for the money.

gravitylover 10-30-2019 06:20 AM

I like my General GMax AS05's a lot. They're wearing very well, have been extremely predictable, are quiet enough on the highway, they're absolutely fantastic in the rain and they handle and ride nicely. I like them a lot more than the Conti EC's that I had before.

why? 10-30-2019 08:53 AM

I like General tires a lot. I have a set of the cheapest on my car for daily and they are awesome as long as you don't want ultimate traction. And by that I mean shifting from first to second at redline my stock car spins the tires for about 2 or 3 seconds. I enjoy sliding around a bit more than most seem to though.

DarkPira7e 10-30-2019 09:07 AM

Surprised nobody has mentioned the Hankook Ventus V12 Evo 2. One of the best daily tires I've felt.

Greenbean 10-30-2019 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by i8ur911 (Post 3270821)
What did you think of the Conti's?

Honestly I'd just run those again unless you didn't like them. I've run them multiple times on multiple cars and haven't found anything better in the price range and in the same category (yes, there's plenty of better that are 200TW).

I've also run Sumitomo "summers" (don't recall exact name) and for the price they were great.



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I agree buddy of mine runs the contis A/S and hes boosted (400hp). seems to do him well. he also daily's his car

NoHaveMSG 10-30-2019 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkPira7e (Post 3271003)
Surprised nobody has mentioned the Hankook Ventus V12 Evo 2. One of the best daily tires I've felt.

I'm on the Evo's now. I liked the Conti's more. The Evo feels a bit squishy.

DarkPira7e 10-30-2019 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by NoHaveMSG (Post 3271090)
I'm on the Evo's now. I liked the Conti's more. The Evo feels a bit squishy.

No doubt, the Continentals are a hard tire. I just think the Evos are a great runner up for a DD tire that lasts, handles, and is good in most all temps.

Leonardo 10-30-2019 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by NoHaveMSG (Post 3271090)
I'm on the Evo's now. I liked the Conti's more. The Evo feels a bit squishy.

I am on the Evo V12's too. I also feel that the sidewall is too "squishy".




OP, I was going to get MPS4S, but I bought a 4th car, so my FR-S budget has changed.

I will be trying a set of Indy 500's. Because: They have good reviews and are approx 1/2 the cost.

mrhayes1 11-01-2019 05:27 PM

I second the Hankook evo 2s. I had them and I think I got about 40K miles out of them. Tons of grip, but that fades with time as with all tires.

Running the conti extreme contact sport now cause I got a deal on them. Grip is not quite as good as Hankooks. Will see how they wear. If I don't get 40K miles at least I will go back to hankooks evo 2s.

venturaII 11-01-2019 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkPira7e (Post 3271003)
Surprised nobody has mentioned the Hankook Ventus V12 Evo 2. One of the best daily tires I've felt.

Hated them and couldn't wait for them to wear out. Did nothing particularly well except last longer than I wanted them to...really disappointing in the rain. I'm on my second set of Conti ExtremeContacts (first were DW, then V12 Evos, current ones are EC Sports), and think they're fantastic.

NoHaveMSG 11-01-2019 06:11 PM

I prefer the ECS over the Evo so far too, though I haven't worn out the Evo so I can't comment on mileage yet.

N_Raged 11-01-2019 06:30 PM

I had the Hankook V12's on my Saab 9-3 before and they didn't suit front-heavy FWD cars because of the really soft sidewalls. They were comfortable and quiet though.
I always thought that tire would fare better on lightweight RWD cars but I wanted more grip for spirited driving.

I would go Indy500 or S04 Pole Position for the more affordable price range, then if you have a larger budget then ExtremeContact Sport or Pilot Super Sports (if you can still find them).

venturaII 11-02-2019 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by NoHaveMSG (Post 3272063)
I prefer the ECS over the Evo so far too, though I haven't worn out the Evo so I can't comment on mileage yet.

If the Evo does one thing well, it's wear forever. They do get pretty loud as they wear, though most tires do. Honestly though, I thought they were harsher riding than either of the Contis. Of the two Conti models, I'd say the older ECDW had a slightly more comfortable ride than the newer ECS.

I'd rate the Evos along side Sumitomo HTR Z3, which I had before my first set of EC DW.

ROADRACER 11-02-2019 02:14 PM

I just replaced a set of Sumitomo HTRZ-3 tires with the Conti ECS. The improvement was huge. The wet and dry grip of the conti's is far far superior. I am very happy with them and think you may have a hard time finding anything much better in a street tire.

smg1138 11-03-2019 11:14 PM

Think I'm going to go with something in the UHP Summer tire category. Is there any way to find out sidewall stiffness? I don't want to end up with something that feels squishy on the road.

i8ur911 11-03-2019 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by smg1138 (Post 3272538)
Think I'm going to go with something in the UHP Summer tire category. Is there any way to find out sidewall stiffness? I don't want to end up with something that feels squishy on the road.

You're looking at 200TW rubber?

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mrhayes1 11-04-2019 07:38 PM

Are you on stock suspension? In comparing the V12 to the Contiextreme contact sport, the V12 is a better tire in many ways. More grip and the wet handling was amazing for me.

IMO, the only downside of the V12 is the soft sidewall. Contis have a stiffer sidewall but no way is grip as good.

i8ur911 11-04-2019 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by mrhayes1 (Post 3272831)
Are you on stock suspension? In comparing the V12 to the Contiextreme contact sport, the V12 is a better tire in many ways. More grip and the wet handling was amazing for me.

IMO, the only downside of the V12 is the soft sidewall. Contis have a stiffer sidewall but no way is grip as good.

I'd respectfully disagree. I used the Conti's as my "wet/rain" tire for TT this year and thought the grip was great.

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smg1138 11-04-2019 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by mrhayes1 (Post 3272831)
Are you on stock suspension?


I think that was directed at me? I'm on RCE Tarmac 2's with 400/400 spring rates. Suffice to say I can definitely handle aggressive tires with my suspension setup. I run RE-71R's for Autocross and HPDE stuff. In the past I've run Michelin PSS and Continental ECS for my street tires. But it seems like some of the UHP Summer tires can offer similar performance for significantly less coin. The Indy 500, FK510, and G-MAX RS all look promising for regular street duty.

HaXx 11-04-2019 11:17 PM

bfg gforce sport comp2's
theyre a 340 treadwear ultra high performance summer tire, slays in the rain too. it is possible to out drive them on a track, but you literally cannot buy more tire for the money. its what i dd with occasional track days.

they were initially recommended for dd w/ track days to me buy a pro racing instructor at monticello, a private membership only track in upstate ny. like jerry seinfeld is a member there lol. they are top notch racing instructors so i took his word when he said you cannot buy more tire for the price.

smg1138 11-05-2019 02:09 PM

@HaXx I like the wide tread on those! They’re symmetrical too which is a plus for me.

Trueweltall 11-05-2019 02:27 PM

I run General Tires AS-05's on both of my vehicles, no complaints. Before these tires were available I ran two sets of AS-03's on my last vehicle.

Jordanwolf 11-05-2019 02:46 PM

Yokohama ADVAN V105

HaXx 11-17-2019 11:31 PM

What did you go with?

TunaNoCrust 11-18-2019 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordanwolf (Post 3273136)

X2, one of the best DD tires I have run for the money

gravitylover 11-18-2019 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Trueweltall (Post 3273125)
I run General Tires AS-05's on both of my vehicles, no complaints. Before these tires were available I ran two sets of AS-03's on my last vehicle.

I have those too and not only is it no complaints I have nothing but good things to say about them. They're far more pleasant than the Conti EC was, they're easily as grippy, better in the rain and they're quieter. They also seem to be wearing better and they are more predictable on cold pavement, no snow yet to try them in that but I have very low expectations so it shouldn't be hard to exceed them.

RToyo86 11-18-2019 01:26 PM

Indy 500's are a great value proposition. They have stiffer sidewalls which should keep them relatively responsive.

I scored a set of MPS4S in stock size for an absolute steal with 85% tread. Zero complaints about them, tons of grip in all conditions. They even gripped well when temps got down to 5-10c before throwing on the snows. Cost of replacement is the only real downside as they are expensive.

The FK510 seems to be aimed at sport/luxury market. A grippy tire that has a bit less sidewall stiffness. If I went Falken I'd probably go with the RT615k+. Looked briefly at those but a 200TW tire is a bit much for daily use.

scuzzy 11-18-2019 03:48 PM

I'll second (or third?) the Indy 500's. I put a set of 225/45/17 on the PP wheels. I got them for $94 a tire direct from Firestone. They retain the playful nature of the stock Primacy's but the grip is waaaaay more predictable. Can't speak to their capability in the wet yet as I'm in California ands it's dry 9 months out of the year.


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