Is the Toyota 86 /FR-S Oil Filter the same?
 

I have recently had a problem with my Scion dealer here, so I'm looking to go to this other Toyota dealer to get my oil filters.

This Toyota dealer doesn't have thr Scion system so they can't confirm to me that it is the same part for the 86 and the FR-S. I don't see why it would be different but could somrone confirm to me it is indeed the same?

They're the same.

It sounds like the type of dealer that asks if you drive a auto or manual when they offer you wiper blades too.

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Some Oil filters from different brands are different diameters. Meaning that you can hove two filters that will screw into the port and work and look drastically different.



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The Subaru and Toyota filters are not the same.

Thanks, I called parts at this dealer and they told me they can't confirm they're indentical since they don't have the system to verify Scion parts. They told me they'll gladly sell it to me, but he can't check in his system.

I just wanted to double check that. I refuse to go to my Scion dealer after they tried to change the price on me for a job after I had already signed and paid something but before they started working on it.

I was asking between Scion and Toyota, but thanks for letting me know. I did not know that.

I just use WIX filters from the auto parts store. They work fine.

You know that Scions are just rebadged Toyota's right? Scion never made a car much less parts for them. Where on earth is there still a Scion dealer anyway?

All FRS/86/BRZs use the same filters. The part numbers may change but other than a possible logo stamped on the case they are all the same thing.

I buy my Subaru oil filters for my 86 on eBay in bulk.

Works out much cheaper.

I'll bet you a beer they are not only identical, but made in the same factory, just like The cars.

Yes, but there's also the model year, that changed a couple of things, probably all aesthetic but that 5HP might have come from somewhere so maybe there are some other minor changes along. I'm just double checking before I go ahead and spend money.

Scion dealers are dead, I know that, but Toyota dealers here that had Scion inside still have their Scion logos out here and the old non-Scion dealers try to get away with not dealing with Scions if they can. They still do, they just try to steer people somewhere else.

Lol dude why are you over thinking this? It's the same freaking oil filter. Save yourself the headache just buy them online from Amazon. Hell if your still paranoid, buy it online from a Toyota dealership. It's just that simple.

Or. If you want to be a baller get a nice pricy K&N filter, Mobile 1, or any brand name filter. :bonk:

I don't drink, but sure.
They're different. They're even different sizes externally. The Subaru one is bigger.
So here's how this is gonna go.
You're gonna EMT me the cost of the two filters. I'm going to go to a Toyota dealer and buy the Toyota filter. Then I'm going to buy the Subaru filter. I'll take photos and post them side by side (they're different). Then I'll cut them open with a slitting saw and show you where the real differences are. If I'm wrong, I'll EMT you your money back.
They're different, made in different factories.
Or you could take my work for it.
Or you could just look here. http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=135234

And I thought the oil weight threads were ridiculous.

They will both work equally well. They ALL come with the Subaru one from the factory. The Toyota one is so slightly different it is meaningless.
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I got some Subaru ones off Amazon. Crap, I wonder if they are counterfiet?

I'll buy you a near beer if we ever meet.

None of that has anything to do with the fact that they are indeed different filters. They're more different internally than externally.

The "difference" is meaningless.

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i gotta ask: what non-Scion dealer doesn't want to deal with Scions, which are Toyotas. It's like if GMC didn't want to deal with Chevrolets anymore.

Ile-Perot, they keep telling me to go to other dealers, because "They don't have Scion information in their system".

Do you have a link you can share?

Michael.

I found this $91/12 = ~7.60/each so not a ton cheaper than the 3 pack but if you have the space and plan on keeping your car for another 90,000 miles...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-OEM...AAAOSwu***wZSg

The 6 pack is a few cents cheaper per chang:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/2013-2016-S...IAAOSwPGhdlPVB
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-OEM...QAAOSwzwxdwZQ4

Thanks but I was looking for something local, postage from the US to Australia is normally very high and negates any savings buying online or in bulk. 86MLR is in Australia too which is why I asked him.

cheers,

Currently they are pretty expensive

I just did a oil/filter change and only have 1 spare one left.

I need to pick some up, currently the cheapest is a 5 pack for $86 AUD, makes them $17 AUD each.

Located in WA

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/5X-GENUI...-/123878267288

You are generous or just really trustworthy. I never pay until the job is completed to my satisfaction. Not to be confused with "I trust the shop to do a good job." Human error is inevitable (unless they are robots, then never mind).

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One is made in Thailand, other MIJ.

Funny my Toyota came with a Subaru filter:iono:

They all do. Subaru assembles the car.
I'm not sure what that has to do with the filters being different.

Yeah, its all but impossible to get a Made in Japan Toyota filter anymore. Denso supplies them, and they have plants in Thailand and China.


Interestingly enough, I've had a hunch that the Full brand of filters sold at NAPA are actually rebranded Denso filters, or at least made in the same plant by the same company. They're made in Thailand and look strikingly similar to the real deal. Not the same for the BRZ Full filter though, which just reinforces my theory. Denso doesn't make the BRZ filter. Who makes the Subaru OEM filters that are Made in Japan? Nippon?

I just checked, the Toyota filter is much cheaper. If they both work, why spend extra for the Subaru one?

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@Contender, still funny, or nah?

Eh, if I'm already buying BRZ parts from the Subaru dealership for my FR-S I might as well just buy the oil filter while I'm at it. Was less than 10 dollars when I last bought one there.

Either one works well. Buy the Toyota or Subaru oil filter from from whichever dealership is closer.

I think every dealership is different. Interestingly enough, my local Toyota started recently selling the Subaru filter, and they usually charge more.

I bet you anything they just use the local Subaru as a warehouse and charge extra for the "shipment" from down the street.

My Subaru dealer is next door to the Toyota dealer (same group) so I get the Subaru filter then walk next door to get the Toyota oil because it has the best shear characteristics and it's far less expensive than just about every other 0W20. Oil and filter usually run right about $35 this way.

I bought neither oil nor filter from a dealer since I bought my car. I buy Bosch, K&N, or Mobil 1 filters and Mobil-1 or Castrol Edge oil, whichever is cheaper. Walmart sells the cheapest oil almost always. Filters usually come from Amazon. No crush washers needed due to Fumoto valve I have replaced in the first oil change. That was a very good buy.

Is the oil filter wrench for RYCO Z79ast suit Toyota oem aswell 90915-YZZS2 ?

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I use the Wix 57830 with Mobil 1 oil. Get it from Rock Auto for $4.14. https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/...il+filter,5340

To save on shipping I order multiple filters, air, oil, and cabin, for both my vehicles on the same order, and use the 5% off coupon code. https://www.retailmenot.com/view/roc...DAVRWOGUAQMSCI

I've been using the subaru filter for the Toyota GT86 for more than 2 years and did not find any issue so far!