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EvolutionRevolution 10-03-2019 05:50 PM

MODS
 
I'm new to the tuner/mod world.. so take it easy...

I'm looking seriously at an FRS with the following mods:

*cusco engine mounts

*Perrin shift bushing

* White Line subframe

*diff bushing inserts


I'm curious what impact these will have on the car if being used as a DD and also reliability, resale etc..

MANY THANKS!

Clutch Dog 10-03-2019 05:54 PM

next to nothing in terms of negative impact on reliability and resale

you might get some more incabin NVH.. maybe

theres maybe 600 bucks in OE parts if you wanted to go back to stock on those bits. otherwise not anything that would raise a flag for me


bigger question. does the body look like it had a body kit on it at one point. does the engine look like its been out of the car. exhaust manifold bolts look touched at all? single owner? title status?
how many miles are on the car. does the engine match the chassis VIN
where was it sold originally.

EvolutionRevolution 10-03-2019 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Clutch Dog (Post 3263671)
next to nothing in terms of negative impact on reliability and resale

you might get some more incabin NVH.. maybe

theres maybe 600 bucks in OE parts if you wanted to go back to stock on those bits. otherwise not anything that would raise a flag for me


bigger question. does the body look like it had a body kit on it at one point. does the engine look like its been out of the car. exhaust manifold bolts look touched at all? single owner? title status?
how many miles are on the car. does the engine match the chassis VIN
where was it sold originally.

Thanks man! Single owner, no accident, clean title. 36XXX miles.

I FORGOT to mention -- currently has a Berk single exit track pipe but OEM exhaust can be put on before sale..

Clutch Dog 10-03-2019 06:11 PM

Not a huge concern again. how much are they asking. and what year

EvolutionRevolution 10-03-2019 06:55 PM

2016 RS 2

16,500

Spuds 10-03-2019 07:09 PM

Sounds like my kind of car. I have the shifter bushing and like it a lot compared to stock. Subframe and diff bushings are on my shortlist. Apparently adds some nvh as mentioned before, but creates a firmer chassis overall. Check for things like random holes in engine bay and suspiciously clean or dirty spots in case there were some power mods that were removed. If the seller isn't forthcoming about what mods were removed (you can just ask before inspecting it) and you find something suspicious, I'd probably pass.

DarkPira7e 10-03-2019 07:18 PM

Sounds like it's set up perfectly. I'd find out why they chose those mods in particular since it feels like they're supporting mods for other things.

Could've just wanted a nice ride, Certainly got it right.

Clutch Dog 10-03-2019 07:19 PM

on the other hand I picked my 33k mile single owner colorado -> california car 2015 for 15,8k

im not sure if the RS 2.0 package is worth the extra funding. but if it looks all decent and rides decent and nothing super suspect. go for it.

it took me 6 months to find an 86 chassis i trust and i was a scion in white haha, but the bones are good and everythings held up just fine

EvolutionRevolution 10-03-2019 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clutch Dog (Post 3263671)
... does the body look like it had a body kit on it at one point. does the engine look like its been out of the car. exhaust manifold bolts look touched at all? single owner? title status?
how many miles are on the car. does the engine match the chassis VIN
where was it sold originally.

no body kit, engine never removed.. single owner , clean title.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spuds (Post 3263702)
If the seller isn't forthcoming about what mods were removed (you can just ask before inspecting it) and you find something suspicious, I'd probably pass.

no power mods

Decep 10-03-2019 08:50 PM

I have the shifter bushing and it's a lot more vibration at low rpm/higher load scenarios (IE you are stuck in traffic and dont want to double clutch into first gear but are probably going slightly too slow for 2nd gear). The others will add a bit more vibration again.

Not a huge deal really.

EvolutionRevolution 10-03-2019 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clutch Dog (Post 3263706)
on the other hand I picked my 33k mile single owner colorado -> california car 2015 for 15,8k

im not sure if the RS 2.0 package is worth the extra funding. but if it looks all decent and rides decent and nothing super suspect. go for it.

it took me 6 months to find an 86 chassis i trust and i was a scion in white haha, but the bones are good and everythings held up just fine


Ya the price is fair market per KBB..

Nice having some of the 2.0 upgrades i suppose..

White has never been my favorite car color , but "lunar storm" is growing on me lol


I find it interesting that the diff in price on a FRS vs FRS RS 2.0 is like 300 bucks on KBB... thought it would be more than that.

ichitaka05 10-03-2019 08:57 PM

More question of why you want those mods for? Especially Cusco engine mount will vibrate your car a lot more than you think.

You wanna think "What's the goal for this car?" & from there, add/mod em one at the time. Cuz adding everything at once, you don't know what mod affect the car/driving.

Tcoat 10-03-2019 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ichitaka05 (Post 3263732)
More question of why you want those mods for? Especially Cusco engine mount will vibrate your car a lot more than you think.

You wanna think "What's the goal for this car?" & from there, add/mod em one at the time. Cuz adding everything at once, you don't know what mod affect the car/driving.

The car already has those.

Tcoat 10-03-2019 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by EvolutionRevolution (Post 3263696)
2016 RS 2

16,500

And how much did they want for the blue one?

ichitaka05 10-03-2019 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3263733)
The car already has those.

Damn... I must stayed in Japan too long and can't read English... :bellyroll:

If that's the case, ignore my comment

Tcoat 10-03-2019 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ichitaka05 (Post 3263736)
Damn... I must stayed in Japan too long and can't read English... :bellyroll:

If that's the case, ignore my comment

You could before you left?

ichitaka05 10-03-2019 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3263748)
You could before you left?

Oh snap! Sadly I can't disagree w that comment :bellyroll: :bellyroll: :bellyroll:

RToyo86 10-03-2019 10:16 PM

The only thing you may not like are the engine mounts.

You get a lot of vibrations that aren't ideal for a DD. The cabin will feel like a rattlebox.

Yoniyama 10-03-2019 10:25 PM

Beware of rattling.

This is especially problematic with Toybaru of 2016 and earlier vintage. Rattling is slightly less with the facelifted (2017+) version.

If not already installed, you may want to look into some body re-inforcement bars. The list of mods you want to install may exacerbate rattlings to an unbearable level.

radroach 10-03-2019 10:40 PM

The cusco engine mounts might be too noisy. Luckily you can just swap them out for some fresh OEM if its an issue. Depending on when your next spark plug change is, this might be something you can schedule to do along with other maintenance.

Stiffening everything else is probably a good thing. If this car doesn't have the whiteline transmission insert bushing and perrin shift rear shift bushing (positive shift kit) I'd definitely recommend getting that in.

EvolutionRevolution 10-04-2019 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3263734)
And how much did they want for the blue one?

1600

EvolutionRevolution 10-04-2019 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RToyo86 (Post 3263758)
The only thing you may not like are the engine mounts.

You get a lot of vibrations that aren't ideal for a DD. The cabin will feel like a rattlebox.

That's what I'm worried about... Test drive is this weekend..

If it's too intense to comfortably DD it sounds like it's not so bad to get the engine mounts back to stock thankfully..

JesseG 10-06-2019 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Yoniyama (Post 3263763)
Beware of rattling.



This is especially problematic with Toybaru of 2016 and earlier vintage. Rattling is slightly less with the facelifted (2017+) version.



If no already installed, you may want to look into some body re-inforcement bars. The list of mods you want to install may exacerbate rattlings to an unbearable level.



Yeah that would be a concern for me also if this will be a daily driver. Track car, completely different story. The twins have PLENTY of feedback/harshness/stiffness with stock bushings and components. For the street. My little FR-S has a new buzz or rattle every day, it’s....charming. [emoji28][emoji48]


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