FRS w/ Prior accident...
 

Should I pass and wait for a pure one?

Clean title, 2016 oceanic blue FRS. VERY well kept. Drives great. With 37,XXX.. At dealership. BUT, has history of accident.. Cosmetically whatever repair was done is flawless..

Offering to me about 10% less than fair market. No pictures or receipts of repair but cosmetically like new..



Per car fax:

Accident reported
- Vehicle involved in a rear-end collision
- Involving rear impact
with another motor vehicle
- Functional damage reported
- Airbags did not deploy

https://www.carfax.com/VehicleHistor...607.1569201766

Concerned about re-saleability and if I am getting it at a fair price given the history..





EDIT:

UPDATE:

I was able to find the repair shop where work was done and they were willing to talk to me about what they did over the phone.:

car was in rear end collision.

Rear bumper, bumper bar, trunk lid, and a body panel were replaced. Painted obviously (really nice pain job, I cannot tell it was done..)

Apparently the rear body panel is something welded on but not really a structural part?

Guy says they didn't see anything that would cause any safety issues or concerns down the road.

Any thoughts FRS internet wizards?

But does it SPEAK to you? Like lovers do..

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I think so... but it may be puppy love...

Thing drives really nice..

A/B'd it vs a 2014 BRZ with 50XXX in the next-door dealership .. for some weird reason the brz clutch felt heavy and the whole car less responsive vs the FRS which was really nimble, responsive and sounded great (BRZ had a fart box attached).

Oh, I reckon if you think it's perty and it drives right, the price seems reasonable.


humfrz

replacing a bumper because of scratches caused at 3 mph could be.

so could getting rear ended at a stoplight by someone doing 50.

the main thing is the quality/thoroughness of the repair. not that the repair was needed.

if you're interested, get it inspected by a qualified shop, preferably a trusted body shop.

attempt to determine the original damage, what was repaired, and how it was repaired.

then make a decision if it's worth it.

Still a clean title? Not salvage? If a clean title it wasn't totaled so the damage was not likely huge. As said if it drives well then have it inspected to make sure all is good and offer them 15% below "fair market".

Get inspected and if they OK it, come back with an offer of 15-20% less than the 10% they gave you to start with. Play the "game" back.
You can go online right now and find twins all day long for less than fair market value with no accidents in their history.

Edit: Tcoat went into the future and stole my comment. I don't trust time traveling comment stealers!

The T in Tcoat actually does stand for Time...

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Oh and dude you need to seek counseling for those other thoughts!

walk away, not today, disco ladaaay

As long as the title is clean! It may be worth the coin to have it taken in to have the alignment checked at a different location that you don't disclose to the seller.

If they're against it, they may be hiding something. Worth a shot for a collision car

Hey, stay on topic here and if you say anything about the high heels and bananas, I am messaging a moderator!

You do. They ignore you.

From the report:

The damage was reported as "Functional". A bit more than a bump, but still drivable afterwards. Hmmm tough call.

Exactly -- functional damage - drivable from scene but not just some fender rash... It is a tough call without any documentation of what happened..

probably not a parking lot job -- if i had to guess the car was truly rear-ended based off the descriptions of minor vs functional that car fax offers..

perhaps it's time for some eye candy to make this harder..

not a bad looking specimen...

I was involved in a rear end collision several years ago. Slightly wet highway, with the bane of my existence vehicle behind me going too fast (late 90’s Explorer, I want them all to be crushed). Traffic slowed to a stop in front of me, I had plenty of time to stop, Explorer driving douchebag didn’t, and he hit me going about 35ish mph. He tried to swerve at the last second onto the shoulder but still hit me pretty square.
Anyway, all of that is to say a rear end collision like that wasn’t car total bad, but I didn’t want to keep my Corolla long term after that. The repair shop had to replace the rear crash beam, and a section of the trunk had to be welded in, and full respray of both rear fenders, trunk, and bumper. The repair was done well, but it was enough damage I knew I wasn’t going to keep the car. Try to find out the best you can the extent of the damage. Have paint thickness checked, and look for any replaced body panels. If it does I would walk away and find an uncrashed FR-S or 86. [emoji106]


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that blue! [emoji106][emoji1376] Don’t fall too in love with it yet [emoji28]


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If for exactly what you want. It took me 9 months to find a single owner clean title non modified car. but I did find it.

it was an ex colorado car but the carfax said it was sold there and owned for 2 years and driven down to socal. so i relented.

and it was white! the best color that isnt any red, yellow, or hakone gren

As others have mentioned, just get it inspected at a good body shop. They should be able to tell where the work was done - and if they can't tell at all, it must've been negligible and/or done well.

Resale on this car shouldn't be a huge concern (it's not rare enough or valuable enough), and if you can get a discount, it's likely a wash anyway.

Yeah a good repair shop would spot pretty much anything that was replaced or fixed. And seeing any respray is very easy in the sunlight. Unless it was done by some master craftsman painter. [emoji6]
Also the twins have VIN tags everywhere, if a panel or the trunk was replaced that would be easy to spot.


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UPDATE:

I was able to find the repair shop where work was done and they were willing to talk to me about what they did over the phone.:

car was in rear end collision.

Rear bumper, bumper bar, trunk lid, and a body panel were replaced. Painted obviously (really nice pain job, I cannot tell it was done..)

Apparently the rear body panel is something welded on but not really a structural part?

Guy says they didn't see anything that would cause any safety issues or concerns down the road, which is important to me.

Any thoughts FRS internet wizards? I really don't know anything about body work. Would love some feedback.

That's cool you were able to talk to the shop.

But like everyone here has said, if it's still worrying you, get it inspected somewhere else to back up what they've told you. If they're full of it, a good shop will be able to tell pretty quick.

Quarter panels, while I suppose add some small rigidity, are quite flimsy and not really load-bearing members. I wouldn't worry about that too much if it looks good. Sounds like it got hit offset by something tall if they had to do the quarter panel, but if they replaced the bumper beam that means it probably took the brunt on the impact. I'm guessing they just didn't mention the brake light, but I am fairly certain they would have needed a new one.

Anyway, it sounds fine, but I'm just a dude on the internet. You can get it independently inspected as others have said, if it gives you the peace of mind. It's going to be hard to tell you everything you could look for over the internet.

honestly, if it's still worrying you enough to take the time to track down the original shop that worked on it, i'd recommend you look for a different car.

that's a whole lot of research on a singular item that is produced in mass quantity. if you're looking into it this hard now, i'm not convinced that if you were to purchase the car that you'd be able to see it as anything other than damaged goods. which will color your impressions of anything/everything that happens with the car

strut mount develops squeak, stupid crashed car!
it doesn't start one time because the key fob battery goes dead, stupid wrecked car!
bird poops on it, stupid wrecked car!
someone door dings it, stupid wrecked car!

it might sound excessive, but i've known people that have gone through that exact scenario with second hand items.

Agreed. By the sounds of it there is probably not a thing wrong with the car.
But...
If still concerned enough to be digging all this time later then if anything does turn up, related or not, then it will nag at your brain forever.

Thank you all.. Valid points , no doubt. Just trying to do my homework.. and the longer it sits the better deal i think i can get.. OR someone else buys it :)

Well nobody can accuse you of not doing your homework.

For what it is worth, judging by what you have said, I woud buy that one without any qualms. Well, other than it being blue.

haha not a fan of the blue are ya?

Didn't think I would be either.. but yeah.. I like it.

This just in... the ACUTAL REPORT from the body shop...:party0030::happyanim:

Looks light rear end with a touch of side impact. All lines up with what was said. Ask for $1000 off what they already said but take it if you get $500 more than asking off. On phone so don’t want to look back but it was still clean title not a salvage right?

Very cool of the bodyshop to help you out like that.

Keep in mind after repairing a car they'd never say anything negative about its safety or driveability etc. It would not be good for business.

IMO there are still plenty of these without accident damage to bother with this car, but that probably varies based on your location.

Clean title. Per kbb fair market is 17,5

I have them down to 15,5 + 500 dealer fee...

Yes still would get a PPI for sure

The KBB values can sort of be confusing but that looks like a good buy for your area. You will get people where there are so many of these cars you trip over them tell you it should be far cheaper though. A quick look at asking prices in SC shows that they are looking for up to $2K more for 2013s and 14s and as much as $3.5K more for 16s which makes your deal look pretty decent even with the prior damage.

Yep I concur, prices are high in my area ; supply is low..

I'm really between this one and the RS 2.0... don't know if i'm sold on the color of the series 2 yet bc I haven't seen one in the flesh...

A guy about 2 blocks from home has one. The colour is OK but to me comes across as impersonating a high end luxury coupe which of course it is not. Hide the dirt really really well though.

if the car has had a rear body panel welded on walk away and buy another car, you have no idea if it was properly rustproofed, welded properly to factory specifications or if there was any damaged actually missed. As far as the rear body being part of the structure it is a structural part of the car.

Discount is not worth it.
Keep looking.

used cars don't work that way. they paid a specific price for that car to get it onto their lot to sell. to sell below that price would make them a charity instead of a car dealership.