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Dadillac 09-06-2019 04:40 PM
Went to the dark side
 
Sorry guys but traded in the 86 this morning for a new 2018 Mustang Ecoboost leftover. With my bad back I was having extreme difficulty with the harsh ride and the very low seat height in the 86. Took a beating on the trade but sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do. Got a smoking good deal on the Mustang so it balanced out a bit. The new car is a 6 speed Ecoboost Premium with 201A package and Black Accent package. I will miss the cornering ability of the 86 but the ride comfort (or lack thereof) is a faint memory. I will probably be checking in from time to time. See ya guys


Don

JD001 09-06-2019 05:04 PM
Smoked eal, yuck... As for moving over to dark side, just take care when leaving Mustang meets, don't wish to see bloopers on YouTube...

Tcoat 09-06-2019 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by JD001 (Post 3254882)
Smoked eal, yuck... As for moving over to dark side, just take care when leaving Mustang meets, don't wish to see bloopers on YouTube...
It is an ecoboost so only a pretend Mustang. He is safe.

eastendraceshop 09-06-2019 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3254900)
It is an ecoboost so only a pretend Mustang. He is safe.
:lol::lol:

humfrz 09-06-2019 07:05 PM
Well, good on ya, there Don, @Dadillac - :)

Your presence here on the forum will be missed - :sigh:

Yep, sometimes, our body tells us, it's a time for change.

I'll admit that the older I get, the more comfortable mrs humfrz's sedan gets - ;)

How about a picture of your new machine?


humfrz

22R 09-06-2019 07:07 PM
Congrats on the new Stang. They are fine.

22R

EAGLE5 09-06-2019 07:22 PM
Sucks about your back.

JesseG 09-06-2019 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Dadillac (Post 3254872)
Sorry guys but traded in the 86 this morning for a new 2018 Mustang Ecoboost leftover. With my bad back I was having extreme difficulty with the harsh ride and the very low seat height in the 86. Took a beating on the trade but sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do. Got a smoking good eal on the Mustang so it balanced out a bit. The new car is a 6 speed Ecoboost Premium with 201A package and Black Accent package. I will miss the cornering ability of the 86 but the ride comfort (or lack thereof) is a faint memory. I will probably be checking in from time to time. See ya guys


Don


Don I hope your new Mustang treats you well, I’m sure it will! The Ecoboost Mustang is a real performer, and I’m sure much more comfortable for you. [emoji106] Keep us updated, I don’t think many of us venture into the Mustang forums. [emoji28] But damn they are bad ass cars.


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JesseG 09-06-2019 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3254900)
It is an ecoboost so only a pretend Mustang. He is safe.


A pretend Mustang that would destroy the 86, and many other cars. [emoji28] The Ecoboost Mustang is meant to slot under the GT, and it handles pretty good!


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Tcoat 09-06-2019 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by JesseG (Post 3254918)
A pretend Mustang that would destroy the 86, and many other cars. [emoji28] The Ecoboost Mustang is meant to slot under the GT, and it handles pretty good!


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LOL I was wondering who would take the bait! The long timers here knew better.

My comment was a tongue in cheek poke at the "Mustangs MUST be V8" crowd that like to slam the ecoboost and don't see how a 'Stang can be powered by anything else.

HKz 09-06-2019 08:13 PM
is there really a significant difference? I just had some seat time in a friend's GT350, I don't recall having an easier time getting in and out. As far as ride comfort, OP did you ever try a normal 86 or BRZ...? TRD SE with the bigger rims and less sidewall was certainly a factor but it is rather interesting that you consider an Ecoboost Mustang to ride that much better..

Summerwolf 09-06-2019 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Dadillac (Post 3254872)
Sorry guys but traded in the 86 this morning for a new 2018 Mustang Ecoboost leftover. With my bad back I was having extreme difficulty with the harsh ride and the very low seat height in the 86. Took a beating on the trade but sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do. Got a smoking good eal on the Mustang so it balanced out a bit. The new car is a 6 speed Ecoboost Premium with 201A package and Black Accent package. I will miss the cornering ability of the 86 but the ride comfort (or lack thereof) is a faint memory. I will probably be checking in from time to time. See ya guys


Don
Sorry about the downgrade. At least you shouldnt have enough power to mow down a crowd! Only one or two pedestrians.

Dadillac 09-06-2019 09:57 PM
Yeah that smoked eal is the only way to have eal LOL. As far as the back issue I have a degenerative disc in the L4-L5 area. So any waist movement is felt. Most times the pain is minimal. Other times not so much. Those times were very challenging especially during exiting the car. The seat height in the Mustang is probably only like 4 inches higher but that is quite a bit and is way easier on entry and exit.



I took both a GT and an Ecoboost for a test drive. That GT is a bad mother. I had a huge grin on my face during and after that drive. The Ecoboost is not that far off from the GT. It has plenty of power without the pleasing V8 growl. But I allowed my brain to control the purchase and the better fuel mileage and a lot more optional equipment for the same money made the Ecoboost the clear winner.


I noticed on my drive home from the dealer there were no pedestrians present. They must've got the memo that a Mustang was coming


Don

Will BRZ 09-06-2019 10:27 PM
Damn. Well life’s all about experiencing new things right? At least you can say you tried it bro. Good luck and congratulations on your new ride. Hope it fits your needs :burnrubber:

JesseG 09-06-2019 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3254924)
LOL I was wondering who would take the bait! The long timers here knew better.

My comment was a tongue in cheek poke at the "Mustangs MUST be V8" crowd that like to slam the ecoboost and don't see how a 'Stang can be powered by anything else.


LOL! You got me [emoji4]


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JesseG 09-06-2019 10:46 PM
Yeah the twins are not the easiest cars to get in and out of. You sort of drop in them, and do a sit up to get out. Not good for a bad back at all. Now go look for a crowd, your Mustang needs to feed [emoji83]


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FR-Sky 09-10-2019 03:31 AM
Now i know OP havent try ohlin yet.

Manualgearbox 09-13-2019 09:35 AM
Congrats, its great to have boost in your life.

Jay

86MLR 09-13-2019 09:13 PM
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This looks like a good fix for easy ingress and egress.

humfrz 09-13-2019 10:26 PM
^ nothing about that car makes any sense - SMH


humfrz

Yoniyama 09-14-2019 04:02 AM
Ride quality of the 13-16 Toybaru was 'very choppy', the facelifted 17+ has been mildly upgraded to 'choppy'. It is a shame, however, if anyone gives up the Toybaru because of the poor ride quality.

Ex-factory, the Toybaru is a 85% finished item, it is up to the owner to complete the build to suit his peference.

I, too, think the ride quality is un-acceptable. I installed taller springs (+15mm), ultra-light wheels (5.5 kg each), softer front anti-roll bars, two-piece front brake rotors (-4lb each), and light weight rear upper control arms (-5lb each). After reducing the total unsprung weight by over 55lb, increasing maximum wheel travel by 15mm, and softer anti-roll bars, I am happy to report that the ride quality has been upgraded from 'choppy' to 'firm".

Unlike some other marques, eg Porsche, the Toybaru is deliberately set up to accept all kinds of mod readily, easily, and cheaply. There are literally thousands of mod's available to suit anyone's preference. Not taking advantage of this is missing out half the enjoyment of owning a Toybaru.

What a pity.

KR-S 09-14-2019 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Yoniyama (Post 3257327)
Ride quality of the 13-16 Toybaru was 'very choppy', the facelifted 17+ has been mildly upgraded to 'choppy'. It is a shame, however, if anyone gives up the Toybaru because of the poor ride quality.

Ex-factory, the Toybaru is a 85% finished item, it is up to the owner to complete the build to suit his peference.

I, too, think the ride quality is un-acceptable. I installed taller springs (+15mm), ultra-light wheels (5.5 kg each), softer front anti-roll bars, two-piece front brake rotors (-4lb each), and light weight rear upper control arms (-5lb each). After reducing the total unsprung weight by over 55lb, increasing maximum wheel travel by 15mm, and softer anti-roll bars, I am happy to report that the ride quality has been upgraded from 'choppy' to 'firm".

Unlike some other marques, eg Porsche, the Toybaru is deliberately set up to accept all kinds of mod readily, easily, and cheaply. There are literally thousands of mod's available to suit anyone's preference. Not taking advantage of this is missing out half the enjoyment of owning a Toybaru.

What a pity.
Stop being a ****. Not everybody wants to blow money to mod their car let alone actually install everything themselves, and you can't exactly fix low seat height without looking like the car 86MLR posted.

Also, 85% finished sounds like a good reason to stay away from the twins. Plenty of people want their car 100% finished, i.e. suitable for their needs right out of the box. Good for you if you want to mod your car, but don't be condescending towards others who want a complete package when purchasing a car.

new2subaru 09-14-2019 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Yoniyama (Post 3257327)
Ride quality of the 13-16 Toybaru was 'very choppy', the facelifted 17+ has been mildly upgraded to 'choppy'. It is a shame, however, if anyone gives up the Toybaru because of the poor ride quality.

Ex-factory, the Toybaru is a 85% finished item, it is up to the owner to complete the build to suit his peference.

I, too, think the ride quality is un-acceptable. I installed taller springs (+15mm), ultra-light wheels (5.5 kg each), softer front anti-roll bars, two-piece front brake rotors (-4lb each), and light weight rear upper control arms (-5lb each). After reducing the total unsprung weight by over 55lb, increasing maximum wheel travel by 15mm, and softer anti-roll bars, I am happy to report that the ride quality has been upgraded from 'choppy' to 'firm".

Unlike some other marques, eg Porsche, the Toybaru is deliberately set up to accept all kinds of mod readily, easily, and cheaply. There are literally thousands of mod's available to suit anyone's preference. Not taking advantage of this is missing out half the enjoyment of owning a Toybaru.

What a pity.
This is great and is one of my goals but still won’t help when you have a bad back. There are times I can’t drive the car. It’s the low seating position, it puts pressure on the lower spine. It’s the nature of the car design.

It will be far easier to slide into something higher. Did I miss the pics of the car :needpics:

WNDSRFR 09-14-2019 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by KR-S 86 (Post 3257343)
Stop being a ****. Not everybody wants to blow money to mod their car let alone actually install everything themselves, and you can't exactly fix low seat height without looking like the car 86MLR posted.

Also, 85% finished sounds like a good reason to stay away from the twins. Plenty of people want their car 100% finished, i.e. suitable for their needs right out of the box. Good for you if you want to mod your car, but don't be condescending towards others who want a complete package when purchasing a car.
I agree 100% with the a****'s 85% assessment. IMO the stock car is ready to be customized to your individual desires. It needs to be lowered, the tires suck, the front end is ugly, the rear needs a spoiler (of your choice), the exhaust is too quiet, it needs a UEL header and it's too slow (FI of your choice). Any and all of the "deficiencies" can be dealt with any way you wish. Now if you like the car as is, that's fine. But just because someone wants to customize his car and make it unique doesn't make him an a****.

funwheeldrive 09-14-2019 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by JesseG (Post 3254918)
A pretend Mustang that would destroy the 86, and many other cars. [emoji28] The Ecoboost Mustang is meant to slot under the GT, and it handles pretty good!


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If you bought the 86 to win races, you're gonna have a bad time.

DarkSunrise 09-14-2019 01:20 PM
The low seating position is definitely an issue for some. My wife hates it.

At one point, my car was loud, had a slight leak from the exhaust, was on a relatively stiff track setup (7k coilovers, 200 tw tires), and had brakes that squealed like a train at every stop (track pads/bbk). We normally take the family car, but had to take my car this one time. I told my wife to get in and the one objection she had was... the low seating position. :D

I personally love it though, so oh well.

JesseG 09-14-2019 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by funwheeldrive (Post 3257377)
If you bought the 86 to win races, you're gonna have a bad time.


I 100% did not buy my FR-S to win races [emoji16][emoji106] I was just saying the Mustang is a faster car. Do I want one? Hellllllllll no. But for the OP it’s a great alternative to the 86, it’s easier to get in and out of, and has a better ride. And it’s quick and fun in its own way. Anyone that cares about cars and driving will always get a [emoji106] from me. [emoji6]

The comments about the 86 not being a “finished” car I don’t agree with at all. If you want some more creature comforts the BRZ provides that. Anything else you want to modify is just personal preference. Now the stripped down JDM version of the 86 is not completely finished, but we don’t even get that version. (Not directed at you Funwheeldrive)


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KR-S 09-14-2019 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by WNDSRFR (Post 3257359)
I agree 100% with the a****'s 85% assessment. IMO the stock car is ready to be customized to your individual desires. It needs to be lowered, the tires suck, the front end is ugly, the rear needs a spoiler (of your choice), the exhaust is too quiet, it needs a UEL header and it's too slow (FI of your choice). Any and all of the "deficiencies" can be dealt with any way you wish. Now if you like the car as is, that's fine. But just because someone wants to customize his car and make it unique doesn't make him an a****.
Keyword here is opinion. Plenty of other people will find the FR-S perfectly fine as-is. I'm not arguing that the car is moddable; I'm saying that there are plenty of people who want something that caters to their needs out of the box without needing to mod.

I wasn't calling him a **** because he wanted to mod his car. I called him a **** because of how condescending his post came off towards OP.

Sapphireho 09-14-2019 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Dadillac (Post 3254872)
Sorry guys but traded in the 86 this morning for a new 2018 Mustang Ecoboost leftover. With my bad back I was having extreme difficulty with the harsh ride and the very low seat height in the 86. Took a beating on the trade but sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do. Got a smoking good deal on the Mustang so it balanced out a bit. The new car is a 6 speed Ecoboost Premium with 201A package and Black Accent package. I will miss the cornering ability of the 86 but the ride comfort (or lack thereof) is a faint memory. I will probably be checking in from time to time. See ya guys


Don
Bummer about your back. Glad you found something better for you that is still fun. Best of luck.

Dadillac 09-14-2019 09:42 PM
Don't get me wrong. If I was a younger version of myself the ride and low seat height would be a non issue. I am just not aging well. During my test drive I took these 2 things into consideration and at the time my back was doing fine. My back pain is not a 24/7 365 issue. I have bad days months and good times too. I just got to the point that the bad times far out weighed the good times. So a change was definitely needed. I do miss the go kart cornering of the 86. The Mustang does corner pretty well even though I haven't really tested it yet. But it does it with a bit of body roll. Not a lot like an old Cadillac but more than the 86. I definitely can feel the extra weight of the car. I will adjust. And the Ecoboost doesn't have a frigging torque dip. Yaaah Fn Hooo.



Don

mrg666 09-15-2019 08:06 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dadillac (Post 3254872)
Sorry guys but traded in the 86 this morning for a new 2018 Mustang Ecoboost leftover. With my bad back I was having extreme difficulty with the harsh ride and the very low seat height in the 86. Took a beating on the trade but sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do. Got a smoking good deal on the Mustang so it balanced out a bit. The new car is a 6 speed Ecoboost Premium with 201A package and Black Accent package. I will miss the cornering ability of the 86 but the ride comfort (or lack thereof) is a faint memory. I will probably be checking in from time to time. See ya guys


Don
I like the looks of latest Mustang design; always catches my eye. Enjoy!

JesseG 09-15-2019 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Dadillac (Post 3257492)
Don't get me wrong. If I was a younger version of myself the ride and low seat height would be a non issue. I am just not aging well. During my test drive I took these 2 things into consideration and at the time my back was doing fine. My back pain is not a 24/7 365 issue. I have bad days months and good times too. I just got to the point that the bad times far out weighed the good times. So a change was definitely needed. I do miss the go kart cornering of the 86. The Mustang does corner pretty well even though I haven't really tested it yet. But it does it with a bit of body roll. Not a lot like an old Cadillac but more than the 86. I definitely can feel the extra weight of the car. I will adjust. And the Ecoboost doesn't have a frigging torque dip. Yaaah Fn Hooo.



Don


Congrats man, it’s a terrific car, and your health is always priority 1. [emoji106] The Ecoboost is a true gem of an engine, I love it. Imagine throwing that in an 86! [emoji33][emoji16]


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Dadillac 09-15-2019 10:14 PM
I haven't got into it too much yet. But the little that I have has been exciting. It really pulls good.



Don

JesseG 09-17-2019 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Dadillac (Post 3257752)
I haven't got into it too much yet. But the little that I have has been exciting. It really pulls good.



Don


Turbos are so much fun, and from what I’ve read that engine can easily make more power. Have fun and drive safely!


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Decep 09-17-2019 11:32 PM
rented one once. decently quick but boring as hell otherwise. comfortable marshmallow though, great cruiser.


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