Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community - FT86CLUB

- Engine Swaps (https://www.ft86club.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=92)

- - FA20 short block build (https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=136161)

FA20 short block build

A lot of different built short block options. Most likely as cheap or cheaper to buy a “pre” built block like this as apposed to buying components and paying an engine shop to build. Cheaper if you can build yourself.

But the one you linked is a wrx FA20, need to find a brz/86 built FA20

Why are you building the block?

Quote:

Originally Posted by usp2333 (Post 3244480)

It's actually an insane reason. It is currently in my parents name and they won't allow anything mod wise (except the rims I already did lol) until I own it. For me to fully own it, I either pay like 7k to buy it, or I pay for a built/swapped engine. I know... it's insane lol but it's the game they want to play. Seems kinda stupid to just outright buy the car considering it's at 70k miles right now and the bearings will probably go at 90k. And I'm driving like 20k miles/year at this rate.

With a built engine, your car will lose longevity, it may lose power, and it will be expensive for no reason to have it built. If you lower the compression and add nothing, you'll probably lose 40-80whp.

uh, I'd definitely boost it with the full turbo kit.

So you still owe $7k on the car?

Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk

Pay your parents the money owed

Don't be a self entitled sponge

Mod when you own it

Kids these days.......

Quote:

Originally Posted by usp2333 (Post 3244557)

Lol my bro, chill. I worked my butt off and got a scholarship worth $15k. They were paying for my classes at the time so I made a deal with them that if they bought me a car, they'd save like 6k cause I didn't have a job at the time and couldn't work without a vehicle because of where I lived. Now they hold it over my head and went back on their word because I have a job and have been successful. I'd appreciate it if you kept your thoughts about my life to yourself. I didn't ask for your opinion about my personal issues, only about the car. To be honest, you wouldn't dare say entitlement to my face in person. You have no idea the literal blood I've put into my education (and now work) to where I'm at the top of the "chain". I've gotten where I am but insane levels of hard work, something you will never understand, and I've had EVERY blockade along the way. From health, to death, to nearly losing everything, including my own life... the car is what I have and it represents who I am and the journey I've been on. If it were any other way, I'd just go buy another one. But it's this car that makes me who I am. Don't just assume things my dude... Not cool. Wanna talk in person? Fine. I can promise you that your keyboard testosterone wouldn't be as strong when you cut all the bull and are faced with true reality.. All I want is help concerning the build, not your pointless, useless, opinion. If others would like to give constructive comments concerning the tradeoffs between the build and swap, I'd appreciate it. Otherwise, I'll be taking the post down at the end of the week.

It sounds like you need a stroked out FA225.
Engine swaps are a pricy pain in the ass that almost never turn out right and end up costing double what you thought.
Stick to the built FA20. Decide what your end goals are, how you want to make power and have it delivered etc.. a lot of people are finding keeping stock compression has a lot of advantages, you can get a thick steel gasket for a slight drop if you like down to say 12.2CR. Without having to go all the way down to say 10.5CR, and then need way more boost to make same power, thus increasing turbo lag and other issues. Do you just want the highest peak number? Or the meatiest power band? As little turbo lag as feasible? What ones are most important or compromise-able
Then depending on power you got to factor in transmission at least a clutch for sure and then possibly driveshaft and axles depending on power and car use.

Quote:

Originally Posted by usp2333 (Post 3244557)

LOL

You seem mad

"Keyboard testosterone" LOL, do read what you post

I care not about your health or anything else about you

I'm on your parents side about the car

Who put you through school?
Who feed you?
Who housed you?
Was it your parents?
Who insures the car?

You stated they paid for the car so you could get to work, now your upset they want you to pay your way, LOL, nice

If you're so successful, pay off the car

From your post about wanting to build an engine, for a car you don't actually own, it seems silly and immature, you reply to me also seemed immature, to the point of a threat? LOL, nice, are you 15 years old?

My post was to hold of the build till you have paid off the car, you sound like a kid who could do with some real advice, not someone to stroke your cock

Your parents holding the car back from you could be them trying to teach you about finances

Enjoy life, and good luck to you "brodude"

Why not just drive it until something breaks(maybe engine) and then buy replacement parts from the wreckers.
These cars are now very common and wreckers have an abundance of parts that they need to sell.

Lol talk about an over reaction. Someone late for nap time?

Chill out a bit. It's the internet, you would think this is understood by now.

And lol I love these kids that all think their life is the hardest life around.

Good luck with the build [emoji1787]

Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk

Quote:

Originally Posted by usp2333 (Post 3244557)

I'm at the top of the "chain".

If you're at the top of the chain, why not share your success with them and pay them back for the car? Put yourself in their shoes.

Sponge is accurate.

I'm paying almost 90k for an addition to my home so that my remaining parent can live with me and not be fearful of a lonely retirement. He wasn't successful and couldn't afford to buy me name brand graham crackers, let alone a car. Be a good dude and share your success.

I'll attest that you sharing your personal situation with us is why we're giving you this advice. If someone asks "should I jump in the pool?" You'd probably say "Yes!". When they tell you it's from the top of a building and the pool has no water, the answer unequivocally changes to "No!"

Wow so first:

Rims = Wheels

This isn't pimp my ride. Secondly, I am also maybe not understanding why want to build the motor. Again, a built motor isn't a be-all solution. You will lose some of the things an OEM motor grants you and depending on the CR, you can lose power if you are not turbocharged.

So again, why exactly do you need a built motor?

I don't usually chime in on these kinds of posts, but I agree. If you say you are successful, buy your own car or pay this off. I shake my damn head every time I see these posts from kids these days. What ever happened to earning your way through life VS expecting things to be given to you. We are all fighting some type of battle, so for you to run off and say that he doesn't know what you've been through or what you've gone through is hypocritical because neither do you. Earn your way to mod YOUR OWN VEHICLE pay off your parents, then mod your car.

INB4 thread locked/deleted. Also this is the engine swap forum, not the built block FI forum. This dude sounds entitled and big mad.

Just build the damn motor with the HKS Stroker kit and call it a day.
https://www.nengun.com/hks/capacity-...e-kit-fa20-21l

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkPira7e (Post 3244605)

If you're at the top of the chain, why not share your success with them and pay them back for the car? Put yourself in their shoes.

Sponge is accurate.

I'm paying almost 90k for an addition to my home so that my remaining parent can live with me and not be fearful of a lonely retirement. He wasn't successful and couldn't afford to buy me name brand graham crackers, let alone a car. Be a good dude and share your success.

I'll attest that you sharing your personal situation with us is why we're giving you this advice. If someone asks "should I jump in the pool?" You'd probably say "Yes!". When they tell you it's from the top of a building and the pool has no water, the answer unequivocally changes to "No!"

Probably a short chain, three steps: part time to full time ("benefitted"), full time to manager for the mall store (perks include an extra dollar an hour, 5% off inventory and gets weekends off). :clap:

:bellyroll::bellyroll::bellyroll::bellyroll: lol it got reopened

I want to know what constitutes going through hell & back ^^

Quote:

Originally Posted by HKz (Post 3244762)

I want to know what constitutes going through hell & back ^^

There's a movie that explains it