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James H 07-30-2019 05:28 PM

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What's up with Camry XSE drivers? They seem to think their Camry are race cars just because its got the black roof and dual exhaust. Almost all of them I see drive very aggressively, weaving in and out of traffic and WOT at the stop light. Most are driven by middle age men, probably making up for other inadequacies.

Leonardo 07-30-2019 06:23 PM

They wish it was this car... 850hp. 1/4 in 9.8sec

https://i.imgflip.com/36vmdx.jpg

https://i.imgflip.com/36vmi2.jpg

https://i.imgflip.com/36vms9.jpg

eastendraceshop 07-30-2019 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Leonardo (Post 3242778)
They wish it was this car... 850hp. 1/4 in 9.8sec

I wish that was my car! :confused0068:

HKz 07-30-2019 07:12 PM

hey man, leave them dads alone, they have a cool looking camry for their fam so they wanna have fun ^^ to me the most aggressive drivers here in AZ are challengers & chargers...so many dudes in them try to race me on the 101 like they don't realize I have less than a third of their displacement....

why? 07-30-2019 07:19 PM

You probably just notice more aggressive ones since there are more of them as a whole than almost anything else. I doubt you notice the beige ones that drive like an 80 year old grandmother.

Clutch Dog 07-30-2019 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by why? (Post 3242806)
You probably just notice more aggressive ones since there are more of them as a whole than almost anything else. I doubt you notice the beige ones that drive like an 80 year old grandmother.

this

its got like 330 hp and fairly quick but honestly the prius drivers are the worst out here. most the camry owners are of a certain stereotype anyways and now since it;s "cool" ( I say that knowing full well if you told me to shop for a midsize it would be the first thing id look at)
Its selling fairly well.

Jordanwolf 07-30-2019 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by James H (Post 3242755)
What's up with Camry XSE drivers? They seem to think their Camry are race cars just because its got the black roof and dual exhaust. Almost all of them I see drive very aggressively, weaving in and out of traffic and WOT at the stop light. Most are driven by middle age men, probably making up for other inadequacies.

You'd be surprised how capable the XSE is.

StraightOuttaCanadaEh 07-30-2019 07:45 PM

Really? I haven't seen any being aggressively driven. I love how they look, especially the ones with a red interior. Mmm!

DarkPira7e 07-30-2019 07:48 PM

I think regardless of the car, specific subsets of drivers are spurred on by an aggressive looking car like the BRZ/FRS.

Around here, it's typically Subaru Forester drivers or ANYBODY in a Toyota truck.

fatoni 07-30-2019 09:14 PM

sometimes people spend their entire pay checks for some jdm credit and then get mad when a middle class adult buys a faster car with more doors. they need a safe place to vent.

Mr.ac 07-30-2019 11:09 PM

Isn't it sad when a motherfunking Camry smokes a 86?

soundman98 07-30-2019 11:35 PM

a new camry was trying to keep up with me last weekend. i thought it was cute. they did not succeed.

James H 07-30-2019 11:35 PM

Strangely it’s just the XSE which is why I brought it up. Don’t quite understand why this particular model seems to be driven by granddad Andretti’s. Maybe it’s just me but I see that the ones driving SE and other trims seem to be “normal”:iono:

humfrz 07-31-2019 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by James H (Post 3242755)
What's up with Camry XSE drivers? They seem to think their Camry are race cars just because its got the black roof and dual exhaust. Almost all of them I see drive very aggressively, weaving in and out of traffic and WOT at the stop light. Most are driven by middle age men, probably making up for other inadequacies.

You don't know what your talking about - them middle aged men have the "blue pill" to help them make up for their inadequacies - :D

:lol:


humfrz

Tcoat 07-31-2019 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by fatoni (Post 3242848)
sometimes people spend their entire pay checks for some jdm credit and then get mad when a middle class adult buys a faster car with more doors. they need a safe place to vent.

Shit Twin owners say:
"Redline EVERY shift"
"I want pops and super loud exhaust so I sound like a race car"
"Change everything so it is just a Twin in name only"
"Kick the rear out every chance you get"
"I can blow anything away in the twisties"
"Drive it like it is MEANT to be driven"
"Anybody else driving a capable car in any form of an aggressive manner is a douche"

James H 07-31-2019 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 3242920)
You don't know what your talking about - them middle aged men have the "blue pill" to help them make up for their inadequacies - :D

:lol:


humfrz

I didn't make that bit up. That was a quote from the Mayor of Toronto, John "long story" Tory. In his crackdown of cars making excessive noise, he said showboating and aggressive driving is done by mostly men to make up for their inadequacies.

Spuds 07-31-2019 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr.ac (Post 3242881)
Isn't it sad when a motherfunking Camry smokes a 86?

If you put a 3.5L v6 in a twin it would smoke most pony cars. The xse is Toyotas sleeper/hot sedan. Idk how it handles, but it is certainly quick.

Tcoat 07-31-2019 11:57 AM

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If you put a 3.5L v6 in a twin it would smoke most pony cars. The xse is Toyotas sleeper/hot sedan. Idk how it handles, but it is certainly quick.

They handle just like a heavy mid sized sedan with loads of power and slightly tweaked suspension. They also make up about 5% of the Camry production so this whole "Camrys can kick our ass" sentiment is bullshit. Even the V6 numbers barely beat the Twins in any manner beyond timed drag race events.
If anybody is getting their "ass kicked" by a Camry they need to trade in their Twin for a nice minivan.

Will BRZ 07-31-2019 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3242989)
Shit Twin owners say:
"Redline EVERY shift"
"I want pops and super loud exhaust so I sound like a race car"
"Change everything so it is just a Twin in name only"
"Kick the rear out every chance you get"
"I can blow anything away in the twisties"
"Drive it like it is MEANT to be driven"
"Anybody else driving a capable car in any form of an aggressive manner is a douche"

You forgot about all the “static hellaflush bois”

Clutch Dog 07-31-2019 02:56 PM

Is.. is it bad I was thnking about selling my SUV for one?
that or an acura ILX spec A in red.. Ive owned way too many white/grey/black cars

Tcoat 07-31-2019 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Will BRZ (Post 3243095)
You forgot about all the “static hellaflush bois”

Covered under #3

DandoX 07-31-2019 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordanwolf (Post 3242816)
You'd be surprised how capable the XSE is.


Lol once I was getting on a merging on ramp to the free way and I took off going the normal twin speed (which is decently fast with a touch of tire spin when the light turned green). This v6 Camry was next to me and I figured I would go ahead of them normally without any issue and that thing blew by me like a bat of hell, mind you it sounded like it was about to explode to accelerate that fast. Those things can really take off, but not without making a big commotion.

Will BRZ 07-31-2019 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Clutch Dog (Post 3243105)
Is.. is it bad I was thnking about selling my SUV for one?
that or an acura ILX spec A in red.. Ive owned way too many white/grey/black cars

I mean nothing wrong with that. You won’t lose much practicality, but you won’t be able to drive it in bad weather (high water, snow etc.) as well as you would an SUV.

Jordanwolf 07-31-2019 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DandoX (Post 3243139)
Lol once I was getting on a merging on ramp to the free way and I took off going the normal twin speed (which is decently fast with a touch of tire spin when the light turned green). This v6 Camry was next to me and I figured I would go ahead of them normally without any issue and that thing blew by me like a bat of hell, mind you it sounded like it was about to explode to accelerate that fast. Those things can really take off, but not without making a big commotion.

The power/torque is inspiring(hilarious really), kinda feels like a Ecoboost Mustang, just with 4 doors and a less than desirable driving position.. I will not mention cornering ability, albeit surprising.. it's no Merc.

It really makes that middle aged man feel on top of the world to sum it up.

Jordanwolf 07-31-2019 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Clutch Dog (Post 3243105)
Is.. is it bad I was thnking about selling my SUV for one?
that or an acura ILX spec A in red.. Ive owned way too many white/grey/black cars

I've owned one car, and my next car is going to be RED. CHAMPIONSHIP RED.

When I can acquire the funds and am in a situation where I will not put myself backwards financially 5 years.

MUTHA FUKKIN RED.

https://www.honda.ca/civic_type_r

Tcoat 07-31-2019 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordanwolf (Post 3243177)
The power/torque is inspiring(hilarious really), kinda feels like a Ecoboost Mustang, just with 4 doors and a less than desirable driving position.. I will not mention cornering ability, albeit surprising.. it's no Merc.

It really makes that middle aged man feel on top of the world to sum it up.

Oh ya that .1 second 0 to 60 rating over the Twins must be awesome.

James H 07-31-2019 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DandoX (Post 3243139)
Lol once I was getting on a merging on ramp to the free way and I took off going the normal twin speed (which is decently fast with a touch of tire spin when the light turned green). This v6 Camry was next to me and I figured I would go ahead of them normally without any issue and that thing blew by me like a bat of hell, mind you it sounded like it was about to explode to accelerate that fast. Those things can really take off, but not without making a big commotion.



How do you know it was a V6... what if it was a 4 cyl!!!:confused0068:

Jordanwolf 07-31-2019 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3243190)
Oh ya that .1 second 0 to 60 rating over the Twins must be awesome.

Such a glorious .1 second it is. The Glorious Camry Master Race clearly is too good for you.

DandoX 07-31-2019 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by James H (Post 3243200)
How do you know it was a V6... what if it was a 4 cyl!!!:confused0068:

Because the moment he was on the freeway he slowed way down to normal speeds and I passed him in the far left lane. It was a v6 form 2016 maybe?

DandoX 07-31-2019 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3243190)
Oh ya that .1 second 0 to 60 rating over the Twins must be awesome.


Yeah but that is with pro shifting, in the real world. When a v6 Camry owner just stomps the gas in an AT and some dummy like me has to row through gears the Camary wins by a larger margin. However the twins can more casually accelerate fast, like it isn't any big deal where as the Camry shouts and hollers and lets everyone know they are flooring it.

The Camry has to make a big fuss to pass a twin, likely something they don't do that often. Where as I take off from a stop or red light pretty fast consistently because the car is light and its not a big fuss to get going quickly. This is all in a dead straight line of course.

Spuds 07-31-2019 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3243019)
They handle just like a heavy mid sized sedan with loads of power and slightly tweaked suspension. They also make up about 5% of the Camry production so this whole "Camrys can kick our ass" sentiment is bullshit. Even the V6 numbers barely beat the Twins in any manner beyond timed drag race events.
If anybody is getting their "ass kicked" by a Camry they need to trade in their Twin for a nice minivan.

2019s will do 0-60 in 5.8 apparently. Was 2018 an update year?

Jordanwolf 07-31-2019 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Spuds (Post 3243224)
2019s will do 0-60 in 5.8 apparently. Was 2018 an update year?

Yes

Jordanwolf 07-31-2019 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DandoX (Post 3243218)
Yeah but that is with pro shifting, in the real world. When a v6 Camry owner just stomps the gas in an AT and some dummy like me has to row through gears the Camary wins by a larger margin. However the twins can more casually accelerate fast, like it isn't any big deal where as the Camry shouts and hollers and lets everyone know they are flooring it.

The Camry has to make a big fuss to pass a twin, likely something they don't do that often. Where as I take off from a stop or red light pretty fast consistently because the car is light and its not a big fuss to get going quickly. This is all in a dead straight line of course.

Bruh, you only have to make like 1 or 2 shifts, you can't be that bad. You could even dump your clutch from like 4.5k (I do not suggest doing this readers) to really scare that fool.

DandoX 07-31-2019 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordanwolf (Post 3243230)
Bruh, you only have to make like 1 or 2 shifts, you can't be that bad. You could even dump your clutch from like 4.5k (I do not suggest doing this readers) to really scare that fool.

Hey Im not going around trying to drag race Camrys, I'm talking about a standard twin start that is brisk but not out of the ordinary. I don't need to redline going on an onramp to beat a Camry, if they are that determined to pass to prove to themselves or make them feel better than it is fine with me.

I'm just trying to get to my location with a bit of fun. I almost always take off the line briskly but Im not launching it for a drag race against a Camry, plus I passed that dude on the freeway right away.

Tcoat 07-31-2019 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DandoX (Post 3243218)
Yeah but that is with pro shifting, in the real world. When a v6 Camry owner just stomps the gas in an AT and some dummy like me has to row through gears the Camary wins by a larger margin. However the twins can more casually accelerate fast, like it isn't any big deal where as the Camry shouts and hollers and lets everyone know they are flooring it.

The Camry has to make a big fuss to pass a twin, likely something they don't do that often. Where as I take off from a stop or red light pretty fast consistently because the car is light and its not a big fuss to get going quickly. This is all in a dead straight line of course.

Meh that is always the excuse when the numbers are used. The Twins are always "wrong" for some reason but every other car is correct.
Using the base numbers it is .1 second over the MT. Doesn't matter how they got hem. Now of course the poor AT drivers are only going to see Camry tail lights but that is a different matter.

Tcoat 07-31-2019 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Spuds (Post 3243224)
2019s will do 0-60 in 5.8 apparently. Was 2018 an update year?

OK .4 seconds. We are doomed.

DandoX 07-31-2019 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3243236)
Meh that is always the excuse when the numbers are used. The Twins are always "wrong" for some reason but every other car is correct.
Using the base numbers it is .1 second over the MT. Doesn't matter how they got hem. Now of course the poor AT drivers are only going to see Camry tail lights but that is a different matter.

What I'm saying is I'm not as good as the driver who got that 0-60 time in a manual (I bet a bunch of twin owners are not that skilled). Also in the real world when I'm not planning on drag racing to 60 (even though to get on the free way it is a drag to 70-75) and all the camry owner has to do is stop their right foot to go fast. So in the average circumstance those v6 Camrys can just pull away in a straight line if they choose to go to redline to pass a twin. If they do not go to redline then the twin will pass them handily with barely going over 6k rpm.

Also I feel I should mention in all my 6 years of ownership I have seen one or maybe two Camry v6s that where even willing to drive with any sort of aggressiveness so among Camrys as you said it is a rarity but when they feel the need for speed they can get going pretty damn fast from a stop.

xdavidx 07-31-2019 07:38 PM

Before I bought my 86, I was 'considering' getting a boring reliable sedan like the accord or camry. I had just sold my M235. My friend, knowing this was really stupid of me to even consider and I would always regret it, made the ultimate sacrifice.... He flew out from NYC and rented a camry (v6) for the day. Came over early on a sunday morning, threw me the keys, and said.. let's go to supercar sunday - you drive.


He made his point... I was immediately frustrated with just how horribly the car handled and felt. Everything I did, it was like it would pause 5 seconds before it would react to my inputs. Then when it did it somehow did in the most annoying way possible. Made stupid noises and blinked and flashed at me. Brakes felt like giant soft sponges and the car would dive whenever I tried to actually use them as I don't think Toyota ever expected anyone to try to change speed or direction rapidly in that car. I was cussing and swear at the thing constantly on the drive over. Felt horribly embarrassed around real car people that I knew with some of the best cars in LA (and hence the world).. pulling up in a Camry I parked at the far edge of the lot out of shame. At least it was a rental... Then we went out to a few dealerships to do some test drives of other cars including a brz, wrx and a maserati wth. Got back in the Camry to drive to a malibu beach house with some hot girls... in a Camry... I gave the keys back to my friend and said, 'I'm never driving that thing again. If you don't drive it back, I'm driving it into the ocean where it belongs'. Bought my 86 the next day.



Point of the story: There is nothing on paper that will ever make the Camry in any way competitive with the twins. It is a truly awful car to drive in all regards no matter how much your mother says it is the best car she's ever owned.

StraightOuttaCanadaEh 07-31-2019 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by xdavidx (Post 3243254)
It is a truly awful car to drive in all regards no matter how much your mother says it is the best car she's ever owned.

I feel this way about the Civic. In every conceivable way, it's the car people talk about when they say this insufferable phrase "I don't care about cars, I just need something to get me from point A to point B". Even typing that out just now was awful. I would actively avoid driving that car and absolutely understand why people hate driving and want self-driving cars. It is a miserable, joyless thing meant to destroy souls and ambition

Jordanwolf 07-31-2019 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by xdavidx (Post 3243254)
Before I bought my 86, I was 'considering' getting a boring reliable sedan like the accord or camry. I had just sold my M235. My friend, knowing this was really stupid of me to even consider and I would always regret it, made the ultimate sacrifice.... He flew out from NYC and rented a camry (v6) for the day. Came over early on a sunday morning, threw me the keys, and said.. let's go to supercar sunday - you drive.


He made his point... I was immediately frustrated with just how horribly the car handled and felt. Everything I did, it was like it would pause 5 seconds before it would react to my inputs. Then when it did it somehow did in the most annoying way possible. Made stupid noises and blinked and flashed at me. Brakes felt like giant soft sponges and the car would dive whenever I tried to actually use them as I don't think Toyota ever expected anyone to try to change speed or direction rapidly in that car. I was cussing and swear at the thing constantly on the drive over. Felt horribly embarrassed around real car people that I knew with some of the best cars in LA (and hence the world).. pulling up in a Camry I parked at the far edge of the lot out of shame. At least it was a rental... Then we went out to a few dealerships to do some test drives of other cars including a brz, wrx and a maserati wth. Got back in the Camry to drive to a malibu beach house with some hot girls... in a Camry... I gave the keys back to my friend and said, 'I'm never driving that thing again. If you don't drive it back, I'm driving it into the ocean where it belongs'. Bought my 86 the next day.



Point of the story: There is nothing on paper that will ever make the Camry in any way competitive with the twins. It is a truly awful car to drive in all regards no matter how much your mother says it is the best car she's ever owned.

? On paper is where it IS competitive. Real life, it is not.


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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3243237)
OK .4 seconds. We are doomed.

There is a guy on youtube with a 2017 86 that pulls 6.06 0-60 stock. So you're .4 just became a .26.


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