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SmoothIsSlow 07-22-2019 06:06 PM

Realistically, how many hours of work to remove front driver seat for cleaning?
 
Hi all,

I got a pretty bad case of motion sickness this weekend at the track and vomitted while on track :barf:

I got the car interior cleaned professionally and they sprayed a lot of the pet enzyme stuff to get rid off of bio-related odor.

A lot of the vomit got between the space between the driver’s seat and center console, as well as the seat rails. The detail shop got rid off of the majority of it but I am thinking that I should spend a weekend and take out the driver’s seat and get it more thoroughly cleaned that way (the car stills smells a little).

How many hours of work is it to remove the seat and reinstall it? I see that it’s just 4 bolts but I would really hate to underestimate how hard it is and not have a car to drive to work on Monday…

Thanks!

Pat 07-22-2019 06:18 PM

Ten minutes. It involves removing those bolts and a couple plastic clips underneath. It's not rocket surgery. Be careful you don't hit the steering wheel with the seat rails, as they are sharp, You may want to wrap the steering wheel with towels just to be safe. Also, be sure you have the proper tool to fit those bolts. It's not a common one IIRC.

humfrz 07-22-2019 06:25 PM

Well, I have to give you credit for telling THAT story - :eyebulge:


humfrz

SmoothIsSlow 07-22-2019 06:28 PM

@Pat I am reading a lot of horror stories on this forum of people with the proper E10 Torx socket still stripping the screws regardless. I wonder if it was a case of people who had a positive experience not commenting on those posts.

EAGLE5 07-22-2019 06:56 PM

This is why you barely eat at track days. A banana or some apple sauce here and there. Some water. Unless you're the iron stomach, always a good idea.

new2subaru 07-22-2019 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SmoothIsSlow (Post 3239941)
@Pat I am reading a lot of horror stories on this forum of people with the proper E10 Torx socket still stripping the screws regardless. I wonder if it was a case of people who had a positive experience not commenting on those posts.

They can be a royal pain in the ass. I have stripped at least three and drilled the tops out to remove. I went in knowing what I was getting into and read a lot of info prior. I replaced them with hex head bolts.

Removing the head rest prior to taking the seat out makes life easier.

If you have trouble you can always leave it for another day. A stripped bolt won’t stop you from getting to work.

new2subaru 07-22-2019 07:04 PM

Here is a photo of what I mean. Not mine.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...7&postcount=22

Leonardo 07-22-2019 07:08 PM

The first three bolts took 2 minutes. Then... 2 days for the last bolt. I would carefully use a breaker bar, not an impact driver, to remove them.

Here is how I finally got the bolt out...
https://www.ft86club.com/forums/show...t=54722&page=2

SmoothIsSlow 07-22-2019 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by jsimon7777 (Post 3239953)
This is why you barely eat at track days. A banana or some apple sauce here and there. Some water. Unless you're the iron stomach, always a good idea.

Yup, I got nauseous doing my second track day ever. I decided it was because I didn’t eat enough. Def overcorrected.

Also about Dramamine for my next outing. I am determined to track and I will have to conquer the motion sickness one way or another.:eyebulge:

new2subaru 07-22-2019 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Leonardo (Post 3239960)
The first three bolts took 2 minutes. Then... 2 days for the last bolt. I would carefully use a breaker bar, not an impact driver, to remove them.

Here is how I finally got the bolt out...
https://www.ft86club.com/forums/show...t=54722&page=2

:laughabove: not really but ya lol

SmoothIsSlow 07-22-2019 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leonardo (Post 3239960)
The first three bolts took 2 minutes. Then... 2 days for the last bolt. I would carefully use a breaker bar, not an impact driver, to remove them.

Here is how I finally got the bolt out...
https://www.ft86club.com/forums/show...t=54722&page=2

So for a well-prepared/lucky individual, the whole affaire could be 5 minutes?

Leonardo 07-22-2019 07:16 PM

Yeah, that was three years ago... I took the seats out, skinned them, and installed a 100% leather seat skin kit. The bolt stripping was frustrating.

EAGLE5 07-22-2019 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SmoothIsSlow (Post 3239961)
Yup, I got nauseous doing my second track day ever. I decided it was because I didn’t eat enough. Def overcorrected.

Also about Dramamine for my next outing. I am determined to track and I will have to conquer the motion sickness one way or another.:eyebulge:

I've felt nauseous at most track days I go to, but especially at Thunderhill. I've puked at least twice there, but always into the trash. I cannot drive karts. I also cannot usually let someone else drive.

soundman98 07-22-2019 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Pat (Post 3239933)
Ten minutes. It involves removing those bolts and a couple plastic clips underneath. It's not rocket surgery. Be careful you don't hit the steering wheel with the seat rails, as they are sharp, You may want to wrap the steering wheel with towels just to be safe. Also, be sure you have the proper tool to fit those bolts. It's not a common one IIRC.

don't forget that there are side impact air bags in the seats, meaning there's a plug under the seat, and the potential to ignite the airbag if power is not disconnected for at least 5 minutes before unplugging the harnesses.

you don't want that surprise!
http://184.2.141.40/frontend/iihs/ra...2761&width=400

toast 07-22-2019 11:42 PM

Figuring out how to get the yellow airbag plug to release takes longer than anything else (unless you strip out the bolts). I've done it dozens of times and still have to figure it out all over again each time.

GrantedTaken 07-23-2019 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by jsimon7777 (Post 3239953)
This is why you barely eat at track days. A banana or some apple sauce here and there. Some water. Unless you're the iron stomach, always a good idea.

Stupid advice.
OP clearly has a medical condition

humfrz 07-23-2019 12:05 PM

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I've felt nauseous at most track days I go to, but especially at Thunderhill. I've puked at least twice there, but always into the trash. I cannot drive karts. I also cannot usually let someone else drive.

Oh, I definitely would have seated you to the rear (down wind).

:D

humfrz

EAGLE5 07-23-2019 12:28 PM

I've puked in the backseat of a helicopter before, too. It was the smell of poorly burnt hydrocarbons that put me over the edge. Also that last swooping turn. Also that Chinese food we ate right before.

humfrz 07-23-2019 02:35 PM

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I've puked in the backseat of a helicopter before, too. It was the smell of poorly burnt hydrocarbons that put me over the edge. Also that last swooping turn. Also that Chinese food we ate right before.

NEVER eat Chinese before you get on a chopper - :eyebulge:


humfrz

EAGLE5 07-23-2019 04:34 PM

Yeah, I know that NOW.

Shizuka 07-23-2019 05:02 PM

Sorry, I have absolutely nothing productive to add, but is this you? LOL (12:10 in the video if my timestamp didn't work)

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLUngTIKVBs&t=12m10s[/ame]

Dadhawk 07-23-2019 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jsimon7777 (Post 3239953)
This is why you barely eat at track days. A banana or some apple sauce here and there. Some water. Unless you're the iron stomach, always a good idea.

I took aerobatics lessons once. I was told by the instructor that the best advice she could give me was to eat bananas before the flight. She said they didn't help with nausea, but they did taste the same in both directions.

SmoothIsSlow 07-23-2019 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Shizuka (Post 3240306)
Sorry, I have absolutely nothing productive to add, but is this you? LOL (12:10 in the video if my timestamp didn't work)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLUngTIKVBs&t=12m10s

I have GoPro footage of said event but I don’t think I want to post it. A handful of people on this planet has seen it and I think it’s for the better.

EAGLE5 07-23-2019 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Dadhawk (Post 3240312)
I took aerobatics lessons once. I was told by the instructor that the best advice she could give me was to eat bananas before the flight. She said they didn't help with nausea, but they did taste the same in both directions.

Yeah, I've heard that before. Apples are probably fine too. Rice. Crackers. Toast. Basically the BRAT diet is gonna be OK, because your stomach isn't working hard, and these foods are easy on the stomach.


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