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Johnny Horsepower 07-09-2019 09:14 AM

Water, water, everywhere
 
This is where I parked yesterday:

https://www.reddit.com/r/nova/commen..._the_metrowod/

It happened in the morning, all the outside water had drained by the time I got to it after work. Parked on a slight incline, the back seats were damp and a couple inches of water was in the front driver's side. Did not try to start it, had it towed.

The insurance adjuster is going to take a look this morning, and the tower said be prepared for them to total it. But the mechanic thinks no water entered the engine compartment and he's only concerned about some of the electronics.

Tcoat 07-09-2019 09:25 AM

Where did that much water come from so suddenly? That would suck so badly!

Dadhawk 07-09-2019 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3234994)
Where did that much water come from so suddenly? That would suck so badly!

DC had the equivalent of one month's rain in one hour yesterday.

https://wtop.com/weather-news/2019/0...onday-morning/

Bowflex 07-09-2019 09:49 AM

That sucks. I'm in NoVa too. I checked my car as soon as I got home. Thankfully the drains by my car were able to keep up with the rain.

humfrz 07-09-2019 11:40 AM

UGH!

Maybe, just maybe, if it is allowed to dry out, it will be OK. - :iono:


humfrz

Dake 07-09-2019 11:48 AM

That sucks man. Personally, I'd rather it was totaled.

EAGLE5 07-09-2019 12:12 PM

Uh, yeah. Dirty water = totaled. Even if it runs fine, it's gonna be a moldy mess.

Leonardo 07-09-2019 01:26 PM

Sorry that sucks soooo bad!!!!!!

I used to by cars at auction. I bought a flood car only ONE time; it was a huge PITA!!!!

Tcoat 07-09-2019 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Dadhawk (Post 3234999)
DC had the equivalent of one month's rain in one hour yesterday.

https://wtop.com/weather-news/2019/0...onday-morning/

Yep. That would do it!

evomike 07-09-2019 02:15 PM

general rule of thumb is if the water line touches the bottom of the seat they total it, safe to say its a gonner.

Tcoat 07-09-2019 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by evomike (Post 3235084)
general rule of thumb is if the water line touches the bottom of the seat they total it, safe to say its a gonner.

The base here is if a "significant" amount of water enters the passenger compartment. It is of course left up to the adjusters to define what "significant" means.

Atmo 07-09-2019 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Horsepower (Post 3234991)
...The insurance adjuster is going to take a look this morning, and the tower said be prepared for them to total it. But the mechanic thinks no water entered the engine compartment and he's only concerned about some of the electronics.

Sorry, most likely totaled.

Maybe the mechanic isn't concerned but he isn't assuming liability for repairs that will include safety-related sensors like those determining airbag rate of inflation.

Pull out the seatbelt and if you see a water line anywhere on the belt, it's toast.

JD001 07-09-2019 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3234994)
Where did that much water come from so suddenly? That would suck so badly!





Looks like something didn't 'suck' but burped!! Grease balls blocking drains, a real thing in the UK. Victorian drains can't cope..


http://www.taipeitimes.com/images/20...180212-332.jpg

8RZ 07-09-2019 03:51 PM

Did the damn dam break?

Tcoat 07-09-2019 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by JD001 (Post 3235113)
Looks like something didn't 'suck' but burped!! Grease balls blocking drains, a real thing in the UK. Victorian drains can't cope..


http://www.taipeitimes.com/images/20...180212-332.jpg

I watched a whole documentary on the sewers and the stuff that clogs them there once. Not a North American problem generally.


Oh and yes my taste in TV is odd but there are obviously enough of us interested they made the show in the first place.

NyC Zn6 07-09-2019 04:01 PM

Hey , I had this same issue the water is getting collected by the trunk trim and is flowing down into the lower trunk area. Take out the rear panels in the trunk and stick your hand down by the inner wheel wells. The water seems to not flow over the tail light cover and go out from the trunk trim as intended. I'm surprised not a lot of people have this issue. Mine's began when i swapped out my OEM tails for Valenti's. My back seats would get wet and i would be so confused until i started to look for the source. I hope this helps.

Atmo 07-09-2019 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JD001 (Post 3235113)
Looks like something didn't 'suck' but burped!! Grease balls blocking drains, a real thing in the UK. Victorian drains can't cope..


http://www.taipeitimes.com/images/20...180212-332.jpg

Caused by discarded haggis?

JD001 07-09-2019 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NyC Zn6 (Post 3235120)
Hey , I had this same issue the water is getting collected by the trunk trim and is flowing down into the lower trunk area. Take out the rear panels in the trunk and stick your hand down by the inner wheel wells. The water seems to not flow over the tail light cover and go out from the trunk trim as intended. I'm surprised not a lot of people have this issue. Mine's began when i swapped out my OEM tails for Valenti's. My back seats would get wet and i would be so confused until i started to look for the source. I hope this helps.



OEM vs aftermarket......

JD001 07-09-2019 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Atmo (Post 3235123)
Caused by discarded haggis?



Nah, haggis is not the issue.. its deep fried fast food eateries pouring old cooking oil down the drains.. deep fried Mars bars!!


https://noseychef.com/wp-content/upl...17/12/mars.jpg

Johnny Horsepower 07-09-2019 05:15 PM

The insurance adjuster is calling it a total loss. He was adding up the repairs, then stopped when he got to $14K with no end in sight.

Silverz 07-09-2019 07:02 PM

In Europe, poop and pee goes into the same sewer system as storm water. And it all goes out to the lakes, rivers and oceans.

humfrz 07-09-2019 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3235119)
I watched a whole documentary on the sewers and the stuff that clogs them there once. Not a North American problem generally.


Oh and yes my taste in TV is odd but there are obviously enough of us interested they made the show in the first place.

What can I say, what can I say - :iono:


humfrz

humfrz 07-09-2019 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silverz (Post 3235197)
In Europe, poop and pee goes into the same sewer system as storm water. And it all goes out to the lakes, rivers and oceans.

I thought they just threw it out the windows - :iono:


humfrz

Tcoat 07-09-2019 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silverz (Post 3235197)
In Europe, poop and pee goes into the same sewer system as storm water. And it all goes out to the lakes, rivers and oceans.

Not for several decades it hasn't. They have much less fresh water than we do so are treating all sewage far more efficiently.

Urban waste water treatment
"The treatment of urban wastewater is fundamental to ensuring public health and environmental protection. Urban waste water treatment in all parts of Europe has improved over recent decades. The proportion of the population connected to waste water treatment plants in northern countries has been above 80 % since 1995, with more than 70 % of urban waste water receiving tertiary treatment. In central European countries, connection rates have increased since 1995 and are now at 97 %, with about 75 % receiving tertiary treatment. The proportion of the population connected to urban waste water treatment in southern, south-eastern and eastern Europe is generally lower than in other parts of Europe, but has increased over the last 10 years with levels now at about 70 %"

https://www.eea.europa.eu/themes/wat...ressures#toc-4

This is the same numbers as North America.

soundman98 07-09-2019 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Horsepower (Post 3235151)
The insurance adjuster is calling it a total loss. He was adding up the repairs, then stopped when he got to $14K with no end in sight.

just remember, cars are like goldfish. it hurts when they die, but buy one the same color again, and it's hard to remember there was ever a difference between the 2.

extrashaky 07-10-2019 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3235258)
Not for several decades it hasn't. They have much less fresh water than we do so are treating all sewage far more efficiently.

Urban waste water treatment
"The treatment of urban wastewater is fundamental to ensuring public health and environmental protection. Urban waste water treatment in all parts of Europe has improved over recent decades. The proportion of the population connected to waste water treatment plants in northern countries has been above 80 % since 1995, with more than 70 % of urban waste water receiving tertiary treatment. In central European countries, connection rates have increased since 1995 and are now at 97 %, with about 75 % receiving tertiary treatment. The proportion of the population connected to urban waste water treatment in southern, south-eastern and eastern Europe is generally lower than in other parts of Europe, but has increased over the last 10 years with levels now at about 70 %"

https://www.eea.europa.eu/themes/wat...ressures#toc-4

This is the same numbers as North America.

Damned Canadians. Always dispelling our illusions of superiority.

Johnny Horsepower 07-10-2019 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soundman98 (Post 3235311)
just remember, cars are like goldfish. it hurts when they die, but buy one the same color again, and it's hard to remember there was ever a difference between the 2.

Except there don't seem to be any 6,000 mile goldfish for $20K anymore. :(

Tcoat 07-10-2019 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Horsepower (Post 3235397)
Except there don't seem to be any 6,000 mile goldfish for $20K anymore. :(

Ya that few miles on a 15 makes it more like an unusual koi than a goldfish.

Myriad 07-10-2019 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Horsepower (Post 3235151)
The insurance adjuster is calling it a total loss. He was adding up the repairs, then stopped when he got to $14K with no end in sight.

That sucks, man. Hope the insurance company gives you enough to afford a new one.

In PA I’ve noticed a few parking lots have signs that say this lot is in a flood plain or is prone to flooding in bad conditions, park at your own risk. Were there any signs like that? Not that I would bother with such a legal route, but I’m assuming these lot owners don’t want to be liable and sued for not warning you. Another potential liability issue is maintaining storm drains that might be clogged or undersized for the amount of water the lot can handle. Of course if the local creek floods and overtops the road there is nothing any storm drain can handle.

Myriad

bcj 07-10-2019 11:41 AM

The news coverage we got up here showed main streets converted to significant rivers, not just creeks.

soundman98 07-10-2019 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Horsepower (Post 3235397)
Except there don't seem to be any 6,000 mile goldfish for $20K anymore. :(

there is, just maybe not on the market yet ;)

Johnny Horsepower 09-22-2019 05:36 PM

Insurance issued the check last week, over 2 months after the flood.

The first time I called to see what was taking so long, the insurance company was waiting for a document from the finance company. Turned out they had faxed it to their phone number.

The second time I called to see what was taking so long, the insurance company had received the document but it was illegible. I asked them why they couldn't follow up on their own without waiting for me to call, and they said they'd try to do better.

The third time I called to see what was taking so long, the insurance company said that just the day before, they had called the finance company, who had agreed to expedite the issue. And then a week later the check was issued.

I had bought the GAP insurance in the heat of the moment, and later decided it was a mistake. However, it turned out to be a good deal in this case.

JD001 09-22-2019 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 3235247)
I thought they just threw it out the windows - :iono:


humfrz



Windows, open sewers or just put it on boats and shipped to new worlds.. why contaminate your own backyard when you can share with the wider world!!

JD001 09-22-2019 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Horsepower (Post 3260010)
Insurance issued the check last week, over 2 months after the flood.

The first time I called to see what was taking so long, the insurance company was waiting for a document from the finance company. Turned out they had faxed it to their phone number.

The second time I called to see what was taking so long, the insurance company had received the document but it was illegible. I asked them why they couldn't follow up on their own without waiting for me to call, and they said they'd try to do better.

The third time I called to see what was taking so long, the insurance company said that just the day before, they had called the finance company, who had agreed to expedite the issue. And then a week later the check was issued.

I had bought the GAP insurance in the heat of the moment, and later decided it was a mistake. However, it turned out to be a good deal in this case.



Well, it does take time to dry things.....

soundman98 09-22-2019 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Horsepower (Post 3260010)
Insurance issued the check last week, over 2 months after the flood.

The first time I called to see what was taking so long, the insurance company was waiting for a document from the finance company. Turned out they had faxed it to their phone number.

The second time I called to see what was taking so long, the insurance company had received the document but it was illegible. I asked them why they couldn't follow up on their own without waiting for me to call, and they said they'd try to do better.

The third time I called to see what was taking so long, the insurance company said that just the day before, they had called the finance company, who had agreed to expedite the issue. And then a week later the check was issued.

I had bought the GAP insurance in the heat of the moment, and later decided it was a mistake. However, it turned out to be a good deal in this case.

welcome to specifically why most people hate doing anything with insurance. their responsibility is to make you whole. but they don't say anything about how quickly they're willing to make that happen.

i've known a few fire restoration companies that have gone under due to the insurance payout time table. they can take up to 6mo-1yr before they pay out on work they've contracted...

humfrz 09-22-2019 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JD001 (Post 3260012)
Windows, open sewers or just put it on boats and shipped to new worlds.. why contaminate your own backyard when you can share with the wider world!!

Yes, like to China - let them sort it out - :iono:


humfrz

g e 09-23-2019 03:08 PM

I have Amica and they are excellent to work with.

No connection other than happy customer.


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