Suicidal
 

My sister died last year 6/22 her birthday is 7/3. I told myself at 17 I was going to kill myself I wasn’t rich by 27. I’m 23 now and I don’t see it happening. I’m depressed. I’m about ready to push it up sooner. Idk what to do. Drugs aren’t helping. Alcohol isn’t helping. I’m tired of the bullshit. I got a 5 year old I haven’t seen since he was 6 months old. I’m just losing it.


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I'm 37, still not rich. But I can tell you that my 30s were way better than my 20s. At this age your old enough to know what you want out of life, but still young enough to enjoy it. I wouldn't take to your 30s away from yourself just because your 20s have been rough. Do you have friends and family to talk to? You don't have to outright tell them you are a risk to yourself but you could clue them in that you need some emotional help. Never make permanent choices if you can make less permanent ones. Your mind can make you feel like there is no other option, but there are ALWAYS other options.

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hey man I hear ya, I thought money was important and after my divorce and losing my kid for a few years such thoughts crossed my mind as well. However I refocused my life goals and currently I feel pretty content with life because now I focus on my interests and hobbies like playing the guitar, tennis with friends, video games, car enthusiasm, etc...things I can venture into deeply until I die..my 2 cents is that anyone who focuses on this fake capitalistic system of money is bound to be unhappy EVEN if they become rich AF because guess what it isn't what life is about! If you don't have real life long interests & hobbies, then no matter how much money you have, life will always feel empty and boring! stay strong brother, life is all about finding challenges that you like to get dirty in.. don't fret if it doesn't come naturally, like everything in life it takes time..

This may sound trivial but how is your sleep?

Sleep deprivation (getting 6 hours a night or less) is behind almost all of the ailments that plague humans, including depression, suicidal thoughts, suicidal attempts. For example, the less sleep a teenager gets, the more likely they’re to commit suicide, and most importantly, carry it out to completion.

You mentioned drugs and alcohol. What kinds of drugs? I hope they’re not the kind that are supposed to help you sleep because the sleep they bring is not the kind you need. I hope you take the time to get at the root of what’s causing the health issues that you’re taking the drugs for and realize that the pills only treat the symptoms and not the underlying cause.

Notice I haven’t said anything about money or anything else. It’s important to understand that it’s not the problem. That is not what’s causing you to be depressed. However if you live a lifestyle detrimental to your health (lack of sleep, drugs, malnutrition, shift work), your mind simply focuses on the negative. The resulting depression is the manifestation of your physical state, not the other way around. So I hope you identify what that is and deal with the issue. Leave the drugs and get good sleep. Good luck!

Money is not important , good relationships with people is most important , because we are all given just a short amount of time on this planet.

Hang in there. There’s always a light at the end of the tunnel, even if there are some obstacles on the way.

Unfortunately society tries to push this idea of being “rich” and how it’s this big necessary thing in order for us to be “successful.”

Maybe try to find a hobby or something to do and work at. Like rock climbing or building electronics with arduinos or something. You could really invest into anything like that and become rich in knowledge. Then use that experience to teach others. Maybe do videos on those things for kids.

Aiming to become rich doesn’t have to do with money.

I hope you can figure some things out.

Look on the positive, you're 23, have a BRZ and a child that you will see soon enough. Getting rich is never a dream to chase, you want to find a job that you enjoy and friends that you like being with.. all else will fall into place.

There are folk on this forum that I'm sure seen good and bad in life but frequent this place to have a laugh and joke.

The twenties are a ball breaker, as peer pressure and other shite comes into play but stick with it and you'll come out to see the brighter side of things.

Our society is a disgusting cesspool. Ignore it.

The only thing that matters is you and what you want. Figure that out and go for it. That is what will make you happy. If you fail, so what? Failure is a part of life. The greatest men in our history failed so many times at everything they did, but they kept on going until they succeeded.

Life is a grueling evil slog of one brawl after another. It sucks, it is meant to suck, and the people that do well just keep on fighting. You cannot control what is outside, and it is never a path to anything. Figure out who you are, and cater to yourself, and nothing that happens will be as big of a deal.

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I don't know you, but want to share that I struggle too. I will be 39 in a few days. And have found that, for me anyway, alcohol does more harm than good. Additionally, Money is not the path to happiness. (sure, it helps) But the key to happiness, IMO, is finding something that you love doing that also makes money.

I have a list of things taped to my dash that I look at on my drive home. Its all the things I'm thankful for and have to live for. Simple things like this help more than you would think.

Sleep is also SUPER IMPORTANT, as others have mentioned.

Also, exercise (running) helps me stay happy! (and healthy)

My mom's birthday is also tomorrow.

OP, Thank you for sharing. It sounds like you have a lot to live for, don't give up on yourself or your family.

Drop everything and:
Call 1-800-273-8255
OR text HOME to 741741
OR chat at http://chat.suicidepreventionlifelin...elineChat.aspx

Suicidal thoughts are not uncommon, and you can get past them then live happily. Two of my best friends were suicidal and one point, and both are living good lives decades on. Don't listen to your 17-year-old self. Be wise. You can get feel better.

Also self-medicating with drugs and alcohol can make the feelings worse. There are other prescription drugs that can help.

Being rich isn't about how much money you have.
Money is important, yes. You need money to procure the essentials, but it shouldn't be the be-all end-all of your focus. That may be why you're feeling so down...
Perhaps a shift in focus will put you on a happier path.

Time heals, friend. Let it.

That attitude is WHY so many people are unhappy. The OP STARTED with, basically, what he thought mattered most to him and going for it (being rich). Obviously, that didn't work out. If we all lived as if ourselves and our wants were the only things that mattered, the world would be an incredibly miserable place. What matters is the good we can do for others, and the gratitude we can express for what we DO have. That's where happiness lives.




EXACTLY.. not hyperbole. OP, if you are reading this, do EXACTLY this. Call that number immediately... turn off your computer, and talk with a human being you can hear who can help you. NOW.

This x100

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE call/text/chat with someone qualified about what you're feeling. Today sucks. But tomorrow might not. Only way to find out is to be there.

Sorry for worrying everyone. I had a moment of weakness, I felt down and felt the need to reach out. I appreciate all the love and support, and even though I’m going through a rough time at the moment I won’t let it get to me like it did last night. I’ll just continue trying to make things better.


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Good to hear. Feel free to reach out to any of us over PM any time

Hey man we are here for you, you have support from the twin community.

It's not weakness. Just gather those ways of asking for help and keep them handy. You just have to make it past the hard points.

My father raised me to be very self-reliant, and I became that... to a fault. Now throughout most of my adult life, he's been telling me, "Don't be stupid... everybody needs help sometimes. When you need help, GET HELP!"


There is NO shame, nor weakness, in getting help when you need it. Get some help. Use those numbers Jsimon posted. Talk to folks who are positive influences on your life that you can actually see and hear in real life. Reach out to whomever you feel you've made some connections with and who have been positive and helpful to you here, if you wish... share contact info via PM.

Given how down you sounded, it might not be wise to just gloss over this. Talk to some folks to help make sure you don't get to that point, or worse, again.

Hey man, a support system is the best thing you can have. In all too familiar with suicide. And if it wasn't for my best friend and his family I wouldn't be here today. I remember while I was in the Army, things went to shit. I had a slew of injuries that basically ruined a dream of serving my country. I had toxic ass leadership and no one to go to. The Chaplin was great but didn't do much for me. I remember seeing no way out. I had auditory hallucinations, nightmares, and severe depression and anxiety. After months of dealing with it, I found myself laying in bed texting my best friend telling him I was sorry. Then proceeded to make it for the stairs to leap off the top of my barracks. It sounded quick and painless. Thankfully his mom called my battalion command and someone stopped me before I could get out of my room. I'll never forget how I felt. I was embarrassed, angry, frightened, and disappointed in myself for letting down my fellow troops and family and friends. I got help from a counselor and proper therapy before being discharged. It still haunts me sometimes tbh. But I realized it's not the way. There's always someone to help you. Every now and then when I feel down, by buddy is the go to. It's hard but something as simple as venting can do a lot of good.

I talked to my girl. Sometimes it’s hard to express my self in words. Or what I’m going through. But she definitely helps me out.


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I agree... even if you don’t necessarily know how to vent about it. Just to speak on what’s bothering you or how you feel helps. Sometimes it’s so hard for me to express my emotions though. I just let them all build up and then I end of breaking. I gotta stop doing that though.


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I disagree totally. The only reason anyone wants to be rich is because society tells them it is important, when it is totally and completely meaningless. It is not a goal that comes from within, but one forced on people by an evil meaningless materialistic moronic useless society. Our society offers nearly nothing at all if you want to be truly happy.

Happiness and joy can only come from within. Everything else, including the fake high people get from "helping others," is totally false.

And I also disagree with your second point. If people took the time to make themselves better human beings first, rather than worry about what everyone else is doing and how they must "help" them, which really means they decide that other people are too stupid to take care of themselves so they must "need" to be told what to do, our world would be a better place.

Our society is already a miserable place, because far too many people think they are superior to everyone else and that must mean they have to "help" them, when the world would be much better if they minded their own damn business.

To prove the point, parts of Africa are in a really bad situation. We keep making it worse, because we keep giving them free materialistic garbage. No one can earn a living there, because why would anyone pay for anything when they can get it for free? This type of thinking is destroying everything.

Now if you mean, go volunteer, like at local food kitchens, or places that actually do positive things, then I'm wrong about your meanings. Far too many people would never actually take the time to do anything positive in this world, yet they still think they are "helping." Just avoid the American Red Cross. You won't find a more evil corporation posing as a "charity".

People absolutely need to get help for themselves. Depression is horrific, disgusting, and evil, and no one should face it alone.

Hopefully your buddy doesn't have his own problems going that he needs to put on hold to help you with yours.
As the person who always gets to be, "The Rock", sometimes I feel like telling people, "I'm not equipped to help you. You need a professional counselor." but I fear that may put them over the edge. I'm glad they know they can rely on me, but it's emotionally draining being vested in everyone else's problems all the time, and having to back burner my own, of which luckily there are not that many.

We gotchu fam.

People dont get depressed because they are unhappy. They get depressed because their life lacks meaning. OP, I think you already figured this out since you said drugs and alcohol dont help, so you are already ahead of the majority.

Also, you might find this helpful reading:

https://www.amazon.com/12-Rules-Life.../dp/0345816021

Well he let's me know his limits and I try not to turn him into "the rock." But it helps because he's in the military as well so we get the particular struggles that comes with the job. I've spent enough time at the VA to get the major problems fix lol (thankfully).

Awesome, and kudos.

We've all got our own problems that always seem bigger than everyone else's problems.

The reality is that all problems don't really matter, but the people that have the problems are what's most important.

The part i get hung up on a lot is that rarely does the person need help solving the problem as often as that person just needs someone to vent to.

We're supposed to avoid religious talk as part of the rules, but it's interesting to me how much of the core of what you're saying is in the bible.. while not everyone is going to agree on deities or religious texts, it's curious to me how the longer i live, the more i hear non-religious rules and banners being put into place that reflect religous teachings. As a history book, i find it interesting that even though we've supposedly evolved as a species, we still have many of the same fundamental problems they had way back then...

The more things change, yada yada yada...

A few random thoughts...


Nearly everyone out there is poor in one shade or another. A few people are rich, and spend some of that money trying to make the rest of us think somehow we can be too. Rags to riches is the oldest story going. Occasionally it happens. Most of the time, it's destructive.
The fastest way to being rich is to not spend. And while you may never find yourself with billions, being diligent about where the $ goes is the fastest way from never making ends meet to finding yourself with a little left to tuck away.
That probably means not spending money on alcohol or other drugs... impulse purchases are huge - never go to a store without a list, and don't buy things not on the list. Find alternate ways for that dopamine rush (yes, that influx of replies and quotes and thanks is a dopamine kick...)



Depression is pretty normal. Lots of help out there, and if you're employed full time you should have access to some free counseling. Use it. It's unlikely you'll find yourself depression-free and happy-ever-after, but you'll have some tools for working through it. I have a grounding list I use (always starts with literal grounding - observe and name 3 objects around me. Then the list, 3 things I haven't finished, but are important to me. One of the things on the list is sometimes a depression trigger, yet it's still there and helpful...)



Not really surprising at all. Religious texts were the only consistent way to codify and spread practices that are beneficial to survival. Don't drink dirty water. Don't eat spoiled meat. Don't kill each-other. General education wasn't a thing for most of human history - nor was leisure time. Yet rest is also important to survival, so it often becomes part of the rituals. It was the only opportunity to spread information not specific to whatever role each individual played in the community. I'm over simplifying, of course, because I've probably already offended someone. :mad0260:

I agree: Being a good person and living a good happy life can be guided by religion. Even though I am not religious. I live by a set of principles that many religions teach. I mean if everyone just went by the Golden Rule; things would be alot better.

I of course can't speak for others, but I've got a rule that any conversation about any topic is acceptable as long as no one attacks others personally. I've learned way more talking to people with opposing lifestyles calmly than i ever could have enforcing the rules of no religious discussion.

I've learned what it comes down to is that regardless of which religion we all identify with(and i consider athiesm a form of religion), it permeates the definition of ourselves, and to ignore such a fundamental part of every person to me is to strip that person of their humanity. And in the end, our humanity is all that separates us from skynet!

https://www.amazon.com/Secret-Rhonda...gateway&sr=8-3

Life is what we make of it, we're magnets and attract energy, good or bad, that is the law of attraction.

I wish I read this book sooner, like around your age, I highly recommend it.

Also, Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem bro, don't do it, life'll get better, Trust me
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Do wanna add, that I feel for ya bro, I do. Just trust me, once you get the hang of it and see it working for you, your life'll change, even if the small stuff manifests first.

I only linked the book because trust me, while I heard it about the law of attraction before, I didn't realize how it worked until I wrote a journal entry and noticed all the little things add up, so start small when ya practice it. You'll thank me later once ya take a look

Also, DON'T say to the universe, "I don't want" or anything of the negative sorts (Like Not/Don't/Can't/etc), universe doesn't hear that, so if you say, "I don't want X/Y/Z", it hears it as "I WANT X/Y/Z"

Reminder to anybody getting offended right about now: This is a very delicate subject here that will ride fence on the rules of this website and interjecting your selfish notions of any advice being given ISN'T welcome.

Reminder that if you’re feeling bad whip your 86/BRZ and beat down Project X by Xavier Wulf. You’ll feel better.


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