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TOtS 06-16-2019 11:21 PM

Why does the G Force Meter go away as soon as I drive?
 
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I have a G-Force meter in my BRZ tS and I noticed that the screen switches to something else, and I can't access it anymore as soon as I start driving.

Anyone knows the reasons behind it? and is there a way to make it stay on?

Ultramaroon 06-17-2019 12:26 AM

So you can't watch it while you drive.

gpvecchi 06-17-2019 02:05 AM

This is the normal behavior for BRZ. Just Toyota works when you drive.

86MLR 06-17-2019 03:38 AM

Because the Toyota 86 is the best Subaru......

Skyehigh55 06-17-2019 06:11 AM

I thought there’s a screen that says the G meter is not displayable during driving.. It’s to be used as a reference, not as an actual live meter.

Here you go bud :)
https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=113169

TOtS 06-19-2019 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Skyehigh55 (Post 3228201)
I thought there’s a screen that says the G meter is not displayable during driving.. It’s to be used as a reference, not as an actual live meter.

Here you go bud :)
https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=113169

Thank you sir

spike021 06-19-2019 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Skyehigh55 (Post 3228201)
I thought there’s a screen that says the G meter is not displayable during driving.. It’s to be used as a reference, not as an actual live meter.

Here you go bud :)
https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=113169

Eh to be fair, the 86 (or some trims of the 86 anyway) actually does have a live G meter that is displayable during driving.

Not to take away from what @Ultramaroon said, since clearly it's a safety thing but it's definitely still a feature; just not on BRZ's for some reason. Maybe Subaru is stricter than Toyota when it comes to safety for this kind of stuff.

Ultramaroon 06-19-2019 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by spike021 (Post 3229062)
Eh to be fair, the 86 (or some trims of the 86 anyway) actually does have a live G meter that is displayable during driving.

Not to take away from what @Ultramaroon said, since clearly it's a safety thing but it's definitely still a feature; just not on BRZ's for some reason. Maybe Subaru is stricter than Toyota when it comes to safety for this kind of stuff.

Meh. Just a dumb toy. "Oooo, shiny!"

wbradley 06-19-2019 10:12 PM

+3 HP

86MLR 06-20-2019 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 3229104)
Meh. Just a dumb toy. "Oooo, shiny!"

Your assumption is correct

My 86 has it, although trying to max it out on all points of the compass was kinda fun, for about 1 minute.

Ultramaroon 06-20-2019 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 86MLR (Post 3229244)
Your assumption is correct

My 86 has it, although trying to max it out on all points of the compass was kinda fun, for about 1 minute.

The 45,135,225, and 315-degree vectors would be the most fun, I'm guessing.

86MLR 06-20-2019 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 3229332)
The 45,135,225, and 315-degree vectors would be the most fun, I'm guessing.

Stinking flyboys with your big numbers and angles and stuff.

I was only ever taught to count up to three.

Whaan-two-three-whaan.

Ultramaroon 06-20-2019 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 86MLR (Post 3229467)
Stinking flyboys with your big numbers and angles and stuff.

I was only ever taught to count up to three.

Whaan-two-three-whaan.

How many fingers do you have?

86MLR 06-21-2019 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 3229549)
How many fingers do you have?

All of them, more luck than good drills though.

Ultramaroon 06-21-2019 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by 86MLR (Post 3229599)
All of them, more luck than good drills though.

Damn! I failed to anticipate that answer.

csol 05-24-2020 09:51 PM

Someone mentioned this functionality can be bypassed with Ecutek tune? Is this correct

solidONE 05-25-2020 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by spike021 (Post 3229062)
Eh to be fair, the 86 (or some trims of the 86 anyway) actually does have a live G meter that is displayable during driving.

Not to take away from what @Ultramaroon said, since clearly it's a safety thing but it's definitely still a feature; just not on BRZ's for some reason. Maybe Subaru is stricter than Toyota when it comes to safety for this kind of stuff.

Which specific models has functional g meter? I'm interested in a retrofit. Need to find the right parts, first then pray it works with the older ECM.

geraldjust 05-26-2020 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by csol (Post 3334482)
Someone mentioned this functionality can be bypassed with Ecutek tune? Is this correct

Imposible, its hard coded to the cluster itself independent of ECU or ABS unit. plus it has nothing to do with the ECU.

geraldjust 05-26-2020 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by solidONE (Post 3334540)
Which specific models has functional g meter? I'm interested in a retrofit. Need to find the right parts, first then pray it works with the older ECM.

any Gt86 cluster. BRZ animation have it disabled and its hard coded to it. gt86 clusters its available.

Older ECM? what do you mean?

solidONE 05-26-2020 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by geraldjust (Post 3334872)
any Gt86 cluster. BRZ animation have it disabled and its hard coded to it. gt86 clusters its available.

Older ECM? what do you mean?

2013 A01C calibration computer vs. whatever the +2017 calibrations. Changes in sensor pin locations etc. etc.

geraldjust 05-28-2020 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by solidONE (Post 3335052)
2013 A01C calibration computer vs. whatever the +2017 calibrations. Changes in sensor pin locations etc. etc.

Nope, so that doesnt matter. Im a canbus expert and i know the data on both type of cars are exactly the same coming from ether car. The only difference is that a gt86 cluster is programmed to show live gmeter, vs brz is not. Everything else is exactly the same. Pin changes or anything else doesnt matter. the only thing that matters us the flow of data though the bus and its the same.

Gerald R.

solidONE 05-28-2020 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by geraldjust (Post 3335682)
Nope, so that doesnt matter. Im a canbus expert and i know the data on both type of cars are exactly the same coming from ether car. The only difference is that a gt86 cluster is programmed to show live gmeter, vs brz is not. Everything else is exactly the same. Pin changes or anything else doesnt matter. the only thing that matters us the flow of data though the bus and its the same.

Gerald R.

Noice:cheers:

Tcoat 05-28-2020 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by geraldjust (Post 3335682)
Nope, so that doesnt matter. Im a canbus expert and i know the data on both type of cars are exactly the same coming from ether car. The only difference is that a gt86 cluster is programmed to show live gmeter, vs brz is not. Everything else is exactly the same. Pin changes or anything else doesnt matter. the only thing that matters us the flow of data though the bus and its the same.

Gerald R.

The question isn't between the two cars but between the pre 17 and post 17 ones.

geraldjust 05-28-2020 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3335710)
The question isn't between the two cars but between the pre 17 and post 17 ones.

Yeah thats what i mean in regards of canbus. Same signals used. Their is no difference in the data between a FRS or BRZ or GT86 pre 17 or post 17. The only difference between models (which is small) is between a push button or turn key. But in regards to what the original question asked its not possible to keep on the gauge in any way. not even a ECU or ABS flash nothing. As this is hard coded to the cluster itself.

csol 06-01-2020 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by geraldjust (Post 3335801)
Yeah thats what i mean in regards of canbus. Same signals used. Their is no difference in the data between a FRS or BRZ or GT86 pre 17 or post 17. The only difference between models (which is small) is between a push button or turn key. But in regards to what the original question asked its not possible to keep on the gauge in any way. not even a ECU or ABS flash nothing. As this is hard coded to the cluster itself.

Do you know if it can be programmed by a 3rd party or how Subaru do software updates for it because there was a recall done in Australia for the tS model gauge cluster software update.

geraldjust 06-01-2020 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by csol (Post 3337095)
Do you know if it can be programmed by a 3rd party or how Subaru do software updates for it because there was a recall done in Australia for the tS model gauge cluster software update.

no unless you know programming, reverse engineer the custom chip they use. etc etc... i have dumped both flash info from the cluster but i did not see anything about the g-meter. sorry.

csol 06-01-2020 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by geraldjust (Post 3337118)
no unless you know programming, reverse engineer the custom chip they use. etc etc... i have dumped both flash info from the cluster but i did not see anything about the g-meter. sorry.

Yeah it seems Subaru is saying that is how they are having it.
https://i.imgur.com/btqaxzL.jpg

Did you ever try modifying the dumped flash for example changing graphics around if there are any raw bitmap graphics in there?


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