Originally Posted by .

Nissan set out to build a better Z and publicly set the Cayman S as an early target. The 370Z doesn't carry the Porsche's swagger or the social status that comes with owning a sports car bearing the crest, but the two cars are near equals in practically every category. Since its inception, the Cayman has been regarded as one of the most balanced sports car platforms ever designed, and for Nissan to nip so close at that car's butt for half the price ($60,200 for a Cayman S, and about $33,000 for a 370Z with the sport package, which includes the bigger brakes, a limited-slip diff, bigger wheels, SyncroRev, and an aero kit) is quite a statement. The Cayman is a slightly better sports car, but the 370Z is a slightly better everyday car. And I don't have to tell you it's one hell of a bargain.

Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 355505)

Nice.

Originally Posted by Shagaliscious (Post 355367)

Who is this "WE" you are referring to? Do you own a Cayman, or a BRZ/FR-S?

Originally Posted by jurjurson (Post 355552)

"WE" as in FRS/BRZ. Cause in the other thread, we say we are better than the 370z, even tho we are not in that class.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1212

Originally Posted by Shagaliscious (Post 355546)

Wait, the 370Z doesn't come stock with a LSD?

Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 355585)

Nope. Part of the sport package option, which includes the syncro rev match (the 7AT's have this built in for all trims) and a few humble spoilers that marginally improve its cd, bigger wheels, tires, and bigger brakes.

The stock brakes are okay but not great, and the LSD is often panned as terrible, but its more than sufficient for a daily driver.

The 350 was a numb turd, but the 370 actually handles pretty well. Could stand to be 200 lbs lighter, IMO tho'.

Originally Posted by raz0rbladez909 (Post 355569)

Seems like you guys really have nothing better to do then troll the FRS/BRZ forums huh?

Originally Posted by Shagaliscious (Post 355597)

:sigh:

I wish the BRZ/FR-S had a sport package option with better brakes and tires. I will say I am annoyed that they "penny pinched" in areas with this car. Some people would gladly pay more for that extra goodness.

Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 355600)

Who's trolling? I still want this car when and if they offer a version with some serious power ups! :party0030:

Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 355605)

This is one of my central gripes about the car. They just didn't get serious about performance upgrades as factory options. Hopefully they will down the road.

On that note: I wish Toyota had set a clear benchmark for a significantly pricier car as Nissan had done.

In keeping with the theme of the thread, if the Z benchmarked the Cayman, why couldn't the FR-S have benchmarked the Z?

Instead they sort of benchmarked the Miata. Sort of.

Originally Posted by jurjurson (Post 353685)

If we can compare ourselves to the 370z. That means we can compare the FRS/BRZ with the porsche cayman!

Cause here is the comparison of the 370z/ Cayman!
http://www.motivemag.com/pub/feature...Cayman_S.shtml

Originally Posted by was385 (Post 357412)

All these 370z guys seem to have a huge inferiority complex that leads them to tell other car owners how much better their car is. If you need to bring everyone else down to enjoy your own car, then you probably don't really like your car as much as you say. I'm sure the 370z is a really nice car and I'm glad you all enjoy it. I personally don't like the styling, but like most everything else you guys keep harping on about, that is subjective to the individual. Enjoy your car, we will do the same for ours.

Originally Posted by raz0rbladez909 (Post 355634)

Just seemed the OP was trolling, and I took some of what you were saying in the other thread the same I guess. My apologies if that is not the case.

I think everyone can agree that it would be an even better car with more power, but until then I guess i'll have to be impatiently patient.:happy0180:

Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 358617)

Anyway, as to styling: The FR-S/BRZ and 370Z look like cousins, so I don't see how you could like one more than the other (FWIW, I'm honestly torn), but whatever...

Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 355585)

Nope. Part of the sport package option, which includes the syncro rev match (the 7AT's have this built in for all trims) and a few humble spoilers that marginally improve its cd, bigger wheels, tires, and bigger brakes.

The stock brakes are okay but not great, and the LSD is often panned as terrible, but its more than sufficient for a daily driver.

The 350 was a numb turd, but the 370 actually handles pretty well. Could stand to be 200 lbs lighter, IMO tho'.

I'm looking forward to seeing what Clarkson says about the FRS on the show (I know he liked it a lot in the mag) because he also liked the 370Z quite a lot (except for the engine noise and ride harshness -- old man). Be interesting to compare and contrast his praise and criticisms for both cars.