Only 20% of BRZs are auto?
 

Cool.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=134733

Lol did I start something? :hide:

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Not sure what it proves though. 99% of the 86s (any flavor) were "spec" cars. In other words, buyers didn't order them that way, they bought what was on the lot.

Likely what happens is Subaru had fewer units, and they were stick. If that's what the buyer wanted, or could live with it, they bought it, or went over to Toyota and bought the AT. It's the reverse on the Toyota side.

More of them were AT. The buyer either accepted, searched for a Toyota MT, or went to Subaru and bought an MT because they had them.

In both cases, the transmission is not driving total sales numbers. Toybaru built what they wanted to build and people bought them as they were built. It would be different if the cars were built to order, then you would know the "real truth" about preferences.

He’s playing on the thread about the 86 being at only a 33% take rate. Hence the title being the written the same way.


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22% that is a 10% difference on the %

Current BRZ count for the UK:


AT = 127
MT = 686


Rare car....

I think you've got one backwards.

33% of 86s are manual
78% of BRZs are manual

Not that it matters or proves anything, it is still an interesting statistic. I like @Dadhawk's theory/explanation though.

100% of BRZs are RWD*.





















*stock

Now, that is interesting. People familiar with the old skool Scoobies always ask if my car is 4WD..


Another interesting thing I read, majority of BMW 1 series drivers don't know that their car is a RWD...

Pretty simple reason actually:

BRZ's the cheapest models are manual, and in 2019 for example the automatic is an option only on the top-end model. So automatic? You'd be paying $3-5k more.

For the 86 you couldn't even get a manual on the cheap models in 2018. So stick-shift was a $3-5k premium surcharge in effect.

Just shows the cheaper models sold better, no surprise there, and Toyota (much like with the Yaris Hatchback in 2007 where you couldn't get a tachometer without getting the upgrade package that forced you to get an automatic) is arbitrarily crazy-pants about what options to offer at what price levels.

IMHO I don't think it's a price thing that is determining whether it's an AT or MT. It's more related to how the car drives.

I guess I worded it poorly, but I think it's more that if folks wanted a manual they'd seek out the BRZ as it was the more affordable manual by almost 20% of the cost of the car. But if they wanted an automatic or didn't care but just wanted the '86' they'd seek out the Toyota.

I think you missed the math. The title says 20%. It is actually 22% so they missed the number by 10% of the %.

OHHH, I just misunderstood which percentage you were referring to

This back and forth is almost as useless as the thread itself. :lol:

LOL yep the useless part is what I was parodying with the correction of the %. Although I think the thread was a parody of the 86 one in the first place. Sort of a parody inception thing going on really.

I still think they are trying to split up the manual driving metal head grease monkeys and the vegan vaping communist automatic drivers into two groups.

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Although I thought vaping was a Subaru thing...

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This makes sense to me, too. If you’re gonna drive all the way to a Subaru dealership and say “forget all these AWD sedans/SUVs, I want the one RWD car you guys have,” you’re probably a pretty hardcore car enthusiast. Also, the last Subaru dealership I was at only had manual pps on the lot, the Toyota dealership only had autos.


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I think it's just because us BRZ owners are better drivers. That master race thing and all :)

Don’t kid yourself. The forum and car culture thing skews perspective. For every hardcore enthusiast that runs out to buy one of these there are probably at least ten people that see it and think “oh that is a nice cheap little car I will get one”. Many of those people will be more concern with colour than anything else. M

Case in point, I have a niece that lives in South Florida. She is completely car clueless but has now owned a 2013 and a 2018 because she saw mine and thought it "was cute".

Fair enough, I keep forgetting that most people are completely clueless about cars. Just the other day an acquaintance asked me if my car was a Toyota Avalon. Then said it looks like a girl car. Yikes.


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But what percentage of BRZs are not wrb-colored? I NEED to know!

Pretty sure it is about .02%. At least around here.

Mine is Hyperblue..

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