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robertplas 05-21-2019 02:16 AM

Turbo and tuner
 
I’m new to the frs club I had an Audi tt before so the tuning of a unturbo is new to me. What turbo is recommended to have over 300-400hp and what self tuner do I use to that I can change the air to fuel ration


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humfrz 05-21-2019 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by robertplas (Post 3219641)
I’m new to the frs club I had an Audi tt before so the tuning of a unturbo is new to me. What turbo is recommended to have over 300-400hp and what self tuner do I use to that I can change the air to fuel ration


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Hello robertplas and welcome to our happy gang - :clap:

Personally, I'm an old NA guy, so I can't help you.

Meanwhile, while you are waiting for someone to come along, you may wish to look over the forum sections that cater to forced induction and tuning.

Have fun modifying your new machine - ;)


humfrz

PetrolioBenzina 05-21-2019 09:53 AM

This thread may have explosive potential.

Jordanwolf 05-21-2019 10:35 AM

I love how the first thing people want to do when they get a twin is add power.

Tcoat 05-21-2019 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordanwolf (Post 3219700)
I love how the first thing people want to do when they get a twin is add power.

And it is always "300 to 400" as if that is some magic number. What is wrong with adding 50 or 60 and having a car that can actually be daily driven without as much risk of blowing up or spinning out?

robertplas 05-21-2019 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3219701)
And it is always "300 to 400" as if that is some magic number. What is wrong with adding 50 or 60 and having a car that can actually be daily driven without as much risk of blowing up or spinning out?



Maybe because 300-400 hp is the safest way to turbo your car without having to do internal engine mods and why just want 50 hp what’s that gunna do give me flutter blow off noise sorry but don’t think


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Tcoat 05-21-2019 10:59 AM

And saying 250 doesn't give any street cred at all!

Jordanwolf 05-21-2019 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by robertplas (Post 3219703)
Maybe because 300-400 hp is the safest way to turbo your car without having to do internal engine mods and why just want 50 hp what’s that gunna do give me flutter blow off noise sorry but don’t think


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Yikes.

Should've bought a car meant for straight line. I hear used Mustangs are pretty cheap.

DarkPira7e 05-21-2019 11:15 AM

Smells like graduation! Maybe people just don't know how forums work? There is an entire sub forum dedicated to turbos. Several kits have their own threads, thousands of posts in each of them.

Do you walk into the store, go to the cashier and say "Which liquid will cause this level of inebriation without a hangover?"

RToyo86 05-21-2019 11:20 AM

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g e 05-21-2019 11:39 AM

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More power? Just get one of these instead

humfrz 05-21-2019 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordanwolf (Post 3219700)
I love how the first thing people want to do when they get a twin is add power.

Ya, I don't know what gets into kids these days - :rolleyes:

:iono:


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humfrz 05-21-2019 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by robertplas (Post 3219703)
Maybe because 300-400 hp is the safest way to turbo your car without having to do internal engine mods and why just want 50 hp what’s that gunna do give me flutter blow off noise sorry but don’t think


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Tough crowd here, today, right robertplas - ;)

I think what we are saying is that you should consider doing a little more scrolling and reading, than typing.- :)

Personally, if I wanted a 300 HP car, I would look into superchargers then contact a local tuner to set me up and tune my car.


humfrz

PetrolioBenzina 05-21-2019 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 3219756)
Tough crowd here, today, right robertplas - ;)

I think what we are saying is that you should consider doing a little more scrolling and reading, than typing.- :)

Personally, if I wanted a 300 HP car, I would look into superchargers then contact a local tuner to set me up and tune my car.

humfrz

Don't bother. OP know's what he needs, 3 to 400 HP for burnouts and light-to-light.

Go nuts, OP!

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soundman98 05-21-2019 09:30 PM

i'm a tree-fiddy kinda guy.

PetrolioBenzina 05-21-2019 11:05 PM

Did OP buy the wrong car?

jflogerzi 05-22-2019 02:25 AM

Do some searching first....

NARFALICIOUS 05-23-2019 11:53 AM

I just saw both a Turbo kit and a Supercharger kit in the For Sale section, all you need now is ecutek

Tcoat 05-23-2019 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by NARFALICIOUS (Post 3220518)
I just saw both a Turbo kit and a Supercharger kit in the For Sale section, all you need now is ecutek

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nos145 05-24-2019 03:28 AM

the twins are shit NA.
if you are saying you don't need more power you are delusional (i would take all the tq down low you are wiling to donate to me).

the engines are also kinda on the shit side (THANKS SUBARU!)

anywho. as per the forums: safe stock power is about 250-300 to the wheels. you might still blow up cuz Subaru engine.

if the car is new, you can go edelbrock route. they give a warranty.


what the old farts are trying to say is that this car is super fun to drive in corners and if you are to get 300-400 whp, then you are throwing all that out of the window. take it to a windy track to see how much you are enjoying it in in its NA form. you might settle on "smaller" updates, such as a tune, headers, different final drive (will make it feel much snappier and fun to drive w.o the MAH BOOST!1!).

with all of that said, its still super fun to drive. 10/10, would do again

bfrank1972 05-24-2019 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by robertplas (Post 3219703)
sorry but don’t think

Yep

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Tcoat 05-24-2019 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by nos145 (Post 3220805)
the twins are shit NA.
if you are saying you don't need more power you are delusional (i would take all the tq down low you are wiling to donate to me).

the engines are also kinda on the shit side (THANKS SUBARU!)

anywho. as per the forums: safe stock power is about 250-300 to the wheels. you might still blow up cuz Subaru engine.

if the car is new, you can go edelbrock route. they give a warranty.


what the old farts are trying to say is that this car is super fun to drive in corners and if you are to get 300-400 whp, then you are throwing all that out of the window. take it to a windy track to see how much you are enjoying it in in its NA form. you might settle on "smaller" updates, such as a tune, headers, different final drive (will make it feel much snappier and fun to drive w.o the MAH BOOST!1!).

with all of that said, its still super fun to drive. 10/10, would do again

It doesn't "need" more power and is just fine for street driving when people actually know how to drive it.
If you want more power another 50 or so at the wheels (around 220 or so) is plenty to kick the ass of most cars in your little street race fantasies. To go 300+ at the wheels is just moronic for a street driven DD in most areas.

86TOYO2k17 05-24-2019 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by robertplas (Post 3219641)
I’m new to the frs club I had an Audi tt before so the tuning of a unturbo is new to me. What turbo is recommended to have over 300-400hp and what self tuner do I use to that I can change the air to fuel ration


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for tuning you will want to look into ecutek.

For turbo a lot of solid kits out there full blown, greddy, avo, etc... most should hit 350whp no problem on E85 at around 14psi. just read the threads for each kit to decide which you prefer.

but even 300whp is pushing the limits of what this engine can handle with out a built block for a reliable DD. Can it but done, sure. Do some people get lucky and run 350+ for years no problem, sure. but generally 300whp is pushing the limit.

I think 300whp with a good 100lbs weight reduction, and some solid tires would satisfy most peoples straight line speed needs, burn up most cars on the street and not ruin daily drive-ability, handling, feel etc..

nos145 05-27-2019 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3220822)
It doesn't "need" more power and is just fine for street driving when people actually know how to drive it.

i disagree with you on that point. personal opinion.

i agree with you on the following point:
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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3219701)
with adding 50 or 60 and having a car that can actually be daily driven without as much risk of blowing up

So OP, the general consensus seems to be 250 WHP should be safe on stock engine.
also get grippy AF tires.

i hope you truly enjoy your twin!


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