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MJones_RB 05-10-2019 05:09 PM
Things About Your FR-S/86 You've Grown Used To
 
I've had my FR-S for about 5 years now, and over that period of time I have, sort of, grown used to some of the quirks of my car. These include (not in any particular order):

• Crickets - I really don't hear them anymore, unless I concentrate or my passenger points them out. It's just part of the charm.

• 2nd gear clunk (manual) - it may be just a trait of a 6-speed transmission (my friend's S2000 had the same issue) but, when it's cold, going into 2nd gear used to be unnerving. Now I just expect it. I might try to change the fluid for Pentosin but it's not a priority.

• Rattles, shakes, squeaks, etc. - My car used to be dead quiet inside when driving, even over bumps. Now there's a few minor squeaks from the a-pillars, or rattles from the shifter, stuff like that. No biggie. Again, charm.

• Cheap interior / floor mats - My driver's side floor mat already has a hole worn thru it, from very little use. I mean, it's thin as cardboard so what should I expect? I hate buying a whole new set just to replace the one. Meh...

• Lack of power - most of my driving is commuting, and here in Los Angeles that translates to anywhere from 5-25 mph on average during "rush" hour. When I actually DO get to use my big pedal, it's just from red light to red light. Does my FR-S lack power? I would never notice myself.

• Back seats - my car has back seats? Oh yeah, that's where the teddy bears are. Huh. Weird. Never noticed.

• Appreciation - people still compliment my car, kids mostly. It's nice to hear now and then. I mean, it's still a great looking car...

Anything I missed?

p1l0t 05-10-2019 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by MJones_RB (Post 3216286)
I've had my FR-S for about 5 years now, and over that period of time I have, sort of, grown used to some of the quirks of my car. These include (not in any particular order):



• Crickets - I really don't hear them anymore, unless I concentrate or my passenger points them out. It's just part of the charm.



• 2nd gear clunk (manual) - it may be just a trait of a 6-speed transmission (my friend's S2000 had the same issue) but, when it's cold, going into 2nd gear used to be unnerving. Now I just expect it. I might try to change the fluid for Pentosin but it's not a priority.



• Rattles, shakes, squeaks, etc. - My car used to be dead quiet inside when driving, even over bumps. Now there's a few minor squeaks from the a-pillars, or rattles from the shifter, stuff like that. No biggie. Again, charm.



• Cheap interior / floor mats - My driver's side floor mat already has a hole worn thru it, from very little use. I mean, it's thin as cardboard so what should I expect? I hate buying a whole new set just to replace the one. Meh...



• Lack of power - most of my driving is commuting, and here in Los Angeles that translates to anywhere from 5-25 mph on average during "rush" hour. When I actually DO get to use my big pedal, it's just from red light to red light. Does my FR-S lack power? I would never notice myself.



• Back seats - my car has back seats? Oh yeah, that's where the teddy bears are. Huh. Weird. Never noticed.



• Appreciation - people still compliment my car, kids mostly. It's nice to hear now and then. I mean, it's still a great looking car...



Anything I missed?
Haha that 2nd gear thing is normal... :phew:

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YamahaR86 05-10-2019 05:25 PM
How low it is stock. Every time I drive someone and they get out they're like god damn your car is low.


I'm not even lowered yet, have some TRD Springs on the way but they only drop 1''.


Though I am a bit surprised when I get on my bike and i'm higher up than in the car :lol:

p1l0t 05-10-2019 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by YamahaR86 (Post 3216296)
How low it is stock. Every time I drive someone and they get out they're like god damn your car is low.


I'm not even lowered yet, have some TRD Springs on the way but they only drop 1''.


Though I am a bit surprised when I get on my bike and i'm higher up than in the car [emoji38]
5" most cars are like 6 or 7

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TooSlow 05-10-2019 05:49 PM
Gotten used to literally having to slam my trunk closed. Feels like I'm going to break it every time with the force needed to close the thing.

Jordanwolf 05-10-2019 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by MJones_RB (Post 3216286)
• Crickets - I really don't hear them anymore, unless I concentrate or my passenger points them out. It's just part of the charm.

• Rattles, shakes, squeaks, etc. - My car used to be dead quiet inside when driving, even over bumps. Now there's a few minor squeaks from the a-pillars, or rattles from the shifter, stuff like that. No biggie. Again, charm.

• Appreciation - people still compliment my car, kids mostly. It's nice to hear now and then. I mean, it's still a great looking car...
Maybe only on the 17+, but running 94 Petro Canada, which has ethanol in it, the crickets have actually stopped after some time. I mean ACTUALLY stopped. I was previously using Shell which is the only option for no ethanol in my area, decided to use 94 Petro to test it out, crickets slowly went away...... I've even tested it going back and forth, crickets come back after running shell then swapping to 94 Petro again, but only for a little while, maybe a week or so.

Fix one rattle, and another rattle will appear.

Kids LOVE my car.. Absolutely adore my car. Bunch of kids that play near my house always wave at me; had some kids watching me wash my car once as if a TV show. The even funnier thing is these kids don't discriminate cars based on their price, like adults would. Next door sits a F-150 Raptor, Mustang GT (with some mods), Lexus IS-300, Acura TLX(pretty sure A-spec) and a C7 Vette Sting Ray, all of which are brand new or very recent MY.

DandoX 05-10-2019 06:02 PM
  • The option to display what gear Im in for a manual transmission
  • Shift light is awesome
  • how easy and casual it is to spin some tires leaving a stop light
  • Also how casual it is to break the tail out in a turn
  • the driving position its easy to take for granted after a while
  • how easy it is to change the oil
  • pillar less doors
  • trunk space for this size sports car

p1l0t 05-10-2019 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by DandoX (Post 3216326)
  • The option to display what gear Im in for a manual transmission
  • Shift light is awesome
  • how easy and casual it is to spin some tires leaving a stop light
  • Also how casual it is to break the tail out in a turn
  • the driving position its easy to take for granted after a while
  • how easy it is to change the oil
  • pillar less doors
  • trunk space for this size sports car
I always forget how to turn that gear display back on after the power gets disconnected.

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DandoX 05-10-2019 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by p1l0t (Post 3216327)
I always forget how to turn that gear display back on after the power gets disconnected.

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Turn ignition to auxiliary mode then you hit the odo button I think until you see Go-off or something like that. Toggle that to on.

bkharmony 05-10-2019 06:07 PM
I'll never get used to the lack of power, and I'm going to complain about it forever.

p1l0t 05-10-2019 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by DandoX (Post 3216329)
Turn ignition to auxiliary mode then you hit the odo button I think until you see Go-off or something like that. Toggle that to on.
I don't have an ignition lol. (Push start Hyperblue BRZ because I'm extra AF) I guess just don't press the clutch when I hit the on button?

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HKz 05-10-2019 06:21 PM
while my 2013 had a lot more quirks, most notably a rattle coming from the A pillar, the only thing I've had to learn to live with for my 2016 is the common 2nd gear shift rattle above 5 K RPMs though admittedly with the TRD exhaust I have to really listen for it, otherwise it usually gets drowned out. Besides that, think I've finally grown used to the seatbelt chime for when I have my one particular friend who doesn't buckle up right away... The other things like being in a low car, 2+2 problems, etc I had already experienced when I had a 240SX.

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Originally Posted by p1l0t (Post 3216331)
I don't have an ignition lol. (Push start Hyperblue BRZ because I'm extra AF) I guess just don't press the clutch when I hit the on button?

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yes

DandoX 05-10-2019 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by p1l0t (Post 3216331)
I don't have an ignition lol. (Push start Hyperblue BRZ because I'm extra AF) I guess just don't press the clutch when I hit the on button?

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Yeah not sure how you get into aux power mode with push start, probably just brake or clutch when pushing the button. Once your in aux mode should be easy. Also in case Im forgetting something about how do it is also buried somewhere in the manual. Sure is a handy feature all cars that allow you to manually switch gears should have.

p1l0t 05-10-2019 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by DandoX (Post 3216342)
Yeah not sure how you get into aux power mode with push start, probably just brake or clutch when pushing the button. Once your in aux mode should be easy. Also in case Im forgetting something about how do it is also buried somewhere in the manual. Sure is a handy feature all cars that allow you to manually switch gears should have.
I just wish it would be on even when you're not on the gas pedal.

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Audio 05-10-2019 07:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DandoX (Post 3216326)
  • The option to display what gear Im in for a manual transmission
  • Shift light is awesome
  • how easy and casual it is to spin some tires leaving a stop light
  • Also how casual it is to break the tail out in a turn
  • the driving position its easy to take for granted after a while
  • how easy it is to change the oil
  • pillar less doors
  • trunk space for this size sports car
How easy it is to change the spark Plugs. :bonk:

DandoX 05-10-2019 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by p1l0t (Post 3216358)
I just wish it would be on even when you're not on the gas pedal.

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In mine which is a 6 speed its on all the time unless you put in the clutch, even if I totally let off the gas. Is yours auto or maybe they changed something with how it works?

DandoX 05-10-2019 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Audio (Post 3216361)
How easy it is to change the spark Plugs. :bonk:

I still haven't gotten used to that lol. At least its every 60k.

p1l0t 05-10-2019 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by DandoX (Post 3216366)
I still haven't gotten used to that lol. At least its every 60k.
It's free with the valve spring recall all you have to do is buy the plugs no labor. :happyanim: Worked for my Fiancee's 2013 Impreza got her a nice new oil filter and accesory belt tok ahahaha. I don't think my 2016 is getting that recall though.

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p1l0t 05-10-2019 07:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DandoX (Post 3216364)
In mine which is a 6 speed its on all the time unless you put in the clutch, even if I totally let off the gas. Is yours auto or maybe they changed something with how it works?
Mine is 6 speed but maybe it's all computer now (rpm vs speed to get the ratio) instead an actual sensor?

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DandoX 05-10-2019 07:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by p1l0t (Post 3216369)
It's free with the valve spring recall all you have to do is buy the plugs no labor. :happyanim: Worked for my Fiancee's 2013 Impreza got her a nice new oil filter and accessory belt tok ahahaha. I don't think my 2016 is getting that recall though.

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My plugs where taken care of at the 60k service, and I did my J02 recall at 80k. Dealer offered to do plugs if I wanted to just pay for the part but I declined since its been 20k since I last got new plugs. :( So at 120k is the next plug change for me. If Ca didn't force me to do the recall right away I would have sat on it until 120k.

This weekend is a brake fluid flush and possibly new pads and rotors depending on how worn things are.

DandoX 05-10-2019 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by p1l0t (Post 3216370)
Mine is 6 speed but maybe it's all computer now (rpm vs speed to get the ratio) instead an actual sensor?

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Strange they would change how that works. I'll double check but I'm almost positive that my gear indicator shows the gear until the car is in neutral from the clutch or stick. I can't get why you wouldn't see the gear when the throttle is not pressed, not like your no longer in gear just because your not giving throttle.

So if your going down a steep hill and your in a lower gear for engine braking and just using the brake pedal, it won't show what gear your in in the display?

p1l0t 05-10-2019 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by DandoX (Post 3216372)
My plugs where taken care of at the 60k service, and I did my J02 recall at 80k. Dealer offered to do plugs if I wanted to just pay for the part but I declined since its been 20k since I last got new plugs. :( So at 120k is the next plug change for me. If Ca didn't force me to do the recall right away I would have sat on it until 120k.

This weekend is a brake fluid flush and possibly new pads and rotors depending on how worn things are.
California FORCED you? Communist bastards.

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MuseChaser 05-10-2019 08:14 PM
1. Those weird gymnastic moves you have to do getting in and out of the car. Automatic, easy, and fast for me after living with the car for years, and a lot of fun to watch passengers do for the first couple times.


2. Rattles, like everyone else has said.


3. Seating position.. just about perfect, and forget how perfect it is until I drive something else.


HOWEVER... all of those things are fading rapidly because I haven't had my @#$@#4 car for @#$@#$@#???!!! two months and counting.

86MLR 05-10-2019 08:23 PM
Whilst the FA20 plugs are trickier to change than a IL4 they really aren't that hard if you have basic spanner spinning skills and some jack stands.

It takes me longer to wash my car than change/inspect the plugs.

I love the look of my car, it looks like a 80's-90's Jap car from some angles, and a modern car from other angles.



It's not trying to hard to be sporty, it doesn't need to, it is a light, 4 cyl, RWD manual coupe, true sports car DNA.

As for the power, it has a extremely good power to weight ratio, considering it's a cheap mass produced car. If you want more power 200hp atw is only some parts and a good tune away.

Its just like a S chassis, only not old.

If you want more power then open up your wallet, just like you do for every other make and model of car that people buy.

People don't realize how lucky they are to have the twins, always complaining that they want more, usually for less money.

Think about this for a second, what other new lightweight 4 cyl manual coupe would you buy for the cost of a twin if they axed the twins tomorrow?

All I can think of is the MX5 RF, which is what I would buy if there were no twins available.

Opinions may vary

DandoX 05-10-2019 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by p1l0t (Post 3216375)
California FORCED you? Communist bastards.

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They forced me, refuse to renew my registration if the recall is not performed. In Ca it is mandatory because it involves parts related to the emission system. More like bureaucratic bastards. Ca has some seriously shitty vehicle laws.

HKz 05-10-2019 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by p1l0t (Post 3216370)
Mine is 6 speed but maybe it's all computer now (rpm vs speed to get the ratio) instead an actual sensor?

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hmm think you're mistaken..I have a 2016 as well and like DandoX pointed out, it always shows the gear you're in unless you have the clutch pressed in..

DandoX 05-10-2019 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by 86MLR (Post 3216381)
All I can think of is the MX5 RF, which is what I would buy if there were no twins available.
The normal mx5 club and RF are really the only other alternatives in that price bracket but the 86 is still notably cheaper.

MX5 RF is more expensive, starting above 34k. Where a new 86 is below 28k. Both are with zero options. Also hard not to mention on top of the additional money sacrifice to own a mx5 you get the luxury of having a car that has next to zero practicality for anything except transporting a driver 1 passenger and maybe 2 small backpacks if you really cram.

If you ever have put 4 full size wheels in the back of a twin you can totally appreciate the cargo space which is really good for a small cheap sports car.

p1l0t 05-10-2019 09:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by HKz (Post 3216385)
hmm think you're mistaken..I have a 2016 as well and like DandoX pointed out, it always shows the gear you're in unless you have the clutch pressed in..
Yeah exactly.

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86MLR 05-10-2019 09:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DandoX (Post 3216387)
The normal mx5 club and RF are really the only other alternatives in that price bracket but the 86 is still notably cheaper.

MX5 RF is more expensive, starting above 34k. Where a new 86 is below 28k. Both are with zero options. Also hard not to mention on top of the additional money sacrifice to own a mx5 you get the luxury of having a car that has next to zero practicality for anything except transporting a driver 1 passenger and maybe 2 small backpacks if you really cram.

If you ever have put 4 full size wheels in the back of a twin you can totally appreciate the cargo space which is really good for a small cheap sports car.
I had a NB MX5, space was a joke, 2 small bags was it.

My 86 can fit a huge amount if stuff, 3 good sized bags in the boot and the same in the back seat.

I've had 2 adults and 2 kids plus all the beach and snorkeling gear required for 4 in my 86.

Plus I also have a full sized 17 x 7.5 spare in the boot.

Sapphireho 05-10-2019 09:17 PM
Chicks hitting on me.

p1l0t 05-10-2019 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Sapphireho (Post 3216405)
Chicks hitting on me.
They don't know it only LOOKS fast hahaha

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Sapphireho 05-10-2019 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by p1l0t (Post 3216407)
They don't know it only LOOKS fast hahaha

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Hey, I have some go fast bolt ons!

humfrz 05-10-2019 09:24 PM
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Kids LOVE my car.. Absolutely adore my car. Bunch of kids that play near my house always wave at me; had some kids watching me wash my car once as if a TV show. .
I got the picture - :thumbsup:

:D


humfrz

humfrz 05-10-2019 09:28 PM
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Chicks hitting on me.
Riiiiiiighttttt - hitting on YOU ?? - :iono:


humfrz

ermax 05-10-2019 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by TooSlow (Post 3216321)
Gotten used to literally having to slam my trunk closed. Feels like I'm going to break it every time with the force needed to close the thing.


That is odd. Mine requires zero force. Like it’s impossible to lower the lid soft enough for it to not latch. The doors are the same way.

ermax 05-10-2019 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by p1l0t (Post 3216370)
Mine is 6 speed but maybe it's all computer now (rpm vs speed to get the ratio) instead an actual sensor?

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Correct. It’s all math (no sensor). If the clutch is in it knows it’s impossible to know for sure what gear it’s in so the display turns off.

p1l0t 05-10-2019 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Sapphireho (Post 3216408)
Hey, I have some go fast bolt ons!
I still kick ass just by out-maneuvering.

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ermax 05-10-2019 09:51 PM
My only complaint with this car is the shit engine sound, dip and the doors that will not stay open. I switched to E85 which makes the dip tolerable. So now it’s just the shit engine sound and doors slamming on my legs. It’s still hands down the funnest car I’ve ever driven. I’ve driven a lot of cars too. For example a 1300whp Ford GT (no not the Mustang GT).

humfrz 05-10-2019 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by ermax (Post 3216416)
That is odd. Mine requires zero force. Like it’s impossible to lower the lid soft enough for it to not latch. The doors are the same way.
Same here (2013 FR-S).

@TooSlow , I think your latch is messed up - :iono:


humfrz

Sapphireho 05-10-2019 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by p1l0t (Post 3216419)
I still kick ass just by out-maneuvering.

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Me too, I just do it faster.


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