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ocbrz66 04-02-2019 01:35 PM

Help pricing my BRZ
 
I'm looking to sell my 2015 BRZ and I was hoping to get some advice on what a reasonable price would be. It's difficult to price project cars but I'm hoping to get a few perspectives from the people here.

Photos are here : https://imgur.com/a/C8Bb3Wx

The car makes 440HP / 408TQ to the wheels on e85.

---- Engine ----
2.0l FA20 engine 10.5:1 compression ratio
IHI VF36 twin-scroll turbo
Crawford Performance Exhaust Manifold w/ Iconel Heat Wrap
Crawford Performance Turbo Downpipe
Custom A1 Auto 3”Exhaust
Crawford Performance Intercooler & Piping
Crawford Performance I-Beam Rods
Crawford Performance spec JE Forged Pistons
OEM Forged Crank
Visconti / Continental Flex Fuel Sensor
Crawford Performance Air Oil Separator
EcuTek Programming Tuned By Church Performance
Crawford Performance Cooling Package

---- Transmission / Drivetrain ----
Mazworx Nissan CD009 Transmission Swap
Precision Shaft Technologies Carbon Fiber Driveshaft
Tilton Hydraulic Release Bearing
Competition Clutch Twin Disc Clutch with Single Mass Flywheel
Driveshaft Shop 600HP Level 2 Axles

---- Wheel / Tires / Brakes / Suspension ----
2008-2012 STI Disc Brake Conversion
KW V3 Coilover Kit
Michelin Pilot Sport 4s 265/35/R18 Tires (Brand New)
Enkei RS05RR 18x9.5+43 Wheels

Tcoat 04-02-2019 01:38 PM

About a $1,000 more than a stock one in your area.

Sapphireho 04-02-2019 01:40 PM

In California, not much. You will not even be able to smog it for legal sale.

Sasquachulator 04-02-2019 01:48 PM

mods don't add much (if at all) to the value of a car.

You mighty get a couple thousand over average, but you are not recouping the majority of the costs put into that car.

maslin 04-02-2019 01:57 PM

KBB has it at $15-18k as a stock BRZ with "premium" wheels.

Probably closer to that high mark of $18k. If the mods and news of engine failures don't scare everyone away.

It's like selling an early 2000's 996. Too many horror stories out there at this point.

Tcoat 04-02-2019 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by maslin (Post 3202905)
KBB has it at $15-18k as a stock BRZ with "premium" wheels.

Probably closer to that high mark of $18k. If the mods and news of engine failures don't scare everyone away.

It's like selling an early 2000's 996. Too many horror stories out there at this point.

It is a 15 so the recall does not impact it but many will not understand that simple point and worry anyway.
It is funny to watch all the guys with really heavy mods worry about the "dumb techs" screwing up their engine during a repair.

maslin 04-02-2019 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3202918)
It is a 15 so the recall does not impact it but many will not understand that simple point and worry anyway.
It is funny to watch all the guys with really heavy mods worry about the "dumb techs" screwing up their engine during a repair.

Exactly. 99% of people looking for a BRZ don't want that. 99% have no idea what the recall even is. Of that 1% who do know, the majority will assume it applies to all BRZs.

Look at 996's, the '99 is the most reliable, but has cable frunk and trunk releases (eww!) and ugly headlights. They are always cheaper than a 2000 or 2001, and considerably cheaper than any '02+, even with a time bomb engine.

Buying a modded car is a gamble. You know for a fact it's been run hard, and have absolutely no idea how hard, or how it's been taken care of.

Pushing $20k for a 2015 model years with ??? left before something, anything, fails. You can find a new '18 for $25k I bet. The vast majority of people who buy cars aren't like us.


Edit: ocbrz66, The car is awesome and looks to be in excellent shape. If I were in the market for a nicely built BRZ it would be on the short list for sure. Selling modded cars sucks, been there, lost mega $$ every time.

ocbrz66 04-02-2019 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Sapphireho (Post 3202892)
In California, not much. You will not even be able to smog it for legal sale.

The car is titled in Montana, no CA smog to deal with thank goodness.


Thank you for everyone who has responded. I think this helps me a lot.

Sapphireho 04-02-2019 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ocbrz66 (Post 3202954)
The car is titled in Montana, no CA smog to deal with thank goodness.



Your location threw me off.

maslin 04-02-2019 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ocbrz66 (Post 3202954)
The car is titled in Montana

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Originally Posted by Sapphireho (Post 3202958)
Your location threw me off.

I have a feeling his location is correct. Ever noticed how many Ferraris and Bugattis are "from" Montana?

Tcoat 04-02-2019 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ocbrz66 (Post 3202954)
The car is titled in Montana, no CA smog to deal with thank goodness.


Thank you for everyone who has responded. I think this helps me a lot.

The best bet to recoup some of your money is to strip off the parts and sell them separately. This of course is a royal pain in the butt but will recover far more than selling the car as a whole package. The only other hope is that somebody comes along that wanted exactly that set up and hope they will pay a bit more. Could make for a long time before selling it though.

Tcoat 04-02-2019 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by maslin (Post 3202962)
I have a feeling his location is correct. Ever noticed how many Ferraris and Bugattis are "from" Montana?

Lot of money in sheep herding!


Is that poor dude below called a "sheepboy" or "lambboy"?


https://i.ytimg.com/vi/hwl6jYasC5M/maxresdefault.jpg

Sapphireho 04-02-2019 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3202965)
Lot of money is sheep herding!


Is that poor dude below called a "sheepboy" or "lambboy"?


https://i.ytimg.com/vi/hwl6jYasC5M/maxresdefault.jpg


Ruminantboy?

Interlocker 04-02-2019 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3202890)
About a $1,000 more than a stock one in your area.

And a lot of patience to find the buyer who just happens to want all the specific parts you already have.

As mentioned, if you're looking to recoup any money on the aftermarket parts, you'll do much better (time permitting) to part it out and put it all back to stock.

maslin 04-02-2019 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3202965)
Lot of money is sheep herding!


Is that poor dude below called a "sheepboy" or "lambboy"?


https://i.ytimg.com/vi/hwl6jYasC5M/maxresdefault.jpg


:laughabove::laughabove:

Spent the last 7 years in Montana, surprisingly few sheep.

Lots of hyper cars though, damn things are everywhere out on the farm.






Funny story... BC drove his Veyron on Goldrush, saw a windmill out on a farm in no-where Montana. Trespassed up to said windmill to get a picture with his Veyron. Bottomed out the Bug, blew out both radiators and had to have it towed back to Cali. I believe he said the radiators were $40k a piece, plus whatever that tow bill was :eyebulge:

ocbrz66 04-02-2019 03:46 PM

Parting out will be tricky as the engine is lowered compression so its not as simple as pulling the turbo off a stock long block. The factory transmission mounts are also modified so returning to a stock trans would be an issue.

I think I'd be out more time and money pursuing returning it to stock vs taking a haircut on the parts sold on the car. If it was on a stock trans and stock compression I'd certainly consider it. Parts for these things are dirt cheap that's for sure.

Tcoat 04-02-2019 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ocbrz66 (Post 3202979)
Parting out will be tricky as the engine is lowered compression so its not as simple as pulling the turbo off a stock long block. The factory transmission mounts are also modified so returning to a stock trans would be an issue.

I think I'd be out more time and money pursuing returning it to stock vs taking a haircut on the parts sold on the car. If it was on a stock trans and stock compression I'd certainly consider it. Parts for these things are dirt cheap that's for sure.

Yep. Pain in the butt. Could probably make some nice cash on the engine and tranny separately but the time to swap and rework mounts would make it a wash.

Dadillac 04-02-2019 08:13 PM

Just gonna put this here
https://www.subaruofsiouxfalls.com/u...9065335e4b.htm


Nevermind. Saw your car too



Don

Tcoat 04-02-2019 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Dadillac (Post 3203088)
Just gonna put this here
https://www.subaruofsiouxfalls.com/u...9065335e4b.htm


Nevermind. Saw your car too



Don

If you took that same car into their dealership and said "I want $30K trade in value" they would laugh you out of the place.

mav1178 04-02-2019 09:29 PM

The fastest way to get rid of this car is to trade your engine setup + cash for someone else's engine/transmission, part out the bolt-on parts, and then sell the car close to stock.

I parted out my BRZ and got about $9000 worth of parts sold and got rid of the car in (mostly) stock form for about $1500 less than what I could've traded it in to Carmax for.

mav1178 04-03-2019 01:37 PM

Forgot to mention, smog is an issue if you are trying to sell it anywhere outside of your original state.

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Originally Posted by ocbrz66 (Post 3202954)
The car is titled in Montana, no CA smog to deal with thank goodness.

If indeed you are a resident of Montana, there's no smog for title transfer.
If you live in Southern California and are trying to sell an out of state vehicle in California, you pass the responsibility of smog check for title transfer to the buyer.

At the end of the day, there's CA title transfer requirements (or any title transfer smog in any state that requires it), so this is important if you are serious about selling the car to prospective buyers. Makes it an easier sell if the buyer doesn't have to jump through hoops like fake companies in no-smog states to mod their cars.

-alex


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