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Hen3ry 04-01-2019 10:30 PM

wheel choices
 
Its about time to swap to summer tires and I was thinking about getting some new wheels to go with it. I'm on winter tires on oem wheels right now. Currently it's my DD, no tracking, stock power/suspension, just enjoying it on the streets. While I'm not racing or anything, I would like to avoid heavy wheels that would make the car slower than it already is.

I'd like to stick to wheel brands with a good reputation, no replicas. I'm not looking to spend Volk levels of money, but I'm willing to pay for better quality.

With that said, some of the choices I've narrowed down to are:
1.) BBS RF
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...achmentid=8191
Pro - forged, super light, seems like an oem fit.
Con - styling somewhat bland in 17" size, 18" is super expensive.

2.) Titan-7 TS5
http://www.evasivemotorsports.com/mm...ts5_image2.jpg
Pro - forged, super stylish, light
Con - only comes in 18x9.5, maybe too wide for stock power?, probably would have to buy coils to fit

3.) RPF1
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7454/...de917565_o.jpg
Pro - tried and true
Con - only looks good (imho) with flat face on 9-9.5" width (and same issues with ts5), too commonplace


Plan B - put summer tires on oem wheels, buy coilovers, save up for turbo kit and get wheels later
Plan C - buy a Cayman

Any thoughts or other wheel recommendations appreciated.

StraightOuttaCanadaEh 04-01-2019 10:39 PM

I like the Enkei RS05RR but they're expensive

https://i.postimg.cc/dV6YbCKf/image.jpg

I also considered getting the Enkei NT03+M just cause they're so unique and decently priced

https://i.postimg.cc/SKKhkKSx/image.jpg

But I will be getting the Enkei Raijin 18x9.5. Very good price and look amazing on our platform. I run the 18x8 in the winter.

https://i.postimg.cc/rpYLmLsC/image.jpg

soundman98 04-02-2019 12:17 AM

the titan 7 is already my pick, and on my future mod list, the close running was the bbs sr, but it had to be in 19, otherwise the spokes of the design in 17 or 18 look odd.

Jordanwolf 04-02-2019 12:48 AM

Hard pass on the RPF1. Not a very pretty wheel and so many people have it.

Try looking at these:

https://konigwheels.com/
http://www.720form.com/

Mr.ac 04-02-2019 02:20 AM

BBS obviously.

fatoni 04-02-2019 08:10 AM

I think the titan 7 comes in 17*9. I went with tc105x because they are probably durable enough while still being oddly light and cheap enough. All while not being super played out.

Dadillac 04-02-2019 07:49 PM

Here is what you really need
https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=130968


Don

Impureclient 04-02-2019 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Dadillac (Post 3203080)

I don't know, dude. If you actually get $1200 for that I will eat my hat and anybody else that has a hat that wants me to eat it.

Spuds 04-02-2019 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordanwolf (Post 3202723)
Hard pass on the RPF1. Not a very pretty wheel and so many people have it.

Try looking at these:

https://konigwheels.com/
http://www.720form.com/

Have you considered that the reason so many people have RPF1s is because it's the best solution to the "I need light wheels for summer tires without spending a lot" problem?

Also, I like how they look. Very functional, says I enjoy driving my car more than looking at it. Wait, that may be countering my point... :iono:

Varelco 04-03-2019 04:35 AM

Hen3ry welcome to the frustrating world of picking wheels for your FRS.

You like aggressive styles which only come in big widths (9.5j) but you don't want to stick on that much rubber giving the car too much grip. There is always the option to stretch narrow tyres but not everyone is into that (I used to but not anymore). What is the max size you want to go? (mainly in terms of width)


Dadillac, if you look at the wheels that people tend to fit to this chassis you will see that they don't really reassemble the style of wheel you are selling, no disrespect but they are pretty hideous. Someone will buy them for sure but it may take a little time.

fatoni 04-03-2019 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Spuds (Post 3203155)
Have you considered that the reason so many people have RPF1s is because it's the best solution to the "I need light wheels for summer tires without spending a lot" problem?

Also, I like how they look. Very functional, says I enjoy driving my car more than looking at it. Wait, that may be countering my point... :iono:

Aren't wheels more of a "light, cheap, durable. Pick two" Situation? I mean, there has got to be a reason that there are no other sub $1000 wheel under 16 lbs 17*9.

churchx 04-03-2019 07:48 AM

fatoni: but none of those three for rpf1 are extremes either, eg. forged wheels are usually even lighter and possibly stronger, OE or rally wheels are stronger, there are many cheaper wheels then rpf1.
Think of rpf1 as wheels with chosen relatively good overall compromise. Not lightest, not cheapest, not strongest. But overall what those are - made them such popular choice. Kosei wheels are even lighter and cheaper .. but too easy to bend. Forged wheels are lighter and as strong, but cost 2-3x what rpf1 do.

Jordanwolf 04-03-2019 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Spuds (Post 3203155)
Have you considered that the reason so many people have RPF1s is because it's the best solution to the "I need light wheels for summer tires without spending a lot" problem?

Also, I like how they look. Very functional, says I enjoy driving my car more than looking at it. Wait, that may be countering my point... :iono:

720 Form in equivalent size is lighter, cheaper and better looking(subjective) than the RPF1's. Similar for Konig as they have their new line of flow formed wheels which are competitive in price, weight and look better than RPF1's.

RPF1's are definitely not the best solution. Perhaps in the past, but not now.

This is kind of like saying that everyone has Nike's because they are the best solution to shoes, but that certainly isn't true.

strat61caster 04-03-2019 12:26 PM

6UL 17x8
https://949racing.com/17x8-6UL-5Lug.aspx

Pick up a common 225 summer tire and have fun.

I love my 17x9 RPF1's, but I know a lot of people want to be 'different'
Skip the turbo kit and just buy the Cayman


Edit: I like Motegi's too, I think they have one or two 17x8's that'll work.

Tcoat 04-03-2019 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Varelco (Post 3203211)

Dadillac, if you look at the wheels that people tend to fit to this chassis you will see that they don't really reassemble the style of wheel you are selling, no disrespect but they are pretty hideous. Someone will buy them for sure but it may take a little time.

Yep. I would be in a hurry to sell them as well. Can't say that I ever noticed just how bad they were before but damn....

xdavidx 04-03-2019 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3203313)
Yep. I would be in a hurry to sell them as well. Can't say that I ever noticed just how bad they were before but damn....


I know this is veering us further off topic, but I have to 3rd this sentiment.


I saw the classified post for these wheels at a firm $1,200 and didn't want to blow it up there, but I can't see anyone wanting to do anything with these other than sell them. Just because they come on a TRD edition, doesn't make them desirable. The worst looking stock wheel offered yet on these cars and without any performance improvement. Even giving these away may be hard.


I'd suggest 'parting out' the tires :)

Tcoat 04-03-2019 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by xdavidx (Post 3203357)
I know this is veering us further off topic, but I have to 3rd this sentiment.


I saw the classified post for these wheels at a firm $1,200 and didn't want to blow it up there, but I can't see anyone wanting to do anything with these other than sell them. Just because they come on a TRD edition, doesn't make them desirable. The worst looking stock wheel offered yet on these cars and without any performance improvement. Even giving these away may be hard.


I'd suggest 'parting out' the tires :)

Still on topic since the title is "choices". There are a bazillion "what wheels are best" threads anyway.


They fit in with the latest stock wheel pattern which I really do not like. The wife's 17 Impreza has these monstrosities:


https://s.aolcdn.com/hss/storage/mid...ru-impreza.jpg

xdavidx 04-03-2019 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3203359)
Still on topic since the title is "choices". There are a bazillion "what wheels are best" threads anyway.


They fit in with the latest stock wheel pattern which I really do not like. The wife's 17 Impreza has these monstrosities:


I have also been trying to find / decide on stock wheel replacements as I entirely agree with what you are saying there about the latest stock wheels. This whole machined front / black gloss back patterned thing is horrible and bugs me way more than it should. It's like they came up with a new manufacturing process that's cheaper and they are trying to pass it off as the hot new look, but it just looks cheap.

Shark_Bait88 04-03-2019 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by xdavidx (Post 3203357)
I know this is veering us further off topic, but I have to 3rd this sentiment.


I saw the classified post for these wheels at a firm $1,200 and didn't want to blow it up there, but I can't see anyone wanting to do anything with these other than sell them. Just because they come on a TRD edition, doesn't make them desirable. The worst looking stock wheel offered yet on these cars and without any performance improvement. Even giving these away may be hard.


I'd suggest 'parting out' the tires :)

Agreed with this. $1,200 is a fair price (though not the screaming deal that you seem to think it is), but those aren't going to be highly desirable wheels.

For OEM options the 17" TRD forged wheels are far more desirable IMO. I did get a screaming deal on a set, picking up 5 of them with OEM tires and TPMS for $650. Normally a used set with tires/TPMS would sell around $900-1,000ish.

You can likely get $1,200 for them, but finding the right buyer (especially restricted to local) is quite likely going to take awhile.

Dadillac 04-03-2019 07:39 PM

Hey I was just throwing it out there. If you price the tires and sensors new you end up getting the wheels for free. I am in no hurry to sell them. If they don't sell that is fine too. I will just hold onto them until I sell the car and put them back on. Not gonna take less than $1,200.00 as that is actually a steal it price.



Don

86MLR 04-03-2019 08:50 PM

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Yeap, cheap and good :burnrubber:

Hen3ry 04-05-2019 12:13 AM

Thanks for all the input (and interesting discussion).

As good as they look, I decided against getting super aggressive looking wide wheels. I'm leaning towards the bbs rf. i think 7.5-8" width and 225 tire sounds like the optimum size.
I'll prob stick with an clean understated/oem+ kind of look for now.

Plus I just bought some trd springs (40% off today!) so coilovers are out for now.

But appreciate the suggestions.

Hen3ry 04-13-2019 04:38 PM

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Just an update: ended up with the bbs rf wrapped in Michelin ps4s 225/45/17.
Pretty happy with how they look.
Still on stock suspension but that's next on the list.

86MLR 04-13-2019 08:55 PM

Nice choice looks good.

xdavidx 04-14-2019 12:04 AM

I think these are a clear winner for best looking aftermarket rim on stock suspension. The only ones I've ever seen that don't look weird without lowering. Maybe just get some sway bars to stiffen things up and leave it at stock ride height?



When you lower it, you will get some negative camber and they will sink in more and might not look as good. I think these have the same offset as stock and my stock wheels definitely looked too sunk in after I put on the trd springs. Just put the 17" trd wheels on with -5 offset +0.5" width and they look more appropriate.


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