No Issue After J02 Recall: Registry Thread
 

Just wanted to create a thread to see how many people have had their recalls completed and have not seen any issues after 500 miles or 800km. Seems only fair to get both sides of the story!



Vehicle Mileage:
Vehicle Make:
Miles After Recall Performed:
Other work completed with recall:

Vehicle Mileage:51,673

Vehicle Make:FRS
Miles After Recall Performed: 1300
Other work completed with recall: Drive belt + spark plugs


Didn't do break in period. Just drove it like how I normally do.

Vehicle Milage: 63,432

Vehicle Make: FRS
Miles After Recall: 1,8xx
Other work completed with recall: None

200 miles after, Only issue I had, they left a EVAP Solenoid unplugged. Wasn’t a big issue at all, I just connected it and cleared codes. Nothing since then. Crossing my fingers as I will be going supercharged within the next 2 months.

These cars don't have timing belts, they have timing chains, which shouldn't go bad for the life of the engine.




I like this thread. I'll be picking mine up probably today or tomorrow, so this gives me a little more confidence than the issues thread. Hopefully in a few weeks, I'll be posting here as well!

Sorry I meant the drive belt. Was looking at the other issues thread about the recall at the same time of posting this post and someone looked like they had a timing chain cover leak.

Mine had a small leak when I took it in. Hopefully they fix that when they reseal it.

I had a good amount of oil leaking from the timing chain cover. Literally the area under the dipstick was all black/burnt oil. So far so good after the recall/reseal of it as I am constantly monitoring it.

My car is going to Subaru tomorrow morning. They've verbally told me both that there is no warranty except on the valve springs themselves (helpful...:thumbdown:), and also that they will take care of any issues that arise because of their work. From experience, the latter is true, but either way, I'm holding my breath and crossing all my fingers...

FR-S, ~51,000 miles, ~800 since the recall, including one autox.

Spark plugs, drive belt, clutch and related parts.

Zero issues or leaks.

Vehicle mileage: 146,000 miles
Vehicle make: FR-S
Miles after recall: ~600 miles
Other work done with recall: spark plugs, sprocket,2 timing chains,2 lever cp-chn tens,chain guides, 2 chain tensioners, fuel delivery pipe.
Cost: 0
Loaner car: Corolla
Time in the shop: 3 weeks
Dealership: Mike Erdman Toyota, Cocoa Florida

I've got a story to tell. I will try to be brief.
Called them about the recall, got scheduled for two weeks later. Went to the dealership and talked to who I thought was Jay the service manager and he said they would do the spark plugs and TOB for free. Great. (Turns out it wasn't Jay it was his brother.)
Went by the dealership the day before the recall to ask about removing my ESC. Talked to some other Service Manager guy and he said it was OK just disconnect the power leads. I told him about getting the spark plugs and TOB changed for free and he said no way. I said fine, I'll bring it somewhere else and drove off. Before I got out of the dealership I figured I should get this guy's name. He gave me his card and said let's go talk to Jay. The last time I dealt with Jay, he was the service manager at the old smaller location. That was five years ago when they changed my transmission. He was a great guy, totally on the customer's side. Now they moved to a new HUGE location and now Jay is the Service Director. So went and talked to Jay about him saying the spark plugs and TOB will be free. He said it wasn't me and wanted to charge me. I told him I know what's involved here and it should be free. He left came back and said OK and suggested I change the valve seals while they're at it for $400. I said OK.
Dropped the car off the next day and told the service advisor about the spark plugs, TOB and valve seals. She didn't know anything about. We go talk to Jay. He has no evidence of the $400 guides now they're $500. I say fine but I want an invoice before they do anything. They say OK I'll have one by the end of the day. Didn't happen. I thought about it overnight and decided not to pay $500 for something that ain't broke. Got there at 8:30 am to tell Jay to cancel the recall, I don't want it done. He says too late they already started. I was pissed. I told him fine, just do the recall for free. Forget about the sparkplugs, TOB and seals. This is Friday.
I get a call from Jay about 4 o'clock. He says they found evidence of an "overrev" and I need to take a look. Went there the next day 8:00 am. The service dept is closed. Jay shows me my engine and the valve timing is off. By about one tooth. I told him this is impossible, you guys must have changed it. He gave me a list of parts Toyota recommends changing. $748.34 worth of parts. I went and got my camera and took pictures noting that everything was in pristine condition. I even pointed out that the chains, sprockets, guides and tensioners were in perfect condition. Then he mentioned the CEL the car came in with. I told him he was completely full of shit. The only CEL the car ever had was 5 years ago when I put the ESC on without a tune. I told him I don't think the car would even run in this condition. I told him I was going to call Corporate. He gave me the number.
I didn't do anything until Tuesday. Thought I would give Jay a chance to weasel out of the situation. Called Jay asked what's going on? He said nothing, have you talked to corporate? I said no, I wanted to give you a chance, but if that's what you want , so be it. Called corporate several times over a couple weeks just trying to get a third party to look at the engine. What it finally came down to was it was between me and Jay.
In the mean time, my loaner car had a maintainence alarm came on after the second week. Called them and said don't worry about it. Called them again and told them I don't know how long I will need the car, may be months for all I know. They said bring it by. I go there and the say Jay wants to talk to me. Oh no. He said he worked it out with the regional manager and that they would pay for all the recommended parts and they would change the spark plugs for free. Car should be done tomorrow. Went and picked it up the next day. The car runs perfect. Checked the oil and noticed it wasn't my dipstick. The oil was WAY overfilled and I noticed the dipstick tube was glued in.
Well that was 11 days and 600 miles ago and so far no problems at all. Hope it doesn't blow up. Here's my invoice.

YIKES, what a story - :eyebulge:


humfrz

I realize that "no issues" is relative in this recall, and that not having a blown engine is now the measure of success. But multiple times in this thread I've read things I'd consider to be issues and this story and the oil / glued in dipstick would be something I'd consider an issue, even if my engine didn't blow up.

That said, hope all continues well as far as not having major issues.

50800'ish
600'ish miles since recall +plugs, belt, clutch, TOB

So far so good.

I think this registry thread would serve the community better if there was a minimum mileage restriction before reporting - maybe something in the range of 1-3,000 miles?

Reading the above reports of 200 or 500 problem-free miles are honestly pointless when there are reports of motors grenading at 500+ miles post repair.


I understand the majority of failures are happening very soon after repair, but still.....

Vehicle Mileage:156xxx
Vehicle Make: 13 FR-S
Miles After Recall Performed:158900
Other work completed with recall:nothing

you put a 158 thousand miles on your car since the recall?

I ain't 2 good at math but I'll tell you whuutt these numbers just don't compute in my science brain.


:)

158900 - 156xxx = ~2900 ?

which socal dealership did you go to?

158900 - 156XXX = 2YYY

:slap: slowly put the beaker down and back away from the fume hood - :confused0068:


humfrz

DCH Toyota of Oxnard

Vehicle Mileage:115xxx
Vehicle Make:*Scion FRS
Miles After Recall Performed:2000+
Other work completed with recall: None

Side note: sound tube was not fully tightened(gasp), but more importantly there is some cosmetic damage to my alternator. Still works so whatever.

I am taking my car in on Wednesday for the recall. I just got over 40,000 miles. It seems like a lot of people are doing spark plugs, drive belt, may be even clutch and TOB. I am just wondering at 40,000, should I even look at replacing any of these? Let's say I only have to pay for parts because the engine is already. What should I replace and why?

I have 45,000 miles and I went with the spark plugs and TOB. Unless you are really hard on the clutch it should last many more years.

You accumulated a lot of miles. Any problems you got on the road beside the valve spring recall? Did you changed radiator fluid

I would suggest you have them replace the spark plugs. Why? Because they are 2/3 wore out and they are a pain to replace when the engine is in the car.

Also, I would suggest you have them replace the TOB with the new, improved one. Why? Because, it will save replacing it on down the road.


humfrz

Thanks guy. I will do the spark plugs, drive belt and TOB. Quick question. How much should I expect to pay for the TOB replacement if it's being performed during the recall?

The part itself costs from $35 - to $50. The labor should not be charged or maybe a few dollars. Make sure they replace it with the new, improved version.


humfrz

Vehicle Mileage:20,010
Vehicle Make: 2013 Scion FR-S
Miles After Recall Performed: 1,000
Other work completed with recall: none

My engine has not blown-up. Yet.

But about 2 weeks after the recall was done, my check engine light came on. I pulled over, plugged in my OBDII, and it gave me a P0455 (large evap leak.) My fuel cap seal was looking a little shabby, so I put on a new OEM cap and cleared the codes. A week later, the light came back on. I popped the hood and saw that a hose was disconnected from the intake manifold. Probably part of the annoying evap system. Light has been off for 2 weeks. If that was all the idiots doing the recall forgot to do, I will be very happy.

i have actually changed my radiator fluid. I noticed my temp gauge raising randomly around maybe 150k miles, didn't do a complete flush, just drained what was in the radiator which was maybe a little less than a gallon and added almost two jugs of the Toyota blue stuff.

They probably didn’t bleed the air out properly which is kind of sad because it’s damn easy to bleed this car.

Vehicle Mileage: ~69k
Vehicle Make: FRS
Miles After Recall Performed: ~4k miles, 2 trackdays
Other work completed with recall: 2017+ TOB

I've been driving her like I stole it, no issues to report. Changed the oil twice since, everything looked fine. No leaks, etc. Toyota of SLO seems to have done a great job.

Vehicle Mileage: 55,000
Vehicle Make: 2013 Subaru BRZ
Miles After Recall Performed: ~4,000
Other work completed with recall: none
Dealer who performed work: Camelback Subaru Phoenix AZ

Located the car for sale in Phoenix end of Jan. Private sale. Seller mentioned the recall. My plan was to drive it cross-country from Phoenix to Chicagoland. The seller was nice enough to take the car in for the recall prior to any sale being finalized. The dealer took about a week, and postponed delivery a few times, but maintained an acceptable level of communication about the progress and testing. Happy to report the car was done right. After it was finished, the seller put only a handful of miles on it prior to meeting up. I drove it straight to Chicagoland with no issues. I then did a turn-and-burn and drove it straight to Baton Rouge LA. After a week of work, drove back to Chicagoland. Then did an oil change, no debris could be found. More miles since the oil change and continues to be normal. Thank you Camelback Subaru!

I'm generally driving my turbo B16 Civic coupe that I do all wrenching and tuning for. I usually don't trust dealerships so I feel lucky. That being said, if the FA20 is seriously that susceptible to failure by RTV loose in the oil, I would suggest people change the oil right away. Protocol should be assemble the engine, wait a period of time for RTV to cure before filling with oil. After oil is filled, idle the engine till operating temperature. Stop the motor, drain all the oil out, swap the filter, fill it again, and idle up to operating temperature again. If you feel worried still, burn another $25 and swap the oil out again. I haven't seen anyone suggest wasting oil to clean the engine out, but that's going to be your best bet I say.

I'll let someone more knowledgeable than I go into the technical details, but the concern around "just do an oil change after" isn't just particulate left in the oil. Rather the concern seems to be the sealant breaks off and clogs pathways and galleys all over the engine. In the case of the cam bearings, for example, Subaru's actual notice states that the sealant can be captured in the cam carrier. This wouldn't be solved by an oil change alone. The obvious sign is the oil pickup, but it's not the only place the sealant is doing damage



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I gotcha. Since posting I saw some info in another thread.

Now I guess I'm curious to know if the FA20 by design uses RTV to seal any pressurized oil passages. If not, part of the problem could be where techs are applying the RTV.

I think there were a couple cases of people posting pictures of sealant applied in places where Subaru explicitly provided instructions not to apply sealant. Whether these are any of the pressurized oil passages I'm not so sure, but it's not helping the problem regardless.

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Vehicle Mileage: 75,000
Vehicle Make: 2013 Subaru BRZ
Miles After Recall Performed: ~1,000
Other work completed with recall: replaced Clutch, replaced driver side axle with a DriveShaft Shop unit, replaced spark plugs.
Dealer who performed work: Orange Coast Subaru, Santa Ana CA


Special Notes: My car is heavily modified. Running flex fuel E85, Greddy turbo kit, ECUtek, fuel injectors, Greddy oil cooler, and much more. This place was kind enough to take off my turbo and reinstall it for me, though they did charge me some labor.

Car has been flawless since. No issues, no leaks, no funny noises.

Vehicle Mileage: 88,500

Vehicle Make: 2013 Scion FRS

Miles After Recall Performed: 1,408

Other work completed with recall: None

Dealer who performed work: Concord, Toyota; Concord, California

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For those who did the recall with a tune / OFT. Did you guys flash it back to stock before dropping it off and then you guys continue to run the stock tune for those 1000+ miles after getting it back?

No. I didn't flash mine back to stock, because of my noncatted UEL headers. I dropped it off tuned and informed then about the modification the car have. There was no CEL/codes for O2 sensor, when I picked it up, so they wouldn't have tuned it back either... Just inform them, to make sure.

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