Originally Posted by Dr. BRZ (Post 3176828)

At that many miles and used, suggested is go buy a new clutch, new tob, New clutch fork and new pivot ball. The valve springs are not a big issue, you can ignore it.

Originally Posted by RyMi (Post 3176829)

Thanks for the tip. I’m not very mechanically savvy, but I’m assuming the parts you listed are synonymous with what you’d usually replace when doing a clutch anyways? Figured I’d have to do that sooner than later


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Originally Posted by Mr.ac (Post 3176858)

Well being a '13-14 chances are they are on the recall list.
No biggie, it's a free service just takes time.

As far as what to look for, throw out bearing, maybe coil pack(s). That's about it.
It is easy to work on.....besides the spark plugs but it can be done, just a huge pain in the ass.

Originally Posted by RyMi (Post 3176827)

I’d rather not buy the thing and then immediately have to dump cash (besides things you’d normally freshen up on a used car)

Originally Posted by chaoskaze (Post 3176888)

you better buy additional 50k mile warranty from dealer, you gonna need it since you aint mechanically savvy.

I can count the stuffs that might go out after 60k miles + there are good amount of wear & tear items that will need to be replaced & wont be covered by warranty after that mileage.



I would get a 30k mile one if you are serious, trust me, you are not saving money by buying a 50-70k one. No point in gambling..... thou buying a used twin is kind like a gamble... :cheers:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3176889)

Or they can go 120K with zero issues. The car does not start to disintegrate at 60K. Wear and tear items won't be covered by an extended warranty anyway.

Originally Posted by chaoskaze (Post 3176890)

It really depends on the previous owner with these cars.:brokenheart:

If I can do it again I would get 100k mile warranty from dealer when I bought the car brand new, my timing chain cover starts to leak oil after 58k miles. After countless canyon run & 10 ish track/drift event.....ya :burnrubber::bonk:

Originally Posted by RyMi (Post 3176827)

My perception is that this is a pretty reliable, easy to work on, and fun sports car for the money. I’m just easily frazzled I suppose...

Originally Posted by guybo (Post 3176915)

I'd go for extended warranty because it doesn't take much to pay for itself UNLESS you are going to heavily mod it.

High pressure fuel pump alone is over $2k. Plus used, you never know what the last owner did with the car

Get a PPI either way. Don't trust 1 word the dealership or salesman says. Most cars were garage kept and belonged to the manager OR owner of the car lot LOL

Originally Posted by tobin (Post 3176923)

You are correct on all points. I've owned a '13 since new and have had no major issues yet. When I bring the car in for the recall, I'll likely do plugs and some other maintenance items at the same time. Otherwise, it's a very easy car to work on and very reliable. This is the third Subaru I have owned.

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3176889)

Or they can go 120K with zero issues. The car does not start to disintegrate at 60K. Wear and tear items won't be covered by an extended warranty anyway.

Originally Posted by chaoskaze (Post 3176888)

you better buy additional 50k mile warranty from dealer, you gonna need it since you aint mechanically savvy.



I can count the stuffs that might go out after 60k miles + there are good amount of wear & tear items that will need to be replaced & wont be covered by warranty after that mileage.







I would get a 30k mile one if you are serious, trust me, you are not saving money by buying a 50-70k one. No point in gambling..... thou buying a used twin is kind like a gamble... :cheers:



or get a carmax one with unlimit mile warranty for x amount of years & make a youtube series. :D

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3176892)

I have just gone over 120,000 miles and other than the TOB have not had a single thing go wrong much less something that would be covered by a warranty. Hell I didn't even need to change my wiper blades until almost 100K. If the car was well maintained and not beat to hell I just do not see any advantage to getting an extended warranty since they simply do not cover enough to have value. If it as obviously beat on then buy another.

Originally Posted by RyMi (Post 3177010)

This was more of what I would have expected from a car like this. Sounds like buying right is really what it comes down to


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Originally Posted by RyMi (Post 3177010)

This was more of what I would have expected from a car like this. Sounds like buying right is really what it comes down to


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Originally Posted by chaoskaze (Post 3177215)

To be honest the car is pretty reliable. :party0030: Cuz It's a simple car that's overbuild for the stock spec.

I would inspect the car you are interested on a jack with a mechanic if you can. Check if there are oil on the underplate/header anywhere around the engine. Rest are easy fix really.

then pray for the rest.....like he didn't FI the car previously. :bonk:

Originally Posted by guybo (Post 3176915)

High pressure fuel pump alone is over $2k. Plus used, you never know what the last owner did with the car

Originally Posted by RyMi (Post 3177006)

I’m hoping that’s the case haha. Everyone else is making me think I’d be better off buying a used S2K or something. It’s surprising to me because I really haven’t heard of these cars having a whole lot of issues at all, being Toyotas and all


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Originally Posted by Mr.ac (Post 3177221)

...... $2k for the same fuel pump found in a Camry?
Dude you got raped.

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3176892)

If the car was well maintained and not beat to hell I just do not see any advantage to getting an extended warranty since they simply do not cover enough to have value.

Originally Posted by chaoskaze (Post 3176890)

If I can do it again I would get 100k mile warranty from dealer when I bought the car brand new, my timing chain cover starts to leak oil after 58k miles.

Originally Posted by RyMi (Post 3177006)

It’s surprising to me because I really haven’t heard of these cars having a whole lot of issues at all, being Toyotas and all

Originally Posted by Mr.ac (Post 3177221)

...... $2k for the same fuel pump found in a Camry?
Dude you got raped.

Originally Posted by extrashaky (Post 3177391)

As someone who has now used my extended warranty twice on a vehicle that has been maintained to the letter of the maintenance schedule and has mostly highway miles with no track days or beatings at all, I'd have to disagree.

I think I paid $1000 for the warranty when I bought the car. The oil pump gear exploded at 65K miles, resulting in a $6800 engine replacement that I didn't have to pay for. The warranty more than paid for itself then.

Now at 97K miles the timing cover was leaking about half a quart of oil onto the exhaust manifold between oil changes, stinking when I drove it and getting worse as time went on. I'm going to pick it up today, so I'm not sure what the cost for that would have been.

Granted, I figure this is atypical for this car, as most seem to be pretty reliable. However, a warranty is insurance. I would have been fine paying for it for the peace of mind even if I hadn't had to use it. Twice.



That's exactly the problem that has mine in the shop right now at about 32K on the new motor.



Well first, these cars don't have a lot of issues. Or put a different way, ALL cars have issues, and these cars don't have a disproportionate share of them. It only seems like they have a lot of issues because you're reading an enthusiast site where people talk about their cars. Nobody runs to the internet to talk about the day that their car didn't break. You'll see similar trouble discussion on a Camry board if you can stay awake long enough to read it.

Second, this is not really a Toyota. It's not really a Subaru. It's something in between. So you really can't use one brand or the other as a benchmark for your expectations for this vehicle.



That sounds about right if you have the dealership do it. First you have the markup on the parts, then you have the labor. You can't really compare that to "what if I buy the part online somewhere and install it myself." Because if you take it to the dealership, you're not buying the part online and installing it yourself.

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3177398)

If the reports here are to be believed yours is one of the handful of post 13s to have significant issues. Just the luck of the draw I guess.

Originally Posted by extrashaky (Post 3177516)

That's the way I see it. I'm still an enthusiast. I'd still buy it again expecting no issues.

I'd also still buy the warranty, even though I wouldn't expect to have to use it.

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3176892)

I have just gone over 120,000 miles and other than the TOB have not had a single thing go wrong much less something that would be covered by a warranty. Hell I didn't even need to change my wiper blades until almost 100K. If the car was well maintained and not beat to hell I just do not see any advantage to getting an extended warranty since they simply do not cover enough to have value. If it as obviously beat on then buy another.

Originally Posted by dodj (Post 3177525)

I Agree.
They sell extended warranties, push them quite aggressively actually, because they make a TON of money off of them.

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3177532)

This is what my wife does for a living (only for RVs not cars). Can testify the profits are VERY good. Like most cars the RVs only have a mark up of 2% to 5% which barely covers operating costs. So, for the dealer to actually show a profit they NEED these add on sales. It is where they actually make money.