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TheBRZsKnees 01-02-2019 02:05 PM

Painting Rotors to Prevent Rust
 
After a couple months, the front rotors on my RR Racing Sport kit are looking pretty nasty where the brake pads don't touch.

http://i64.tinypic.com/2myrcz4.jpg

Does anyone have experience painting roters to prevent this? I'm seeing recommendations VHT Caliper Paint on various sites. I'm not sure if I need primer in this case. There are a couple VHT primers like this one, but I'm not sure which would be best.

I know I should mask off the area where the pad touches the rotor to prevent the paint from contaminating the pads. Is there anything else to be on the lookout for?

8RZ 01-02-2019 02:12 PM

Leave it, it matches your wheel spacer.

TheBRZsKnees 01-02-2019 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 8RZ (Post 3168765)
Leave it, it matches your wheel spacer.

Haha, well played.

SuperTom 01-02-2019 02:49 PM

Prep is key too it lasting and not chipping. Sand off all the rust, alcholol clean off area. High heat primer,color, clear. Make its the 1000 degree plus paint since rotors can get very hot. I wouldn't worry about masking as driving and braking will take off any excess paint

TheBRZsKnees 01-02-2019 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperTom (Post 3168786)
Prep is key too it lasting and not chipping. Sand off all the rust, alcholol clean off area. High heat primer,color, clear. Make its the 1000 degree plus paint since rotors can get very hot. I wouldn't worry about masking as driving and braking will take off any excess paint

Is clear coat necessary to protect the paint, or is it just for aesthetics? Can it be skipped if I don't care about a gloss finish?

Leonardo 01-02-2019 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ph4zon (Post 3168789)
Is clear coat necessary to protect the paint, or is it just for aesthetics? Can it be skipped if I don't care about a gloss finish?



Clear coat is not high temp. I would use brake cleaner to clean the brakes. I also would tape off areas you do not want painted. Unless you want paint in your slots....

TheBRZsKnees 01-02-2019 03:42 PM

It seems like the potential products here are brake cleaner, primer, paint, and clear coat. I see tutorials where people use only brake cleaner and caliper paint. Can primer and clear coat be skipped for this application?

Leonardo 01-02-2019 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ph4zon (Post 3168805)
It seems like the potential products here are brake cleaner, primer, paint, and clear coat. I see tutorials where people use only brake cleaner and caliper paint. Can primer and clear coat be skipped for this application?



Yes. Clean the shit out of the parts. Tape them off. Spray a couple coats of high temp paint. Primer and clear are unnecessary.


Do not touch them till they are dry. 24 hours should work if your parts stay at least 60 degrees F.

highway7 01-02-2019 04:40 PM

Next time you can buy rotors that come with the coating in the first place

SuperTom 01-02-2019 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leonardo (Post 3168813)
Yes. Clean the shit out of the parts. Tape them off. Spray a couple coats of high temp paint. Primer and clear are unnecessary.


Do not touch them till they are dry. 24 hours should work if your parts stay at least 60 degrees F.



disagree Ive done the just paint color on method and it will chip off. The primer is to grip to the iron/metal.


And there is high heat clear coat, not too look glossy but to protect the color coat. The amount of nasty particles, road salt, brake dust can eat through the paint.


What I said is important if you want it to last. If you want to skip steps and do it quick you will be doing it again next year.


Saying from old guy at work : "If you don't have the time to do it right when will you have the time to redo it"
https://www.amazon.com/Rust-Oleum-Au...62129512&psc=1

Leonardo 01-02-2019 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperTom (Post 3168839)
disagree Ive done the just paint color on method and it will chip off. The primer is to grip to the iron/metal.


And there is high heat clear coat, not too look glossy but to protect the color coat. The amount of nasty particles, road salt, brake dust can eat through the paint.


What I said is important if you want it to last. If you want to skip steps and do it quick you will be doing it again next year.


Saying from old guy at work : "If you don't have the time to do it right when will you have the time to redo it"
https://www.amazon.com/Rust-Oleum-Au...62129512&psc=1


Show me some 900 degree primer. I used to work at a paint shop. Additionally, Hi temp paint is like enamel, and does not need clear coat.

8RZ 01-02-2019 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Leonardo (Post 3168843)
Show me some 900 degree primer. I used to work at a paint shop. Additionally, Hi temp paint is like enamel, and does not need clear coat.

It's in the link you replied to.

Leonardo 01-02-2019 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 8RZ (Post 3168844)
It's in the link you replied to.




That is clear; not primer.

SuperTom 01-02-2019 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Leonardo (Post 3168845)
That is clear; not primer.

too easy https://www.homedepot.com/p/Rust-Ole...9340/203051510

humfrz 01-02-2019 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ph4zon (Post 3168761)
After a couple months, the front rotors on my RR Racing Sport kit are looking pretty nasty where the brake pads don't touch.

http://i64.tinypic.com/2myrcz4.jpg

I think the rotor looks just fine - however, the rest of the wheel is a mess - ;)


humfrz

ls1ac 01-02-2019 06:21 PM

We drive the car quite hard and the rotors get cherry red. That is about 1300 F. The paint said 900 F intermittent.

TheBRZsKnees 01-03-2019 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperTom (Post 3168852)

Do you recommend that over something like this? The car only sees occasional spirited driving, so I don't think the rotors get super hot.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...KIKX0DER&psc=1

Quote:

Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 3168871)
I think the rotor looks just fine - however, the rest of the wheel is a mess - ;)


humfrz

You're not wrong. Seattle weather hasn't made it easy to keep her pretty and clean.

humfrz 01-03-2019 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ph4zon (Post 3169054)

You're not wrong. Seattle weather hasn't made it easy to keep her pretty and clean.

Fer sure, fer sure. One year, a few years back, my father and mother, who retired in California, bought me a "California Duster" for my cars.

I reckon he didn't realize that we didn't have "dust" here in the PNW. Ya can't have "dust" when it rains twice a day - :iono:


humfrz

SuperTom 01-03-2019 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ph4zon (Post 3169054)
Do you recommend that over something like this? The car only sees occasional spirited driving, so I don't think the rotors get super hot.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...KIKX0DER&psc=1



You're not wrong. Seattle weather hasn't made it easy to keep her pretty and clean.



why not get the 2000 degree paint its the same price?

TheBRZsKnees 01-03-2019 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperTom (Post 3169075)
why not get the 2000 degree paint its the same price?

My only concern is that requirements to cure a higher-heat primer may be more stringent. That's just a guess though. Also, might there be advantages to staying consistent with the primer and paint brands?

Other than that, yeah, it seems like the Rust-Oleum one has a greater benefit.

Spuds 01-03-2019 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ph4zon (Post 3169089)
My only real concern is that re requirements to cure a higher-heat primer may be more stringent. That's just a guess though. Also, might there be advantages to staying consistent with the primer and paint brands?

Other than that, yeah, it seems like the Rust-Oleum one has a greater benefit.

Yes, I believe you have to cure it at high temperature.

SuperTom 01-03-2019 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ph4zon (Post 3169089)
My only real concern is that re requirements to cure a higher-heat primer may be more stringent. That's just a guess though. Also, might there be advantages to staying consistent with the primer and paint brands?

Other than that, yeah, it seems like the Rust-Oleum one has a greater benefit.



Yeah that could be true. I would go to you nearest pepboys and read the cans. 500 degree may work if you are only cruising around

Leonardo 01-03-2019 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ph4zon (Post 3169089)
My only concern is that requirements to cure a higher-heat primer may be more stringent. That's just a guess though. Also, might there be advantages to staying consistent with the primer and paint brands?

Other than that, yeah, it seems like the Rust-Oleum one has a greater benefit.



The VHT paint said to bake the parts in the oven for an hour at 200 F.
Which is totally doable, but a PITA!

TheBRZsKnees 03-15-2019 10:32 PM

Sorry for the late update. I ended up using Dupli-Color Engine Enamel Primer and and silver Caliper Enamel with Ceramic. The paint has held well for the last couple months. It's a big improvement over swaths of rust, but the silver doesn't look very good. I'm planning to redo it black.

http://i64.tinypic.com/2v0h3rc.jpg

http://i66.tinypic.com/14csnlw.jpg

http://i67.tinypic.com/28bqpts.jpg

humfrz 03-15-2019 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ph4zon (Post 3196657)
Sorry for the late update. I ended up using Dupli-Color Engine Enamel Primer and and silver Caliper Enamel with Ceramic. The paint has held well for the last couple months. It's a big improvement over swaths of rust, but the silver doesn't look very good. I'm planning to redo it black.

YIKES! One of those lug nuts has a nick on it - how do you stand that?

:D


humfrz

Spawn_Of_Creation 03-15-2019 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leonardo (Post 3168790)
Clear coat is not high temp. I would use brake cleaner to clean the brakes. I also would tape off areas you do not want painted. Unless you want paint in your slots....

You can get a high heat clear coat (https://www.amazon.com/Dupli-Color®-.../dp/B0082LGJ2C), but it's not necessary.

Leonardo 03-15-2019 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spawn_Of_Creation (Post 3196669)
You can get a high heat clear coat (https://www.amazon.com/Dupli-Color®-.../dp/B0082LGJ2C), but it's not necessary.

Thanks! :cheers:


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