FR-S RECALL
 

so unfortunately i'm one of the lucky 86 owners who's car was manufactured through said date and i'm not really sure on what to do , i've heard of people taking in their 86's to the dealership and having to pay around 10k and that's pretty much worth more than what i payed for my car and i don't know what to do so i thought i would ask you guys

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A recall is to correct a serious defect due to engineering or manufacturing error.

It won’t cost you anything out of pocket.

It’s possible a shady dealer might take advantage of the uninformed. Be informed.

I dont think you are familiar with the recall, or you have been lied to.

considering that they need to pull the motor out of the car to perform the recall, it's going to leave a lot of angry techs and service writers. so i would be prepared for a ghost list of things the car 'needs' before it leaves, but other then declining whatever they manage to 'find', there shouldn't be any charge.

it has something to do with the valve springs

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Bullshit. Who told you that?

Do research on all the dealerships in your area. There are bad ones and you want avoid returning for repairs they screwed up. You should pay a total of $0. If any dealer says any cost is on you go somewhere else. The good dealers will give you a rental for free.

Recall work is paid for by the mfg.
You may need to take the car to a dealer and leave it for a couple days.
Depending on the dealer you may get a loan car, or have to provide your own transport while it's being done.

They shouldn't be charging you for the valve spring work itself.

Dealerships are paid parity, i.e. retail labor rate, for warranty repairs. They usually welcome the recall business. It's profitable if they beat the flat rate book labor allowance, lets the master techs do something more interesting than quick maintenance service jobs, and gives the new vehicle sales side a chance to interact with customers they may not have seen in a while.

It's the angry customers who will need TLC and dealerships have gotten much better at that than the old days before warranty parity incentivized quality repairs and customer relations.

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You don't have to do anything until you get a letter in the mail. That will tell you what you have to do.

Like others said, the valve spring recall ain't gonna cost ya nutten.


humfrz

Oh, Youngmanhenry, ol @Ultramaroon was jest ah messen wich ya, pay him no never mind - ;)


humfrz

that's the theory. i've met plenty of techs that despise doing warranty work because it usually pays less, and just as many service writers that hate it because it consumes a bay that multiples of shorter term jobs could be filling.

They hate it but it has to be done. I usually laughed since i am was in parts and my job was a lot easier.

Total recall

Ain't gonna cost ya nutten but yo time!! That's a personal commodity not all of us have a infinite supply of. The one question I have is, if a valve spring were to break while driving, how much damage does that do to the engine? I'd suspect being premptive and taking car into dealer for the service/recall before a valve spring breaks would be less costly to manufacture. ...but how much less costly?

Well, ya, I was speaking of "out of pocket" costs. My bad, I forget that "time is money", because I'm retired and on a fixed income - :bonk:

If a valve spring breaks while driving, I reckon that it just might leave the valve "open" and in the combustion chamber, so as when the piston comes along, and the valve is supposed to be out of the way, the head of the piston will beat the hell out of the valve and the engine will blow or at least stop running.

As far as a preemptive move and take your car in for the recall, I reckon it would have to be on their list and a recall issued for your car. If so, you may be able to convince the dealer to put on the top of the recall list.

Meanwhile, you could always just not drive your car, then when you get the recall notice and make an appointment with the dealer to have it fixed, have the car towed to the dealership.

OR

Just drive the car, wait for it to be recalled, then take it in (or not).

I found out late in the game, that worrying about shit like that is just not good for you.


humfrz

Right, time is money and visa versa ( Ben Franklin coined that phrase......and he was not a "dead president " , yet he was /is basically on the highest denomination bill ..... jack of many trades. I would have probably put Ben on the $50 bill, but had Lincoln on the $100....but I digress.....

As for time....no one can really buy time , but people can trade their time for some kind of money $1 per 5min, etc....what they feel as though their time is worth and/ or what their local market will bare. Most people can be bought, but not many people can just walk away from the dollars, and do something else with their time. I'll bet most ...most ( not all) dealerships don't value their customers time, as much as how they value their own time.

WOW! getten all heavy there - :eyebulge:

Before ol @Tcoat comes to and tells the story, I will relate it. Yep, back in the day, ol Ben and I were sitting in the City Tavern in Philadelphia, when a late afternoon rainstorm kicked up. He ask me to hold his beer as he ran outside with his kite.


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humfrz

OK, I got the papers for the recall on my 2013. I was a master tech at Nissan and wondering if someone from a dealer has a parts list.

I don't imagine anyone changing valve springs at a dealer. These should be fully assembled new heads correct?

Just curious if this includes a new fuel pump and plugs on the recall. Head work like just installing springs does not happen at dealers so it must be a new head assembly.

I'm close to 30k miles and want the full parts list before I call to set up the repair. Just to see what maintenance I can get done cheap or free from the recall.

Time is probably 15 minutes to drop off a car and pick up a loaner from a decent dealer for 3k in parts if they do the work on heads like any dealer. You do not replace valve springs as a tech at a dealer. You should be getting a head assembly and everything they can have on it to make it fast.

At Nissan we never did head work even tho I was trained by two tech schools to do so 20 years ago. I imagine it's a new set of heads and everything else as a set.

The letter states it will take a day and a half. Even as a tech 15 years ago I'd pick a head fully assembled compared to just taking a head off and sending it out to be machined because it's out of spec on the measurements you are supposed to do.

Would like if someone that works at a dealer to give us the parts list.

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