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Grips&slips 12-20-2018 01:28 PM

Half trd parts from the factory?
 
Hey this might be a weird/dumb question, but my car is throwing me off a little. I have a 2015 frs in the Pearl white and it was a leased car that I bought from Toyota after the lease period was over and it was returned to them. The car was made in one of the Japan factories and has a TRD intake and front and rear TRD sway bars but the springs on my car and shocks are black. So was this some kind of factory option or are the springs most likely the TRD one's as well and the ones over there were black?

Sapphireho 12-20-2018 01:39 PM

Sounds like previous leaser or dealer put on TRD bars and intake, that's all. TRD springs are also red.

Tcoat 12-20-2018 01:49 PM

TRD parts are not factory but dealer or port installed. Unless bought separately elsewhere and installed by the owner/leaser of course.
The cars are all made in one factory in Japan. There are not several plants.
It is not unusual for dealers to kit out an in stock car with some TRD parts to boost the price. Some less scrupulous dealers have even been known to install TRD parts and call it their own "TRD Special Edition".
As said all TRD springs are red.

AutoNewb 12-20-2018 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Grips&slips (Post 3165479)
Hey this might be a weird/dumb question, but my car is throwing me off a little. I have a 2015 frs in the Pearl white and it was a leased car that I bought from Toyota after the lease period was over and it was returned to them. The car was made in one of the Japan factories and has a TRD intake and front and rear TRD sway bars but the springs on my car and shocks are black. So was this some kind of factory option or are the springs most likely the TRD one's as well and the ones over there were black?

TRD are part options you can installed from your order or from the parts department of a Toyota Dealer if your car is on the lot.

Also... ALL the twins are made in Japan, just so you know :)

Grips&slips 12-20-2018 02:22 PM

Ah ok I thought maybe some were made in different factories. And thanks guys that answers my questions. I'm glad it came with these because I want to do simple daily driver friendly upgrades so sway bars and a drop in air filter would have been some of my first things anyway. So far I just put the g force comp tires on, a front struts bar from Grimm speed because I got it for $60 and a heavier shift knob. But I this saved me some money and I can go straight to some rce yellow springs in a bit.
But yeah the dealership didn't say anything about it being a TRD so they didn't try to pass it off as one. Thanks again for clearing that up.

Tcoat 12-21-2018 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Grips&slips (Post 3165506)
Ah ok I thought maybe some were made in different factories. And thanks guys that answers my questions. I'm glad it came with these because I want to do simple daily driver friendly upgrades so sway bars and a drop in air filter would have been some of my first things anyway. So far I just put the g force comp tires on, a front struts bar from Grimm speed because I got it for $60 and a heavier shift knob. But I this saved me some money and I can go straight to some rce yellow springs in a bit.
But yeah the dealership didn't say anything about it being a TRD so they didn't try to pass it off as one. Thanks again for clearing that up.

Not such a big deal now that they are sold through Toyota but the add on parts were a great negotiating tool back in the Scion days. Since Scion had the fixed price no haggle policy they couldn't budge on the sticker price of the car but they could give add ons at reduced or even no cost. This could add value for the buyer without impacting the sticker price. My car was loaded with TRD and other special parts which I negotiated into the deal. I ended up with $5,000 worth of extras for only $1,000 added to the sticker price. Was a great deal for me since it was all stuff I would have added later anyway if I had just bought a base car. AND it was all covered by warranty since it was dealer installed!

Spuds 12-21-2018 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3165772)
Not such a big deal now that they are sold through Toyota but the add on parts were a great negotiating tool back in the Scion days. Since Scion had the fixed price no haggle policy they couldn't budge on the sticker price of the car but they could give add ons at reduced or even no cost. This could add value for the buyer without impacting the sticker price. My car was loaded with TRD and other special parts which I negotiated into the deal. I ended up with $5,000 worth of extras for only $1,000 added to the sticker price. Was a great deal for me since it was all stuff I would have added later anyway if I had just bought a base car. AND it was all covered by warranty since it was dealer installed!

Damn I wish I would have thought of that...

Though I don't think there were trd parts in 2013...

Tcoat 12-21-2018 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Spuds (Post 3165787)
Damn I wish I would have thought of that...

Though I don't think there were trd parts in 2013...

I probably wouldn't have thought of it if my car hadn't been the show room car and had all the parts on it to show people what was available in 14. At first they tried to charge me for the parts and I said no. Then they tried to sell me one from stock with nothing on it and I said no I want that one. Next they said 50% off the parts and I said no. Then while still talking to the manager the truck pulled in with the first load of 15s and I pointed at it and said I would give them $1,000 over sticker. They said yes.
Full tint, clear bra, TRD exhaust, TRD bars, TRD drop in filter (the whole intake was not available in Canada yet) Scion spoiler and TRD lowering springs. As it turned out the "TRD" lowering springs were actually RSR Superdowns but I had them sign off that they were still covered under manufacturer warranty. They also had the most god awful very expensive, off white, staggered (9" rear, 8.5" front), TRD wheels on it but I told them to take those off and would only pay for stock.

Clipdat 12-21-2018 01:59 PM

You drive a hard bargain.

Tcoat 12-21-2018 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Clipdat (Post 3165800)
You drive a hard bargain.

I had the advantage of not actually shopping for any car much less an FRS at that point. My Lancer was only two years old so I would not have been shopping for a new car until at least 2016. It was pure coincidence that I stumbled across it and I didn't even know they were making them. So if they hadn't done a deal I was happy with I would have just walked away and probably never have gone back. Likely be tooling around in a Genesis coupe now if I hadn't just been killing time while my Lancer was being serviced next door, my particular car hadn't been in the showroom and the 15s hadn't started to arrive right in the middle of my negotiating.
I am probably the only person on this forum that bought their car within an hour of learning they even existed at all. Boy was my wife surprised!

humfrz 12-21-2018 03:21 PM

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I had the advantage of not actually shopping for any car much less an FRS at that point. - Boy was my wife surprised!

I got the picture - :D


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Tcoat 12-21-2018 03:25 PM

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I got the picture - :D


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Impureclient 12-21-2018 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3165835)
I am probably the only person on this forum that bought their car within an hour of learning they even existed at all.

I was sure I was getting a Camaro, 370z or Genesis Coupe and went to the Toyota dealership just to take a look at what was there in case they had a nice used one.
I did the same thing as you, bought right after seeing it for the first time and test driving. It's weird because I usually have a pretty good grasp on what is on the road
and I can't even remember seeing a frs/brz before getting mine. And that all happened after them being out for about 2.5 years.

Tcoat 12-21-2018 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Impureclient (Post 3165856)
I was sure I was getting a Camaro, 370z or Genesis Coupe and went to the Toyota dealership just to take a look at what was there in case they had a nice used one.
I did the same thing as you, bought right after seeing it for the first time and test driving. It's weird because I usually have a pretty good grasp on what is on the road
and I can't even remember seeing a frs/brz before getting mine. And that all happened after them being out for about 2.5 years.

Yep they were very rare around here in 14. I literally bought the very first one I ever saw either in real life or even a picture.

Sapphireho 12-21-2018 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3165866)
Yep they were very rare around here in 14. I literally bought the very first one I ever saw either in real life or even a picture.


When I went to the dealer and bought mine, it was the first time I had seen one in person.

Tcoat 12-21-2018 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Sapphireho (Post 3165890)
When I went to the dealer and bought mine, it was the first time I had seen one in person.

But you at least knew they existed prior to the visit right? I am sure that many or even most people had not seen one in real life when they bought them in 13. My entire knowledge of them was an article about the concept back in 09. And we all know how accurate those things can be in what really happens. I didn't even know they actually built the car. This is one reason I always chuckle when people here assume that everybody in the general population knows all about these cars. I am a car guy and didn't know they existed so why should Joey's great aunt know all about them?

Spuds 12-21-2018 06:09 PM

Lol so I was paying some attention to media around the 86 in 2011 and 2012. By the end of senior year I needed one bad. I did wind up buying the first one I saw in person after test driving it then dreaming of it for a week.

Sapphireho 12-21-2018 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3165892)
But you at least knew they existed prior to the visit right? I am sure that many or even most people had not seen one in real life when they bought them in 13. My entire knowledge of them was an article about the concept back in 09. And we all know how accurate those things can be in what really happens. I didn't even know they actually built the car. This is one reason I always chuckle when people here assume that everybody in the general population knows all about these cars. I am a car guy and didn't know they existed so why should Joey's great aunt know all about them?


The only reason I knew they existed was an old racing buddy of mine showed me a Road and Track video on his phone one day while we were having lunch. I had spent about 2 years looking at NSX's and Lotus', but just couldn't pull the trigger since I knew neither one would really work well as a weekend getaway car with the wife. So I took the wife to the dealer on a Friday night on a whim, and came home with the car.

Impureclient 12-21-2018 11:05 PM

How is Joey's great aunt these days. Is she still in that abusive relationship with Enzo the roofer? That guy does not treat her very good and I tell you what,
some day Esmeralda (her nosy rear neighbor) is going to get her soon to be freed from jail cousin Balki Bartokomous and teach Enzo a lesson or two.

accwai 12-22-2018 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Sapphireho (Post 3165890)
When I went to the dealer and bought mine, it was the first time I had seen one in person.

The first time I had an up close look at the twins was summer 2017 at a local dealer. There was a pair side by side in the outside lot. They looked very different in detail, probably FRS vs 86.

Early 2018, all the dealers were trying to clear their 2017 backlog. An 86, same color as the one from summer 2017, appeared suddenly at a prominent place in the dealer lot. I asked about it and was told it's an auto. I said this color but no auto please. They say sure, there is one exactly like that in the downstairs stash. The rest is history.

One fact came out while talking terms: it had been a long term demo that was registered in about the same month I saw the pair in summer of 2017. So this could be the same one I saw in 2017 and I might have actually bought the first 86 I had a close look at.

Tcoat 12-22-2018 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Impureclient (Post 3165940)
How is Joey's great aunt these days. Is she still in that abusive relationship with Enzo the roofer? That guy does not treat her very good and I tell you what,
some day Esmeralda (her nosy rear neighbor) is going to get her soon to be freed from jail cousin Balki Bartokomous and teach Enzo a lesson or two.

DUDE! Enzo was killed in a freak aardvark herding accident a couple of months ago. You need to be more careful when talking shit about people since now everybody says he treated her like an angel.

Impureclient 12-22-2018 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3166028)
DUDE! Enzo was killed in a freak aardvark herding accident a couple of months ago. You need to be more careful when talking shit about people since now everybody says he treated her like an angel.

Well excuse me, I get all my info from my garbage man's wife who tells Maude, the checkout lady at the grocery store!

Tcoat 12-22-2018 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Impureclient (Post 3166029)
Well excuse me, I get all my info from my garbage man's wife who tells Maude, the checkout lady at the grocery store!

And then there's Maude...

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xdavidx 12-22-2018 12:42 PM

Based on the number of people that have stopped me getting in/out of my car since I bought it a few months ago and asked me wtf it was and the percentage of people who say wtf is that? when I say I own a Toyota 86, I'd say a large portion of the public has no idea that this car exists. People are always shocked that there is a Toyota that they didn't know exists since the camry, corolla, avalon, tacoma, etc are all so mass produced and in your face all the time. Some toyota dealers don't even have them on their lots and the sales people don't know anything about them. This makes owning it all the more fun though.

Grips&slips 12-22-2018 08:26 PM

Yeah I drove three of these cars in two days. One was stick the other had some body work issues and then coilovers that were set way too low at the time, and then this one with just the TRD sway bars was almost perfect for what o wanted as a daily. I think these cars go for a bit more overe here next to D.C. though. I got mine for 15k even after all the taxes and what not with 20k miles on it. Now I'm debating on selling my Miata because I like this more than I thought I would haha.


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