I have the valve spring recall information.
 

Information is out to the dealers. Letters should be coming to customers at the end of December. Different part numbers for automatics and manuals. Fluids changed will be the oil, coolant, and R134. Obviously. Figure a day and a half for repairs.

So what is the TSB for the spring change? Standard service manual change or time reduced shortcut change?

Yeah man spill some details.

BEANS! Wee need da BEANZ!

Oil, coolant, and A/C? I'm guessing the motor needs to come out, then?

The fact they would have to pull the engine was never in doubt. To access the heads it has to come up. The question is just how much of it has to come apart? Did they develop a work around shortcut as has been discussed elsewhere?

Here's some media coverage from earlier this year.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news...ues/ar-BBPgYRU

I just changed my oil so I guess I'll bring it in around the time of my next change is due.

If you get your letter and they are ready by then.

Out dated and inaccurate. There are over 400,000 vehicles involved as of the last reports.

Interested in this as well. I've got a little bit of a leaky timing chain cover, so it'd be good to kill 2 birds with 1 stone if it's got to come off and get resealed.

I heard some SPECULATION from a Subaru service writer. A lot of the techs and writers seem to think Subaru will replace the heads with heads that are pre-loaded with the new valve springs to save time and ease the install.

Again this is the opinion of one Subaru writer and a few techs. It seems plausible but I argue that the cost of new heads may outweigh the time of just replacing the valve springs. Crazier things have happened.

Is there an updated list of VIN number ranges?

I understand the sites where you can check have been updated.
https://www.ft86club.com/forums/show...&postcount=503


Really wish there was just one thread on this instead of one guy making a new one every time they have something to say!


https://www.ft86club.com/forums/show...131043&page=36

Ya they have to pull the engine either way and that is where the real time will be spent. There are more than one engine type involved so preloading heads would be costly. Don't see swapping heads saving enough time to make the materials costs worth it but stranger things have happened in the mystical automotive realm.

Yeah, I think people have visions of removing valve covers and then just unbloting the whole thing in one piece. It just doesn't work that way. Giving people band new heads, valve seals, valves, springs, keepers and and retainers just to save 20mins doesn't make much sense.

They might decide to do batches of reworked heads, and then the old heads become the new batch after rework.

There is talk about not removing the head at all. The two options would net out time waise. If you pop the springs off without removing the heads then you would be saving just as much time as you would to unbolt and bolt on a rebuilt head. So then it becomes a cost issue and shipping costs alone would make it not worth it even if you are reusing parts.

It seems like giving the first 100 people brand new engines and then start a circulation of refurbished engines would be cost effective. The dealers could swap in a new engine in 3 hours and then there could be a small staff of Subaru corporate workers who do the rebuilds at a central location and get really good at it. Seems like this would cut down on bad rebuilds done by dealers and people coming back with other problems. But I don't think this would work because people would potentially go from a 20K engine to a refurbished 150K engine.

Regardless this is going to cost a ton of money.

Makes sense. Still have to remove the cams either way right?

Correct

Mom and pop shop methods. Not going to do that for 400,000 engines.

Depending on what report you read it will be someplace between $400,000,000 and $500,000,000. With 400,000 cars affected I don't see how they can do it for less than that.


As a forum we are looking at actions to correct the handful of FRS/BRZs involved and not seeing the big picture. They are not going to give new engines to anybody nor start rebuilding and swapping heads. There are just too many variables and logistics involved to make that feasible.


"Subaru is taking a substantial hit from this development, having cut operating profit expectations for the April-September period (the first half of Japan’s financial year) last week by $434 million (49 billion yen). The company now estimates an operating profit of $540 million (61 billion yen) for this period, which is largely a result of the recall and its subsequent costs."

Heh, yeah me too. I haven't been driving the car much since because it needs a few other things like tires and rear hub bearings so it would probably be the spring before I need to change it again.

Heck if they toss new/rebuilt motors I'll take one with lower than my 108k :)

Yesterday I had the oil changed at the dealer. Confirmed that my '13 is part of the recall. But, the dealer doesn't have the recall fix instructions yet to schedule the repair. They thought I should be receiving notification from Subaru soon.

youre all getting new springs. that's it. no engines, no heads.. springs.