much hate for the FRS
 

i was trying to google something for the FRS and somehow ended up on this forum...

http://www.gencoupe.com/other-vehicl...l-already.html

didn't expect people to hate the FRS so much just for getting good reviews.... :party0030:

Sure sign of the apocalypse. Never thought I'd see the day Hyundai owners had a superiority complex.

Did a quick read on that thread. It's a bunch of same stuff that's already been discussed on this board. Concerns on young possibly "idiotic" demographic of the FRS vs more "mature" demographic of the BRZ (which i haven't really seen happen up in my neck of the woods). FRS/BRZ being low on power on the straights. Doesn't seem any worse than what's been said on this board IMO.

Hell, I was close to getting a gen coupe 2.0T R-type before having the worst experiences at two Hyundai dealerships turned me off.

I like interior and HP aspect over the FRS. I definitely like the exterior of the FRS more though, which to me mattered a little more than HP. But I still think the gen coupe is a great car. Not sure what those guys are heckling about.

I've never had a huge interest in the gen coupe. I feel the older ones look much better than the newer, but I've admired Hyundai for what they've done in recent years. They sure offer a lot of bang / buck.

I don't understand the hate directed at other enthusiasts for their choice in vehicle--we're all enthusiasts after all. The only thing I can attribute it to is people trying to validate their purchases as some sort of psychological reaffirmation.

Why can't we just all get along, :thumbdown:

This^^^

At the end of the day, they bought a Hyundai, which I just can't bring myself to do yet. Despite the great strides they've made in recent years, make no mistake, I'm cheering for them, they've still got a ways to go in building a true enthusiasts car. Cheap luxury? Good for you, but creating a better driver's car takes a little more research than upping the budget for nicer leathers.

Ha. :) Not so much what I meant. It wasn't a knock on Hyundai, because I think they make some pretty decent cars these days. I'm just not used to seeing "your car sucks and mine is so much better. It's a Hyundai bra!"

What's hateful there? Seems they're basically saying it's a decent enough car for what it is, but the hype seems a bit overboard. Whether true or not, that's not really "hateful.

yeah...I was looking at a gen coupe at the same time i was looking at the FR-S. I chose the FR-S because it's a toyota and not a hyundai. Once day i may buy a hyundai, but that day has yet to happen.

the gen coupe is an amazing car, I just can't get over the fact that it's a hyundai. I figured i'll deal with a Scion and just rebadge it toyota. =P

I didn't really have anything against the GC when I drove one a while back, except the way the interior was put together I just didn't like the way it felt.

The door lock / window controls were on the door in a way that seemed pretty awkward (it's really hard to explain, they were on the side panel in a way where it would have been more convenient to use your right hand to reach across to access them), the center stack was busy enough to belong in a sedan (not a bad thing, just more than what I wanted in the car I was looking for).

Didn't mind at all how it drove, granted it felt soft (2012) and compliant for road driving very similar to the Tiburon I owned once before. The FR-S can be a bit rougher, but I do like the way it feels as well.

I got the feeling that either one could be a fun car though, and I'm very happy with the FR-S.

While its a good car I don't think I'll call it amazing anytime soon. It's finished last or nearly last in almost every test Ive seen it in and all of the auto journalists that I trust think its good, but has some solid flaws, the transmission and weight being two that come to mind.

I love the Gen Coupe (especially the v6) but it's huge, and doesn't use the interior space well at all. It's a Korean mustang.

I definitely understand the use of interior space. I expected much more space out of a car that size. Even the Tiburon had a good use of trunk space and such...so it just seemed odd how they managed that given in the GC.

I didn't see anything wrong on that website. They love their Hyundai and are willing to defend it.

I'll do the same for my BRZ too but I stay open-minded. That is, whenever the hell it gets here :)

i sense more than a hint of jealousy

quite a bit of hatred on my local forums too. Everyone loved the car until it was released then it was a GC and mustang love fest.

TOP DOWN, TOP DOWN! SUMMER CAR!

Sorry, I had to.

GC looks more like a bigger version of FRS

The GC never even slightly interested me. I see it as a poor man's G37 Coupe. And, I dont like that side rear window that is lower than the door side window. Looks like a bad G37 copy.

Granted, Hyundai/Kia have made leaps and bounds in recent years, especially with the Sonata and Optima, but it isn't qite the right product for me.


About 2 years ago one of my cooworkers picked up a Genesis sedan with the tech package including the Lexicon stereo. What freaked me out is he was able to negotiate a lower lease payment compared to my 2008 Accord VL EX-L. Mind you this guy had a connection and he is the type that will fight for a penny. I pity his salesman.

As a community we should do our best to represent this car. Drive responsibly on the roads and drive enthusiastically on the track. I'm not a young guy and I didn't buy this car to try and be one. I bought this car because I love to drive and this car let's me.

That's funny. I'm on that forum too. I had plan to get a Gen Coupe 2.0T last year before the facelift. It's a nice car and what not but horrible dealers and too many issues turned me away. Like Nazarite said, at the end of the day it's a fkn Hyundai.

Oh so admitting to an accident and less than better-judgement is immature? Why not just be glad that the guy's ok instead of saying he's an idiot? Anyone in the right mind would know that the guy's feeling like shit already but some have to feel that they have the moral obligation to ridicule and put the person down even more.

Oh and hating on something just because people who review cars professionally likes it? How narrow-minded can you get?

IDK Koreans are probably making better quality cars for the money than the Japanese are now. That said I was just never that interested in one. It was too big and the interior felt very GM to me.

It's that 10-year/100k mile warranty.

apparently 10 yr warranty is getting folks in to buy

I like the hatred though tbh. I had someone with a jiffy lube uniform who drove a beat up NA impreza standing in line in front of me at the convience store yesterday. He gave the clerk a lecture about how underpowered my car was, that he wouldn't drive one and that smart people should wait until STI comes out with their turbo million hp version next year. Everyone has an opinion, especially in the car community.

It's not even the warranty for the car, 10y/100k is only for the powertrain. My last new car was a Mitsubishi which also had the 5 year 60k bumper to bumper and 10 year 100k powertrain and I can honestly say I won't buy another Mits regardless how much love I still have for the Evo. I would be crazily surprised if Huyndai service for the warranty is any better than Mits.

I know man. I was just being sarcastic because don't you wonder WHY Hyundai offers such a good powertrain warranty? Funny how cocky those guys can be when their brand is still remembered for making POS cars (yes I realize that Hyundai has made spectacular strides and are now making pretty good cars).

exactly my point, their boasting about best warranty is like Dell says they have customer service available at all time. ill shoot myself first before calling. i'm not saying Toyota/Scion shouldn't make their warranty longer but when it comes to warranty I'd rather take quality over quantity.

*took 5 seconds to relive horrifying Mits warranty claim experience*

*glance out the office windows at the FR-S lovingly*

I know man, I'm just a sucker for "This week's sign of the apocalypse..." Maybe a result of reading too many Sports Illustrated's? And it is a sign of how far they've come that these guys can even begin to think about having superiority complexes.

LOL. How about Subaru owners having a superiority complex over Scion?

Don't get me wrong, Subaru has always made excellent cars, but they have never, never been a show off, look-at-me, ultimate driving machine bullshit, kind of company. They just make excellent cars - a little different than everyone else.

Scion, in my opinion, has had a pretty similar philosophy. Their cars are high quality cars that are cheap, with innovative design and good engineering. I haven't always liked their offerings, but I they are not inferior.

The idea of waiting for the BRZ based on brand snobbery is mystifying.

There is always a car for a kind of underdog. A guy who gets something that doesn't have a lot of prestige in order to become its most loyal defender. Its like they want to be the underdog so they can fight for it and prove their undying devotion. Hyundai is still that kind of car, but it won't be for long. They are the Honda of the future.

by saying its just a fucking hyundai, we are not better than them with their hate comment.

Agreed. It is unbelieveably true where I live. I get a lot of snobby BRZ owners telling FRS owners to "BEAT THIS FRS.. HIDS!" and in my head, I am doing a giant facepalm because this is absolutely snobbish. Plus.. I can just buy HIDs here for $60... Please, just respect both cars. And in a much larger sense, have some respect as to where the car originates, you know?

i dont think they have any real "hate" towards the car, but more or less "hating" on the car. which has a different meaning nowadays. looks like they are just jealous or bias against the car saying stuff like its over hyped, and how the owners are young dudes who wont even use the car for its only purpose which is on the track :iono: ok well, how often are you gonna use that 270+ hp big body with lots of roll in your car? GC is gonna give the new v6 stangs a run for their money. nothing to brag about. if youre not first, your last. whats the point of getting a car that is suppose to be fast if its still at the bottom of the list. might as well get a car that is enjoyable, and fun to drive. with that being said, i dont think the GC is a bad car, and i think it looks pretty cool from the side. i wouldnt go bashing on other cars if i owned on though.

This would anger me, i would take it as an insult. immediately go on the offensive and start bashing on his car. he is entitled to his opinion, but if its not something nice then he should learn to keep it to himself. some people dont want wait 2yrs+ or pay the extra money for the sti. some people like NA, or need a car sooner than later. He probably COULDNT drive one if he wanted, and if he were smart he would know that the chances of the sti coming out next year is probably slim. i hate people :mad0260: also, you should have just said this to him. [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aN6rjLcpBnI"]Turd Ferguson - That's your opinion - YouTube[/ame]

I love how some of them make it sound like the FR-S is a cheap car, and the Genesis Coupe is this exclusive, expensive sports car. A couple grand doesn't mean shit when you are already spending $25k on a new car, they need to get their head out of their ass.

I still don't understand how someone can call themselves an "car enthusiast" and then be completely bias against all car brands except the one they drive. You are not a car enthusiast, you are a (insert car brand here) enthusiast.

its funny cause I always thought that if any other car owner would get us it would be the GC guys.

A sports car from a brand that isn't know for them

Underpowered (1st gen)

Cheap


Everyone gets soo defensive when a new car comes out. We all buy what we want and its all good

The Gen coupe is too damn big and too damn heavy, and it don't look sexy at all.

This is ass-backwards thinking. Why do you think in such a narrow minded fashion? At the end of the day, you're driving a Toyota... At the end of the day someone driving a Bugatti is telling a Gallardo owner that hes just driving a entry-level Lambo. The only difference between us (car enthusiasts) and ignorant bimbos is that fact that we appreciate cars for what they are and can look PAST the badge. Once we stop doing that we may as well start civil war here on this forum since BRZ owners have the better badge right? :iono: