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JW89225 07-29-2012 11:08 PM

HID Plug 'n Play Kit
 
Just got my headlights retrofit with my plug-n-play HID 6000K. Install was pretty straight forward and clean, no messy wiring under the hood. It comes with a slim ballast.

Stock on left, 6000K on the right.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...38245660_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...23010621_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...29138670_n.jpg

Let me know if anyone is interested, i believe the kits are around $75.

encity5 07-29-2012 11:18 PM

This was with morimotos retrofit kit from the retrofit source ?

MmmHamSandwich 07-29-2012 11:19 PM

Take note everyone, last picture tells you everything you need to know about PnP kits.

*Insert sigh here*

This and blacked out tails are going to be a plague for this car, I can feel it already.

MmmHamSandwich 07-29-2012 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by encity5 (Post 346560)
This was with morimotos retrofit kit from the retrofit source ?

Hell no. That cutoff is turds. The TRS kit is a legitimate retrofit with projector swap. This is just a bulb swap, not a true retrofit.

encity5 07-29-2012 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MmmHamSandwich (Post 346562)
Hell no. That cutoff is turds. The TRS kit is a legitimate retrofit with projector swap. This is just a bulb swap, not a true retrofit.

Which is why I was confused with "retrofit plug n play"

MmmHamSandwich 07-29-2012 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by encity5 (Post 346566)
Which is why I was confused with "retrofit plug n play"

Yeah, you have your terminology correct. While the morimoto kit may not be plug n play, it is a direct bolt in. If I get an FR-S instead of a BRZ I'll be buying the TRS kit no questions. The intro price would have been nice, but a standard retro will cost you $300 in labor alone and the install won't be as clean as a direct bolt in. I'm stoked for Scion owners to have the option.

tonystewart 07-30-2012 12:17 AM

Halogen Projectors with HID 4300K Kit, squirrel finders bent down hard:thumbdown:
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c...531_102115.jpg
TRS Morimoto's with 4300K Kit:thumbsup:
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c...721_181931.jpg
The difference is dramatic, no glare,
and the high beams are amazing, high beams on below:thumbup:
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c...721_181948.jpg
After aiming the retrofitsource kit the difference really stood out on a very dark straight 2 lane road, the road was clearly lit up and yet the opposing lane was dark, you can actually see the cut off line for the opposing lane. My apologies for the poor quality pictures.

Khyron686 07-30-2012 12:25 AM

Not retrofit, cheap ghetto drop in kit. Mod can change title.

Style 07-30-2012 12:53 AM

why is there soooo much hate towards PnP HID kits?

KO7 07-30-2012 12:59 AM

Because the glare blinds oncoming people. Do it right with retrofits or don't do it at all.

styl3z 07-30-2012 01:02 AM

Sorry, I'm a noob when it comes to HIDs, but won't the retrofit blind oncoming as well since HIDs are brighter no matter if its PnP or retrofitted?

RidetheTran 07-30-2012 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by KO7 (Post 346737)
Because the glare blinds oncoming people. Do it right with retrofits or don't do it at all.


you beat me too it, I dont get why this is such a hard concept to grasp...lets take a moment of silence for those that are currently being blinded by pnp kits

RidetheTran 07-30-2012 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by styl3z (Post 346741)
Sorry, I'm a noob when it comes to HIDs, but won't the retrofit blind oncoming as well since HIDs are brighter no matter if its PnP or retrofitted?

If you look at the first pic by OP, you can see the glare above the cut off line. In a real retrofit, there wouldn't be this glare that goes in the drivers faces. The retrofit gives the light a clean cut off.

If you ever drive behind a car that comes with stock HID's, yes it'll be brighter than cars that don't come with projectors. But hell, it's not as bad as driving behind someone with projectors running HID's, you'll feel like you're staring straight into a flashlight.

Style 07-30-2012 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by RidetheTran (Post 346747)
If you look at the first pic by OP, you can see the glare above the cut off line. In a real retrofit, there wouldn't be this glare that goes in the drivers faces. The retrofit gives the light a clean cut off.

If you ever drive behind a car that comes with stock HID's, yes it'll be brighter than cars that don't come with projectors. But hell, it's not as bad as driving behind someone with projectors running HID's, you'll feel like you're staring straight into a flashlight.

So the glare is what is hitting the floor in OPs first pic right? Other than that, they only real difference that I see is the color. What about this squirrel mod that people are doing? Doesn't that fix the problem?

RidetheTran 07-30-2012 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Style (Post 346797)
So the glare is what is hitting the floor in OPs first pic right? Other than that, they only real difference that I see is the color. What about this squirrel mod that people are doing? Doesn't that fix the problem?

No the glare are those squares above the cut off line. Its actually the opposite of what is hitting the floor or it wouldn't be a problem.

Look at the difference between picture one on post # 1 (the OP's post) and the 2nd picture on post #7. Notice how that square above the cut off line is gone on post #7, that square is what blinds on coming drivers and people you drive behind. There is no glare coming off that car because he did a retrofit with legit HID projectors.

Moshpit37 07-30-2012 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Style (Post 346722)
why is there soooo much hate towards PnP HID kits?

Because they suck and are dangerous, blinding the oncoming drivers. They might look good from the drivers seat, but everyone coming at you is pissed off.

Style 07-30-2012 02:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RidetheTran (Post 346873)
No the glare are those squares above the cut off line. Its actually the opposite of what is hitting the floor or it wouldn't be a problem.

Look at the difference between picture one on post # 1 (the OP's post) and the 2nd picture on post #7. Notice how that square above the cut off line is gone on post #7, that square is what blinds on coming drivers and people you drive behind. There is no glare coming off that car because he did a retrofit with legit HID projectors.

Compare pic 1 in OPs pic, both of the lights. Does that mean the stock ones blind people as well or no because they are yellow?

RidetheTran 07-30-2012 02:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Style (Post 346902)
Compare pic 1 in OPs pic, both of the lights. Does that mean the stock ones blind people as well or no because they are yellow?


Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe that little glare is for lighting up street signs. Stock cars with projectors have these, and they do sometimes give a glaring effect to other drivers but it's tolerable. With PnP sets, the glare is intensified and are very annoying to any onlookers. Non HID Projectors are bad enough, but if you ever see cars with non projector headlights run HID's, you'll have a sudden urge to high beam them.

BTW

Sorry for the thread jack OP

tonystewart 07-30-2012 10:15 AM

Halogen uses filament, possible to shape light, fixed shape, etc
Xenon uses gas, requires a reflector to shape the light, halogen projector shape is inadequate to shape the xenon gas bulb light discharge

Khyron686 07-30-2012 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Style (Post 346722)
why is there soooo much hate towards PnP HID kits?

Why is there so much hate for people that drive around with their highbeams on all the time? It's convenient for them, right? :iono:

The optics of a halogen projector are different than a xenon projector. However, while ghetto and cheap, it's still not as bad as slapping a xenon drop-in into a reflector housing (curse all older f-150s in my general area).

The good news is you may get towed/impounded rather than just a ticket as cops are getting more and more annoyed as well.

srt4_night_rider 07-30-2012 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Khyron686 (Post 347475)
The good news is you may get towed/impounded rather than just a ticket as cops are getting more and more annoyed as well.

Have people never heard the saying if you don't have anything nice to say don't say anything at all! Ok he was a little mixed up on the fact that it was not a retrofit, and has been corrected on it. If he likes his headlights that's all that matters its his car he can do with it as he pleases. People on this forum need to realize that saying things like "good news is you may get towed" is not helping this forum grow its going to scare people off.

Khyron686 07-30-2012 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by srt4_night_rider (Post 348103)
Have people never heard the saying if you don't have anything nice to say don't say anything at all! Ok he was a little mixed up on the fact that it was not a retrofit, and has been corrected on it. If he likes his headlights that's all that matters its his car he can do with it as he pleases. People on this forum need to realize that saying things like "good news is you may get towed" is not helping this forum grow its going to scare people off.

No, it needs to be clear that doing a drop-in is worse than the 90's boys bolting a park bench to their trunk - it's not cool, it's not acceptable - do it if you want but expect to be laughed at.

And unlike the park bench on your trunk or ugly stickers, being pulled over with a retarded kit means your car is not roadworthy and thus you may not be allowed to drive away.

Same as the blue LED lights on the washer nozzles - all fun, until you get a felony ticket for impersonating a police vehicle.

Moshpit37 07-30-2012 11:08 PM

If we can discourage even one person from being a danger to others on the road, then I count that as a win.

ngabdala 07-31-2012 12:15 AM

Ugh, "HID" kits. Leaky, overwhelming lighting, misaligned, and still not as bright as a car made for HIDs. There is nothing clean and crisp about that.

Synack 07-31-2012 01:17 AM

I'm no master at HIDs but our car is already low and when I lower it even more and fix the squirrel issue other cars on the road should have no issue with my PnP HIDs.

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