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RandomHero 07-29-2012 07:28 PM

HELP! Stone chip!
 
Hey guys got a stone chip about a week ago? Ordered a paint pen immediately. Got it today, looked at the paint chip and there are 2 fine spots of rust!!:cry:
Can I still use a paint pen? do i need to sand now? Is there any solvents i should use? Please help! Thanks in advance!

Gen 07-29-2012 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by RandomHero (Post 346283)
Hey guys got a stone chip about a week ago? Ordered a paint pen immediately. Got it today, looked at the paint chip and there are 2 fine spots of rust!!:cry:
Can I still use a paint pen? do i need to sand now? Is there any solvents i should use? Please help! Thanks in advance!

I wouldn't even bother with the paint pen, to be honest. 95% of the time it looks worse than the chip. You'll get more, I promise...

You could do what the cool kids do and bust out a sharpie.

RandomHero 07-29-2012 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Gen (Post 346291)
I wouldn't even bother with the paint pen, to be honest. 95% of the time it looks worse than the chip. You'll get more, I promise...

You could do what the cool kids do and bust out a sharpie.

But the chip has gone to the metal obviously, wont the rust get worse? There is no way im using a sharpie on this car. I intended to sand the paint pen with 1500 and 2000 grit sand paper and the cut it in with a nice polish but I dont know how to prep such a small area with rust

20valvewynn83 07-29-2012 07:40 PM

whats the location of the chip

RandomHero 07-29-2012 07:44 PM

On the roof above the windshield

RandomHero 07-29-2012 07:50 PM

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Pics. Sorry if they are a little blurry, iPhone doesnt have macro mode.

C. Charles Hahn 07-29-2012 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by RandomHero (Post 346296)
But the chip has gone to the metal obviously, wont the rust get worse? There is no way im using a sharpie on this car. I intended to sand the paint pen with 1500 and 2000 grit sand paper and the cut it in with a nice polish but I dont know how to prep such a small area with rust

For an area as small as a chip, what I use is a small pick like they use when you go to the dentist. It allows me to "scrape" the rust away and access clean metal without enlarging the chip or otherwise causing damage to the surrounding area.

Really, anything small and sharp like that should work. Even a safety pin or bulletin board push pin if you're careful.

Gen 07-29-2012 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by RandomHero (Post 346296)
But the chip has gone to the metal obviously, wont the rust get worse? There is no way im using a sharpie on this car. I intended to sand the paint pen with 1500 and 2000 grit sand paper and the cut it in with a nice polish but I dont know how to prep such a small area with rust

Ah sorry, missed the part about the rust. That changes things.

RandomHero 07-29-2012 08:36 PM

Ok I think power fist makes a "Dentist Pick Kit" I'll check out NAPA tomorrow. Poor FRS :( i wish this hadnt happened so soon!

picus 07-29-2012 09:50 PM

Hey - you're in Ontario so this should help.

Head over to Canadian Tire, go to the automotive paint section and get some "rust converter". They will have an aerosol and a ~8oz liquid. Get the liquid. Put a little of the liquid on a microfiber (wear gloves if you're concerned about your manicure. :D) and dab it on the chips liberally. Do this out of sunlight (you want the paint cold). Wait ~10 min then check the rust. It should be grey, the rust converter will have turned it to primer. If it isn't; re-apply. When it is fully grey, apply touch up *lightly*.

If you need help with the actual aesthetic of the touchup let me know. The rust converter will take care of any rust concerns. If you're losing your mind over it you can lightly sand the rust ahead of time (put alittle 2k grit on the tip of a pencil) and apply primer; but the rust converter should take care of it.

RandomHero 07-29-2012 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by picus (Post 346518)
Hey - you're in Ontario so this should help.

Head over to Canadian Tire, go to the automotive paint section and get some "rust converter". They will have an aerosol and a ~8oz liquid. Get the liquid. Put a little of the liquid on a microfiber (wear gloves if you're concerned about your manicure. :D) and dab it on the chips liberally. Do this out of sunlight (you want the paint cold). Wait ~10 min then check the rust. It should be grey, the rust converter will have turned it to primer. If it isn't; re-apply. When it is fully grey, apply touch up *lightly*.

If you need help with the actual aesthetic of the touchup let me know. The rust converter will take care of any rust concerns. If you're losing your mind over it you can lightly sand the rust ahead of time (put alittle 2k grit on the tip of a pencil) and apply primer; but the rust converter should take care of it.


Thanks ill give that a shot! From what ive gathered from google. I might scratch at this with a pick or a little sand paper, apply the rust converter u recommended, prep it, primer pen it, paint pen it, sand lightly, clear pen it, sand lightly, polish. I want it to be as invisible as possible as I have an opticoat appointment booked on the 10th!

Hamza7 07-29-2012 11:29 PM

If your near Markham, I have a extra dentist pick I got in a 4 pack. Their also great for cleaning interior LOL. I would also NOT recommend sanding a spot so close to the edge. Paint on the edge of a panel like that is typically very very thin so sanding it could raise the potential to go through the clear of the "rest" of the area. I also have a 1mm disposable paint brushes that are ideal for laying down even, precise coats of paint. Way better then paint pens, personally I recommend paint pots.

But anyways come by if you want to grab the stuff, I have extra I'm not going to use this year anyways.

rcm47 07-29-2012 11:35 PM

How much is a paint pen? Can I just go to a Subaru dealership and purchase one?

C. Charles Hahn 07-30-2012 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Hamza7 (Post 346680)
If your near Markham, I have a extra dentist pick I got in a 4 pack. Their also great for cleaning interior LOL. I would also NOT recommend sanding a spot so close to the edge. Paint on the edge of a panel like that is typically very very thin so sanding it could raise the potential to go through the clear of the "rest" of the area. I also have a 1mm disposable paint brushes that are ideal for laying down even, precise coats of paint. Way better then paint pens, personally I recommend paint pots.

But anyways come by if you want to grab the stuff, I have extra I'm not going to use this year anyways.

Agreed. What I usually use to apply touch-up is one of these:

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RRnold 07-30-2012 01:00 AM

As poorly painted these cars are, it really sucks to see all of these detail threads. It almost seems like a wasted effort since rock chips and thin paint are common on these cars. :/

DaJo 07-30-2012 01:03 AM

Damn...sorry to hear man. I'd cry if this happened to me so soon too. Chips even happen on our roofs eh?? Seems like you would need to really Clear-bra the whole car! lol...

Do you drive really close up behind cars and trucks at highway speeds?
I have driven a couple of my cars that are about the same ride height as the FR-S/BRZ if not lower...and never have I had a serious stone chip. Just keep your distance!

picus 07-30-2012 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by RandomHero (Post 346650)
Thanks ill give that a shot! From what ive gathered from google. I might scratch at this with a pick or a little sand paper, apply the rust converter u recommended, prep it, primer pen it, paint pen it, sand lightly, clear pen it, sand lightly, polish. I want it to be as invisible as possible as I have an opticoat appointment booked on the 10th!

Unless you're really comfortable sanding I'd avoid it. Perhaps your detailer could do it for you when you have OC applied. It's going to be tricky on an edge like that; you may just be better off applying very thin layers of touch up until you're happy with his flush it is.

RandomHero 08-03-2012 09:12 AM

Update on the paint chip guys: I picked, primed, sanded, painted, and cleared. looks better. its noticeable but not terrible. I'll post up pics later so u guys can see. Oh and wouldnt you know when i got out of my car at canadian tire my jeans touched the edge of the door and took off paint right on the edge!!! F**KING SUBARU PAINT SHOP!!!! :paddle:

RandomHero 08-03-2012 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Hamza7 (Post 346680)
If your near Markham, I have a extra dentist pick I got in a 4 pack. Their also great for cleaning interior LOL. I would also NOT recommend sanding a spot so close to the edge. Paint on the edge of a panel like that is typically very very thin so sanding it could raise the potential to go through the clear of the "rest" of the area. I also have a 1mm disposable paint brushes that are ideal for laying down even, precise coats of paint. Way better then paint pens, personally I recommend paint pots.

But anyways come by if you want to grab the stuff, I have extra I'm not going to use this year anyways.

Thanks for that offer Hamza! unfortunatley i live about 40mins west of the tri-cities area. Markham is quite a hike! My gfs dad actually had a set in the garage that i borrowed. What a tough spot to touch up though!

wbradley 08-03-2012 09:32 AM

Dont freak over the first paint chip! I'd wait awhile so you can fix several at the same time. The hood and the frontal area of the front fenders seems to get it the most. I figure I must have at least 10 chips already. Driving on the 407 every day to and from work is the cause.

And, STAY AWAY FROM DUMP/GRAVEL TRUCKS!!


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