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Krewcial5050 11-10-2018 03:13 AM

"New to cars" What headers n front pipe should i get?
 
Hi,

I'm new to car seen and i just got a 2015 Scion FR-S Release 1.0. I want to get a headers and front pipe and i did my assignment(researched) about them. I kinda digging the Tomei UEL Headers and the HKS Dual Resonated front pipe with my TRD Quad Tip Cat-back Exhaust. What y'all think? Also do i need to tune it?

Thanks,
Krewcial

strat61caster 11-10-2018 03:22 AM

Great! Grab a tune while you're at it or you'll get a check engine light and be leaving some power on the table.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29340

Spuds 11-10-2018 05:53 AM

Might as well get an over pipe while you are at it? It goes between the header and front pipe.

Krewcial5050 11-10-2018 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Spuds (Post 3153828)
Might as well get an over pipe while you are at it? It goes between the header and front pipe.

Any suggestion on the over pipe for FR-S Release 1.0 (Brand/Quality/Overall performance)?

Krewcial5050 11-10-2018 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strat61caster (Post 3153819)
Great! Grab a tune while you're at it or you'll get a check engine light and be leaving some power on the table.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29340

Okay... on the tuning side. That i don't know what to do. I do not have knowledge. Please enlighten me! LOL.

DarkPira7e 11-10-2018 02:26 PM

Congratulations on the buy! Any pictures yet? For what it's worth, aside your catback section, the rest of the exhaust fits identically; so when searching for parts, you can interchange BRZ/FRS and not look for the release model specifically.

For tuning, it may be easiest to buy an open flash tablet. Plug it in, flash the map, drive. Lets you monitor data in real time and there are tuners who can give you custom maps for whatever you do in the future

carsebuco 11-10-2018 02:40 PM

Boi, enjoy the car first. Headers won't give you magical powers to pass the minivans bullying you

Somerandom18 11-10-2018 03:04 PM

Match the Tomei header with their overpipe
Quote:

Originally Posted by Krewcial5050 (Post 3153887)
Any suggestion on the over pipe for FR-S Release 1.0 (Brand/Quality/Overall performance)?

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Krewcial5050 11-10-2018 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkPira7e (Post 3153889)
Congratulations on the buy! Any pictures yet? For what it's worth, aside your catback section, the rest of the exhaust fits identically; so when searching for parts, you can interchange BRZ/FRS and not look for the release model specifically.

For tuning, it may be easiest to buy an open flash tablet. Plug it in, flash the map, drive. Lets you monitor data in real time and there are tuners who can give you custom maps for whatever you do in the future

What's the difference between OFT and Ecutek (pro's and con's). Pics below.

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Krewcial5050 11-10-2018 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Somerandom18 (Post 3153895)
Match the Tomei header with their overpipe

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Even though i'm getting a HKS dual resonator front pipe? I want get the best sound quality and performance. If you have done that mod and give me some insight that would be helpful.

Krewcial5050 11-10-2018 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by carsebuco (Post 3153890)
Boi, enjoy the car first. Headers won't give you magical powers to pass the minivans bullying you

i'm enjoying the car already just want to have a aggressive tone and performance on my car not really about street race and yeah,

If you dont have "heart". Anybody can pass you on the street. IMO

weederr33 11-10-2018 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Krewcial5050 (Post 3153900)
i'm enjoying the car already just want to have a aggressive tone and performance on my car not really about street race and yeah,

If you dont have "heart". Anybody can pass you on the street. IMO

I say go with the Tomei and their overpipe if you like them. But also maybe consider the OpenFlash tablet to take advantage of the tune so you won't be running lean.

SuperTom 11-10-2018 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krewcial5050 (Post 3153817)
Hi,

I'm new to car seen and i just got a 2015 Scion FR-S Release 1.0. I want to get a headers and front pipe and i did my assignment(researched) about them. I kinda digging the Tomei UEL Headers and the HKS Dual Resonated front pipe with my TRD Quad Tip Cat-back Exhaust. What y'all think? Also do i need to tune it?

Thanks,
Krewcial



These are good pieces on the back end. You can get Gruppe-S uel with overpipe for the price of the Tomei (basically same design and quality). Whatever you choose stock over pipe is tiny so getting one is a must. I had HKS Dual Resonated FP with HKS legamax, sound was great


If money is a concern I would get the OFT as others have said in place of the trd catback. OFT and UEL will bring the car alive

steve99 11-10-2018 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krewcial5050 (Post 3153817)
Hi,

I'm new to car seen and i just got a 2015 Scion FR-S Release 1.0. I want to get a headers and front pipe and i did my assignment(researched) about them. I kinda digging the Tomei UEL Headers and the HKS Dual Resonated front pipe with my TRD Quad Tip Cat-back Exhaust. What y'all think? Also do i need to tune it?

Thanks,
Krewcial

For basic hardware mods like headers see here
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=81493




For info on different tune systems see here
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=106068

Krewcial5050 11-10-2018 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperTom (Post 3153919)
These are good pieces on the back end. You can get Gruppe-S uel with overpipe for the price of the Tomei (basically same design and quality). Whatever you choose stock over pipe is tiny so getting one is a must. I had HKS Dual Resonated FP with HKS legamax, sound was great


If money is a concern I would get the OFT as others have said in place of the trd catback. OFT and UEL will bring the car alive

Deng..... I've read the thread and all the feedback are positive or beyond. I might switch to Gruppe-S UEL. Need to do more research and watching youtube vidoes. Thanks for the suggestion!

kch 11-12-2018 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krewcial5050 (Post 3153817)
Hi,

I'm new to car seen and i just got a 2015 Scion FR-S Release 1.0. I want to get a headers and front pipe and i did my assignment(researched) about them. I kinda digging the Tomei UEL Headers and the HKS Dual Resonated front pipe with my TRD Quad Tip Cat-back Exhaust. What y'all think? Also do i need to tune it?

Thanks,
Krewcial

I have personally seen several HKS dual-resonated pipes crack at the welds. I would avoid. Look into JDL--better quality, made in the USA, and lifetime warranty to the original owner.

Edit: also, I would suggest keeping a cat in the FP. I was catless for a while and my car stank like woah. Hated it.

SuperTom 11-12-2018 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kch (Post 3154301)
I have personally seen several HKS dual-resonated pipes crack at the welds. I would avoid. Look into JDL--better quality, made in the USA, and lifetime warranty to the original owner.

Edit: also, I would suggest keeping a cat in the FP. I was catless for a while and my car stank like woah. Hated it.



Didn't have any cracks in mine but yeah with no cat at all I was getting bad smell. Went with a hooker headers catted/ Helmholtz resonated FP. Still flows great and keeps the sound/smell down

gpvecchi 11-12-2018 06:06 PM

I can't find the hooker FP, any link plz?

carsebuco 11-12-2018 07:32 PM

I dunno man, I find that E85 smell from 2 fewer cats are better than caffeine in the early morning... It'd be boring to be that loud without the smell.

Krewcial5050 11-20-2018 04:23 PM

Gruppe-s UEL,OP and Heat shield it is. Pre ordered from @Gruppe-s

SuperTom 11-20-2018 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Krewcial5050 (Post 3156876)
Gruppe-s UEL,OP and Heat shield it is. Pre ordered from @Gruppe-s



Great Choice , now u just need a used OFT and your good to go!

Krewcial5050 11-20-2018 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperTom (Post 3156904)
Great Choice , now u just need a used OFT and your good to go!

OFT or EcuTek? I heard you can do a lot on EcuTek.

Spuds 11-21-2018 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krewcial5050 (Post 3157005)
OFT or EcuTek? I heard you can do a lot on EcuTek.

OFT is the quickest, easiest, least expensive, and proven way to make your car work right with the headers. For you, I'd recommend OFT unless you can't find YouTube and this forum for instructions and help.

That being said, if you have money to burn and see forced induction in your future, a tuner can get you set up with ecutek fairly easily which CAN have more features, and supports FI.

Check out the software tuning section. There's a few threads on the subject of comparing them. For reference, I use an OFT.

SuperTom 11-21-2018 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krewcial5050 (Post 3157005)
OFT or EcuTek? I heard you can do a lot on EcuTek.



What Spuds said.


OFT for basic UEL headers
EcuTek for specialty headers like ACE or Nameless


Ive had both setups. Gruppe-s with OFT is very good, going to ACE/Ecutek is another step up but not a huge increase like going FI

86MLR 11-21-2018 07:55 PM

The main thing with Ecutek is insuring you have a capable tuner, just because someone says they are a "master tuner" doesn't mean jack squat.

Look in, around and out of your area for shops that specializes in motorsports and the twins.

I've travel 1k km to the tuner of my choice.

The tune is the single most important modification of your car, it can make your car much better, a little better, or end in engine failure.

For me, the only viable option is either Ecutek or a stand alone, and tuned on a dyno, even NA with some breathing mods.

The Ecutek option is more expensive but I believe, with a good tuner, is the best option for a street car (my 2015 STI was tuned with Ecutek).

Plus one of the additional features is a big bonus for me, rev match, I cannot heel/toe my 86 for shit, you can keep launch control and FFS.

Research research research.

Like with everything, opinions will vary.


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