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ParangWala 07-28-2012 08:15 PM

CNET reviews FR-S
 
Wasn't sure if anyone posted this up yet or if anyone cares about CNET but none the less news is news and here it is.

http://reviews.cnet.com/coupe-hatchb...-35370104.html

Lonewolf 07-28-2012 08:54 PM

The reviewer is a moron...see this quote:

"The car is at its best in a set of tight turns. Track day hopefuls will quickly wish they had bought an M3."

Really? Well if I could afford to track an M3 with it's uber expensive replacement tires and brakes, I don't think I would be cross-shopping this car...:slap:

***Not too mention the M3 is much heavier (albeit much more powerful) and offers a different driving experience altogether.

Besides, the M3 is what 60-65K...yeah, it should be better for that cost...:rolleyes:

Raven86 07-28-2012 08:57 PM

"Track day hopefuls will quickly wish they had bought an M3."

lol i like how he leaves out the fact that an m3 is more than double the price.

just86 07-28-2012 09:06 PM

cnet sucks

Texas BRZ 07-28-2012 10:42 PM

Thanks for sharing, OP.

One thing I like about the reviewer is that he's naturally critical of the car he reviews... Maybe not the most positive personality, and not someone who we'd want to agree with completely... But helps us view a different perspective, I suppose.

lupehoops26 07-28-2012 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lonewolf (Post 344888)
The reviewer is a moron...see this quote:

"The car is at its best in a set of tight turns. Track day hopefuls will quickly wish they had bought an M3."

Really? Well if I could afford to track an M3 with it's uber expensive replacement tires and brakes, I don't think I would be cross-shopping this car...:slap:

***Not too mention the M3 is much heavier (albeit much more powerful) and offers a different driving experience altogether.

Besides, the M3 is what 60-65K...yeah, it should be better for that cost...:rolleyes:

only on the edit:intewebs will someone pick out 1 silly comment to gripe about. Let's not forget the summary:

Stars: 4/5
- Comfort: 6.0/10
- Performance: 8.0/10
- Design: 7.0/10

The good: The 2013 Scion FR-S handles beautifully, with extremely well-tuned suspension and steering gear. Digital audio sources include HD Radio, Bluetooth streaming, iPod, and USB drive.
The bad: Low torque leads to mild starts and not much thrust out of a turn. The available Bespoke head unit only integrates apps and navigation with the iPhone 4 or better.
The bottom line: The 2013 Scion FR-S is a fun sports car, excellent in the turns but lacking big thrust, while the cabin tech upgrade looks intriguing for iPhone users.

Also remember that CNET reviews everything from a technology perspective, thus why the good, bad AND summary include significant mention of mobile/audio integration.

Blue86 07-28-2012 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lonewolf (Post 344888)
The reviewer is a moron...see this quote:

"The car is at its best in a set of tight turns. Track day hopefuls will quickly wish they had bought an M3."

Really? Well if I could afford to track an M3 with it's uber expensive replacement tires and brakes, I don't think I would be cross-shopping this car...:slap:

***Not too mention the M3 is much heavier (albeit much more powerful) and offers a different driving experience altogether.

Besides, the M3 is what 60-65K...yeah, it should be better for that cost...:rolleyes:

If an M3 cost that much here I probably would have bought one. They are about $150K on road over here

:-(

Lonewolf 07-29-2012 03:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lupehoops26 (Post 345046)
only on this forum will someone pick out 1 silly comment to gripe about. Let's not forget the summary:

Stars: 4/5
- Comfort: 6.0/10
- Performance: 8.0/10
- Design: 7.0/10

The good: The 2013 Scion FR-S handles beautifully, with extremely well-tuned suspension and steering gear. Digital audio sources include HD Radio, Bluetooth streaming, iPod, and USB drive.
The bad: Low torque leads to mild starts and not much thrust out of a turn. The available Bespoke head unit only integrates apps and navigation with the iPhone 4 or better.
The bottom line: The 2013 Scion FR-S is a fun sports car, excellent in the turns but lacking big thrust, while the cabin tech upgrade looks intriguing for iPhone users.

Also remember that CNET reviews everything from a technology perspective, thus why the good, bad AND summary include significant mention of mobile/audio integration.

"Only on this forum"...you haven't been on the internet long have you?

Go back to the perfect little rational communities you inhabited before...you know, the ones under the bridge.

I agree, the comment is silly, and that's why I trashed it.

ngabdala 07-29-2012 06:08 AM

I agree. The OP should check out the MS3 and Evo forums. They will destroy you if you are a new member.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lonewolf (Post 345364)
"Only on this forum"...you haven't been on the internet long have you?

Go back to the perfect little rational communities you inhabited before...you know, the ones under the bridge.

I agree, the comment is silly, and that's why I trashed it.


kduff85 07-29-2012 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ngabdala (Post 345497)
I agree. The OP should check out the MS3 and Evo forums. They will destroy you if you are a new member.

Ive been apart of the Evo community for almost 2 years and I still hesitate to ask questions :bellyroll: there are some not nice people haha

patchulaz 07-29-2012 11:23 AM

I love this quote: "Scion offers the FR-S with a six-speed automatic, but there is a special place in hell for people who choose that option." baahahaha

rice_classic 07-29-2012 11:46 AM

The MOST important question to ask is:

WTF is CNET doing reviewing cars??!! Get back to reviewing video cards and anti-virus software please!

ngabdala 07-29-2012 11:54 AM

Lol yeah. Awhile back I joined needing some info on a Evo X and another time for an Evo IX and they destroyed me and calling me a troll too :mad0260:


Quote:

Originally Posted by kduff85 (Post 345653)
Ive been apart of the Evo community for almost 2 years and I still hesitate to ask questions :bellyroll: there are some not nice people haha


kduff85 07-29-2012 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ngabdala (Post 345735)
Lol yeah. Awhile back I joined needing some info on a Evo X and another time for an Evo IX and they destroyed me and calling me a troll too :mad0260:

Yeah which is a shame, I'm all for expanding the community. But we own Evo's so we are better than anyone who doesn't right? :bonk:

+1 to cnet not doing car reviews. tech please :)

moniz 07-29-2012 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rice_classic (Post 345724)
The MOST important question to ask is:

WTF is CNET doing reviewing cars??!! Get back to reviewing video cards and anti-virus software please!

You do know that CNET has been owned by CBS/Viacom for about 4 years now? Guess its there way of broadening they're reach per their parent company/owner.

rice_classic 07-29-2012 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moniz (Post 345954)
You do know that CNET has been owned by CBS/Viacom for about 4 years now? Guess its there way of broadening they're reach per their parent company/owner.

So let me rephrase this.

WTF is CBS and VIACOM doing reviewing sports cars and why do we care!?

(rhetorical)

Hix 07-29-2012 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lonewolf (Post 344888)
The reviewer is a moron...see this quote:

"The car is at its best in a set of tight turns. Track day hopefuls will quickly wish they had bought an M3."

Really? Well if I could afford to track an M3 with it's uber expensive replacement tires and brakes, I don't think I would be cross-shopping this car...:slap:

***Not too mention the M3 is much heavier (albeit much more powerful) and offers a different driving experience altogether.

Besides, the M3 is what 60-65K...yeah, it should be better for that cost...:rolleyes:

I actually came from a E92 M3 and this car is not as comfortable (magnetic ride is a thing of beauty not to mention the extended Novillo leather) but it handles every bit as well if not a tad bit better on stability. That being said my M3 cost 75,000 bucks new... I think just the mods I put on the car equaled the over all price of this car. Not fair to compare the two.

fatoni 07-29-2012 03:48 PM

i dont think that comment was to compare them but just to remind people that the frs isnt a supercar. you are still going to fantasize about whatever cars you had posters of on your wall as a kid. with all this frs vs porsche or z kind of thing going on, i think its important to remind people that

ParangWala 07-29-2012 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ngabdala (Post 345497)
I agree. The OP should check out the MS3 and Evo forums. They will destroy you if you are a new member.

EH?! The intent was just to share content nothing more and nothing less.

Dadhawk 07-29-2012 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patchulaz (Post 345705)
I love this quote: "Scion offers the FR-S with a six-speed automatic, but there is a special place in hell for people who choose that option." baahahaha

I'm guessing the reviewer did not drive the 6AT, in which case he had no place commenting on it. There's a special place for folks like that as well.

Bonburner 07-29-2012 03:56 PM

Where the hell did he get that second bag at 3:30 or so O.o;
I don't have that haha

Dadhawk 07-29-2012 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bonburner (Post 346046)
Where the hell did he get that second bag at 3:30 or so O.o;
I don't have that haha

yea, I haven't found that one yet either.

He had some complaints I agree with (the speedo, some road noise, for example). Can't believe he recommended the BeSpoke though.

Someone really needs to sit him down, make him listen to his presentation style a few times so he comes to realize his Columbia School of Broadcasting Morning Rock DJ voice needs to be toned down a little. Just saying....

ashtray 07-29-2012 07:39 PM

Owners of an M3 will be disappointed when they hit the track and wish they bought a Ferrari instead. :p

3x FRS = 1 M3
3x M3 = 1 California

reeves 07-29-2012 10:27 PM

In the video, he says "The clutch effort and take-up is just about perfect... it's about as good as that in a 911."

Is this true? For the few out there who's had the opportunity to drive a stock 911, I'd be interested on their take with this comparison. I've heard alot of people complain that the clutch felt too "soft"? Personally, that's how I like my clutch feel, but I guess everyone's preference is different.

Bonburner 07-29-2012 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reeves (Post 346575)
In the video, he says "The clutch effort and take-up is just about perfect... it's about as good as that in a 911."

Is this true? For the few out there who's had the opportunity to drive a stock 911, I'd be interested on their take with this comparison. I've heard alot of people complain that the clutch felt too "soft"? Personally, that's how I like my clutch feel, but I guess everyone's preference is different.

Yeah, I'd like to hear what other people have to say if they've ever driven a 911 for a long time.
I personally hate the clutch and had to readjust the clutch positioning .. and too soft/light :/


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